Re: older patient intro for newbies

March 25, 2011

Thank you Lori, that was absolutely wonderful and inspiring to read! Hooray

for your boy!!! So happy for you all!

kathi

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lori

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 6:31 PM

Subject: older patient intro for newbies

Hi Sheryl,

My son started with Dr. G just before he turned 4. He is now 12 and is

completely indistinguishable from his peers. He is extremely bright, sweet,

fun, funny, gets great grades, is a talented musician on piano and clarinet,

is involved in many clubs in and out of school. He receives no aide in his

grade 7 regular public school class. He is in the process of getting his red

belt in Karate, is an avid skier, has played team sports of hockey and

soccer. He has many, many acquaintances and a few close friends.

We started the protocol with an IgE in the 3800s with a range reference of 0

- 60 and an HHv6 of that was over 1200 with a range reference of less then

0.01. We have been on all the antivirals that Dr. G uses, with Valtrex being

our favourite, and all the antifungals that Dr. G uses with great results

from all. We started Immunovir about a year and a half ago and have also

had great results from the SSRI Paxil. We supplement Flintstones multi,

iron and Kyodophilus only.

My son would be considered recovered from his symptoms of the A word,

however Dr. G still does not consider his immune system recovered as we

still struggle with an IgE in the 400s, in spite of the strictest diet you

can imagine. It is something we still work on and my son is amazing with

his discipline as he wants to be healthy more then anything. He would never

cheat and on the contrary, needs a lot of encouragement to try anything

different for fear that Dr. Goldberg would be upset with him, or that it

will make him ill again.

I encourage all those lurking to make the best decision for your child and

get them healthy, in a way that heals their immune system, essentially

fixing what is broken and not using the bandaide treatments that are so

common and only cover up symptoms, not heal the cause. We live in Canada

and have spent thousands with this protocol between Dr. G's phone consults

and the co pay for the prescriptions, which is only because my husband has

lousy insurance coverage through his work. However, if it cost 10x what we

have paid, it would be worth every cent. Do what you have to do to see Dr.

G or Dr and get your child healthy and healed, once and for all.

My child is not remarkable at all. We just sacrificed whatever we had to,

to get him to the right doctor. We listened and respected Dr. G and we have

never looked back with an ounce of regret. On the contrary, our boy has

surpassed our greatest expectations, from the day he was born, not that

horrible, fateful day when the experts labelled him with that ugly A word.

Encouraging you all for the future of all our children,

Lori ,

Oakville, ON

_____

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Sheryl

Sent: March-25-11 5:17 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: die-off vs. intolerance

Lori,

Our appt isn't until June, but I have been reading accounts like yours for a

year now. I am trying to prepare myself.

How long have you been on the protocol and can you tell me how your child is

doing? Age

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2011, at 1:50 PM, " Lori " <lbharris@...

<mailto:lbharris%40cogeco.ca>

<mailto:lbharris%40cogeco.ca> > wrote:

> Kathi,

>

> It sounds like a fungal kill off to me. I hate to tell you this, but my

sons

> kill off would last up to a month and all we could do was be extra

patient,

> reduce any stress or expectations on him and just ride it out. It is

> especially important however to keep his diet extra clean as the last

thing

> you want to mix in there is a food intolerance.

>

> We have had one or two kill offs that were so bad I didn't even send my

son

> to school for a couple of weeks, as no one needed to see him acting so out

> of character, spitting, smashing his head on the lockers, throwing himself

> on the ground and just acting so very crazy. Just when I thought I was at

> my wits end, I would notice that he was calmer and not as out of control

and

> before we knew it, he was more then just fine, but better then he had ever

> been.

>

> All this unusual behaviour came as a shock to me as I never thought yeast

> was an issue for my son. He had never really consumed much sugar, or

fruit,

> and his diet was always so natural and healthy.

>

> After seeing such a dramatic reaction from a usually very passive easy

going

> boy, