Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Hi, I vary between 2-3 constantly. So far, my blood tests have been fine. So I will continue to strive to get them all down every day. Weekends or days when my routine is interrupted are the hardest. aW -- Re: Vitamins Does anyone else have a problem getting all 3 vitamins in? The best I have been able to do so far is 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 > i have a question about multi vits? > my dd had high selenium when we did her metals test. Which test was this? >i had been giving her Kirkmans Everyday - some to find out these have selenium in them. things i noticed with this vit was that she was more verbal, and decently attentive. > i was giving her SNT, but that aggravated the PST, so those are out. things i noticed with this vit, she was more attentive, less verbal. > I can't win for losing. someone suggested animal friends - they too have selenium. > my question is what can i give her, and what about the difference in these bahaviors with these other vits. I've ssen good things and i am backtracking right now, if i don't get things shifted i could be going downhill. > > any feedback welcome, thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 > my question is what can i give her, and what about the difference in these bahaviors with these other vits. High B6 can aggravate phenol symptoms in sensitive children http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Some vitamins also contain dyes/flavors that kids don't tolerate. If you saw some improvements along with the problems, consider trying Hypoallergenic NuThera, it might work for you. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 it was a blood test called Elemental Analysis (packed erythrocytes) > Karyn > From: " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@...> > Date: 2002/12/06 Fri PM 05:46:12 EST > > Subject: [ ] Re: vitamins > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 > it was a blood test called Elemental Analysis (packed erythrocytes) > > Karyn Then you would probably want to avoid selenium in supplements, and keep her intake of it below 1/2 mcg per pound of kid from supplement sources. Andy .. . . . . . . . . .. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 Andy - that rules out just about every multi vitamin there is, forgot to tell you she is also high in Magnesium. Both of these are in every multivitamin I have found. If I were to give her just the things she needs, she would have no room for food!!!! She will be 3yoa the end of this month. There is only so much I can shove down her w/o making room for food impossible!!!!! If anyone has any suggstions, feedback is welcome. Also we are going to start chelating her next month. I was wondering about the Comprehensive Detox Profile test from GSDL. Is there another lab that does equal testing in Ga? Karyn > > From: " andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> " <AndyCutler@...> > Date: 2002/12/07 Sat PM 04:22:00 EST > > Subject: [ ] Re: vitamins > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 (omitting selenium) > that rules out just about every multi vitamin there is, forgot to tell you she is also high in Magnesium. It is OK for them to have magnesium anyway. I am aware that needing to be particular about what is in your supplements makes most of them off limits, but that is the way it is. Unfortunate, but it isn't going to change because it is inconvenient. >Both of these are in every multivitamin I have found. If I were to give her just the things she needs, she would have no room for food!!!! She will be 3yoa the end of this month. There is only so much I can shove down her w/o making room for food impossible!!!!! > If anyone has any suggstions, feedback is welcome. Be selective and give her the few important things. Mix as much of it as tastes OK with food and juice (e. g. vitamin C) > > Also we are going to start chelating her next month. I was wondering about the Comprehensive Detox Profile test from GSDL. Is there another lab that does equal testing in Ga? Not for that particular test. GSDL is unique for that test as far as I know. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 What vitamin helps children with attention, focus and hyperacvity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 What vitamin helps children with attention, focus and hyperacvity? > Lots of them. Tyrosine, forskolin, vitamin E, also vitamin C but it works the best if given 4 times a day. Andy . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 >>> What vitamin helps children with attention, focus and hyperacvity? Magnesium works here very well. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 Hi This is common problem. I did get mine eventually but whats the point with such bad buisness practices - and after all that Sam didn't change when I withdrew it. I have sample of Spectrum Complete but haven't tried it yet, I stick with singles for now. I think another of our members here was going to take legal actio, she never got product either Mandi in UK I have (richer than me) frineds in UK who have big stoskc so they don;t run out........ > I was a member of this list a while ago and learned about Brainchild > vitamins here. As a result of all of the glowing praise these > products were given, I went ahead and ordered some Spectrum II for my son > last September. I have yet to receive anything from > this company. I last heard from Lang January 13 (appx) and he told > me that the product was shipped January 9. I have yet > to see it. I live in Canada but I still find it hard to believe that I > shouldn't have received it yet. > > As a result of this, I refuse to deal with Brainchild again. I can't > afford it - I am already out $130 (Can) from ordering this one > product. However, Sam is still in need of a good multi-vitamin. I've > ordered a trial size of Spectrum Complete (Hypoallergenic) > today from Kirkman's. Is there a better product to try? > > Looking forward to reading your responses... > > C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 >>>>However, Sam is still in need of a good multi-vitamin. I agree that it is a big problem that does not seem to be resolving itself. I certainly couldn't afford to lose $130 on anything. Very sorry this happened. It is a great product if you can ever get it. But reliability is equally important. 1. Have you looked at Freeda Vitamins? www.freedavitamins.com The Feingold folks love this brand because they are made for seriously sensitive people...they are 'free' of everything. The vitamin A palmitate in these products is okay and free of the negative preservative as well. They have several to choose from. 2. I have liked Danplex in the past too. This is a multi-everything powdered product. But we didn't like the taste at all so I just filled empty capsules with the powder and the boys swallowed those. But they prefer capsules to any type of 'stuff' in their food or drink. However, most people I talked to think it tastes far better than other choices. The site is: www.danplex.com at the site there is a toll-free number. Click on 'order here' to read the ingredients and about the product. " The company was founded in 1998 and is devoted to the research and discovery of new and innovative nutritional products used in the fields of autism, longevity medicine, and neuropsychiatry. " 3. Animal Parade vitamins at the health food store by Nature's Plus. I think they are tasty and they seem to be well-tolerated by most kids. I haven't heard anything negative at all. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 Have you called Lang yourself- I honestly have tried two different times- and reached him in the mornings. I am sure he would remedy the problem. He does know the problems with production and shipping. and does apologize. He moved to a new facility about a month ago so this should help. I would try and call him and figure it out. -Keri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 -I hear you on Brainchild...mine was ordered last July so I wouldn't hold your breath. I also was charged then, but mine was $89 (should I feel lucky? lol.) My husband filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau after our attempts at getting a refund from Brainchild were ignored. The BBB tells us their inquiries were ingnored as well so they have a negative report filed. They told us to contact the DA or Attorney General. So far-no time. Its very frusterating and disappointing I know. Alot of us shelling out money for supplements, therapies, etc cannot afford to throw our money away. :-( I hope you fine a good alternative. I am looking as well. -- In , " C <dsciswe@y...> " <dsciswe@y...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I was a member of this list a while ago and learned about Brainchild vitamins here. As a result of all of the glowing praise these > products were given, I went ahead and ordered some Spectrum II for my son last September. I have yet to receive anything from > this company. I last heard from Lang January 13 (appx) and he told me that the product was shipped January 9. I have yet > to see it. I live in Canada but I still find it hard to believe that I shouldn't have received it yet. > > As a result of this, I refuse to deal with Brainchild again. I can't afford it - I am already out $130 (Can) from ordering this one > product. However, Sam is still in need of a good multi-vitamin. I've ordered a trial size of Spectrum Complete (Hypoallergenic) > today from Kirkman's. Is there a better product to try? > > Looking forward to reading your responses... > > C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 i agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about alternatives to Brainchild. This list sure moves fast! Since we've already ordered the Spectrum Complete, we'll give that a go first. I'll let you know if they help or not. We've tried Super NuThera in the past and found that they made Sam very irritable - I suspect it was the high B6. We've had Sam on elimination diets this past month and he hasn't been receiving any supplementation thus far. I know for a fact that magnesium is good for him - greatly reduced anxiety. I am unsure whether there is enough magnesium in the Spectrum Complete - we'll find out I guess! Thanks again! C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 > Have you called Lang yourself- I honestly have tried two different > times- and reached him in the mornings. I am sure he would remedy the > problem. He does know the problems with production and shipping. and does > apologize. He moved to a new facility about a month ago so this should help. > I would try and call him and figure it out. -Keri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Hi Toity. Haven't read what Hall 4 says about these, but I am currently reiterating DoH advice that infants breastfeeding after 6 months or infants on less than a 500-600mls of formula a day after 6 months should give vitamin drops. Will also advise breastfeeding Asian babies should have before 6 months if necessary. I also tend to plug them for any1-5s who do not seem to eat well, if necessary. I have the impression that many HVs do not mention vitamin drops but ricketts does appear to be popping up again. Also make a point of reminding about iron containing foods for babes and toddlers and reminding mums at newbirth visits and opportunistically about their own calcium intake for prevention of osteoporosis, as I have a thing about this. Just read some breastfeeding babies in the States have had brain abnormalities following maternal Vitamin B12 deficiency in vegetarian mums so will add this onto my 'mini nutrition' lectures. Regards, June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 June, thanks for confirming what many of us in practice are doing. Recent article in Nursing Standard critising hvs about attitudes to vegetarians. The Vegetarian Society members felt hvs were not giving accurate advice on nutrition. Vitamin supplement has always been a very individual case, but vit drops are not always actively promoted in clinics any more. Jeanette > Hi Toity. Haven't read what Hall 4 says about these, but I am currently >reiterating DoH advice that infants breastfeeding after 6 months or infants >on less than a 500-600mls of formula a day after 6 months should give vitamin >drops. Will also advise breastfeeding Asian babies should have before 6 >months if necessary. I also tend to plug them for any1-5s who do not seem to >eat well, if necessary. I have the impression that many HVs do not mention >vitamin drops but ricketts does appear to be popping up again. >Also make a point of reminding about iron containing foods for babes and >toddlers and reminding mums at newbirth visits and opportunistically about >their own calcium intake for prevention of osteoporosis, as I have a thing >about this. >Just read some breastfeeding babies in the States have had brain >abnormalities following maternal Vitamin B12 deficiency in vegetarian mums >so will add this onto my 'mini nutrition' lectures. >Regards, June -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Dear Senate, Today's BMJ has an article about the value of folic acid + iron in maternity care, in an Asian country where meat is a rare part of the diet for most people. Woody. On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 06:24:43 EST junet579@... wrote: > Hi Toity. Haven't read what Hall 4 says about these, but I am currently > reiterating DoH advice that infants breastfeeding after 6 months or infants > on less than a 500-600mls of formula a day after 6 months should give vitamin > drops. Will also advise breastfeeding Asian babies should have before 6 > months if necessary. I also tend to plug them for any1-5s who do not seem to > eat well, if necessary. I have the impression that many HVs do not mention > vitamin drops but ricketts does appear to be popping up again. > Also make a point of reminding about iron containing foods for babes and > toddlers and reminding mums at newbirth visits and opportunistically about > their own calcium intake for prevention of osteoporosis, as I have a thing > about this. > Just read some breastfeeding babies in the States have had brain > abnormalities following maternal Vitamin B12 deficiency in vegetarian mums > so will add this onto my 'mini nutrition' lectures. > Regards, June ---------------------- Woody Caan a.w.caan@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Thank you for your pieces of advice. Senate as usual comes up trumps! Toity ------------------ > >June, thanks for confirming what many of us in practice are doing. Recent article in Nursing Standard critising hvs about attitudes to vegetarians. The Vegetarian Society members felt hvs were not giving accurate advice on nutrition. Vitamin supplement has always been a very individual case, but vit drops are not always actively promoted in clinics any more. Jeanette >> Hi Toity. Haven't read what Hall 4 says about these, but I am currently >>reiterating DoH advice that infants breastfeeding after 6 months or infants >>on less than a 500-600mls of formula a day after 6 months should give vitamin >>drops. Will also advise breastfeeding Asian babies should have before 6 >>months if necessary. I also tend to plug them for any1-5s who do not seem to >>eat well, if necessary. I have the impression that many HVs do not mention >>vitamin drops but ricketts does appear to be popping up again. >>Also make a point of reminding about iron containing foods for babes and >>toddlers and reminding mums at newbirth visits and opportunistically about >>their own calcium intake for prevention of osteoporosis, as I have a thing >>about this. >>Just read some breastfeeding babies in the States have had brain >>abnormalities following maternal Vitamin B12 deficiency in vegetarian mums >>so will add this onto my 'mini nutrition' lectures. >>Regards, June > > > >-------------------- >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Toity, I ensure pre-term babes get vitamin drops for the first year of life, and advise them for skinny or picky ones but apart from that I try hard to encourage a vitamin and iron rich diet from 6 months on and ask about diet at all contacts. I was interested to read June's report on Vit B12 def. in vege mums in the States. I am vegetarian and suggest green beans and Marmite (over 1 year) as a way of ensuring sufficient B12. Ruth Re: vitamins > > June, thanks for confirming what many of us in practice are doing. Recent article in Nursing Standard critising hvs about attitudes to vegetarians. The Vegetarian Society members felt hvs were not giving accurate advice on nutrition. Vitamin supplement has always been a very individual case, but vit drops are not always actively promoted in clinics any more. Jeanette > > Hi Toity. Haven't read what Hall 4 says about these, but I am currently > >reiterating DoH advice that infants breastfeeding after 6 months or infants > >on less than a 500-600mls of formula a day after 6 months should give vitamin > >drops. Will also advise breastfeeding Asian babies should have before 6 > >months if necessary. I also tend to plug them for any1-5s who do not seem to > >eat well, if necessary. I have the impression that many HVs do not mention > >vitamin drops but ricketts does appear to be popping up again. > >Also make a point of reminding about iron containing foods for babes and > >toddlers and reminding mums at newbirth visits and opportunistically about > >their own calcium intake for prevention of osteoporosis, as I have a thing > >about this. > >Just read some breastfeeding babies in the States have had brain > >abnormalities following maternal Vitamin B12 deficiency in vegetarian mums > >so will add this onto my 'mini nutrition' lectures. > >Regards, June > > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Ruth, thanks for reminding me about Marmite as a source of vit B12 for older babies( Although I hate the stuff myself) If I remember rightly, in the 'old days' we used to suggest it on toast for babies starting finger feeding until the salt content became an issue. June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 > I just went and bought myself some vitamins. Potassium, B12, Fish Oil and Vitamin C. I haven't ever really taken vitamins so hopefully this will give me some good results. :-) Anyone else have any good luck with these? > ~Leah>> I've done well on vitamins, minerals and amino acids (I'm not taking medication). Buy good quality vitamins - there's a lot of junk out there. Plus a lot of vitamins have additves, such a soy, that are counter productive if you have thyroid disease. I'm not crazy about fish oils, but then I'm a vegitarian. There's often questions about the mercury content in fish oil and salmon oil in particular is questionable. Most salmon is from farmed salmon, which are given loads of drugs and poor feed (including soy). B12 is essential - you may want to add some B-Complex and B5 (for adrenals). I've read some literature that more than 3 grams of vitamin C is not good for the thyroid. But I've taken up to 10 grams a day and didn't feel any adverse effects. A lot of people seem to have success with selenium. There's lot of information about the connection between low selenium and thyroid disease. I also take zinc - and it's really apparent to me when I miss my Zinc - a lot of symptoms come back. You may want to look into moducare - there's some good stuff coming out about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Also, add the amino acid Tyrosine. There may be others that others take but taking Tyrosine does a lot for the energy. I take 500/day. In regards to fish oils, the only ones who will guarantee that it is pure, no mercury, are Carlson's. Trust me they are EXPENSIVE but it is far better to take them than to not take them. You might want to check out an article on Shomon's page, titled, " What's in my medicine cabinet " . I don't take anywhere near the things she has tried and then everyone is different anyway. Good luck on your hunt for the right combination for you! P > > I just went and bought myself some vitamins. Potassium, B12, Fish > Oil and Vitamin C. I haven't ever really taken vitamins so hopefully > this will give me some good results. :-) Anyone else have any good > luck with these? > > ~Leah>> > > > I've done well on vitamins, minerals and amino acids (I'm not taking > medication). > > Buy good quality vitamins - there's a lot of junk out there. Plus a > lot of vitamins have additves, such a soy, that are counter > productive if you have thyroid disease. > > I'm not crazy about fish oils, but then I'm a vegitarian. There's > often questions about the mercury content in fish oil and salmon oil > in particular is questionable. Most salmon is from farmed salmon, > which are given loads of drugs and poor feed (including soy). > > B12 is essential - you may want to add some B-Complex and B5 (for > adrenals). I've read some literature that more than 3 grams of > vitamin C is not good for the thyroid. But I've taken up to 10 grams > a day and didn't feel any adverse effects. > > A lot of people seem to have success with selenium. There's lot of > information about the connection between low selenium and thyroid > disease. I also take zinc - and it's really apparent to me when I > miss my Zinc - a lot of symptoms come back. > > You may want to look into moducare - there's some good stuff coming > out about it. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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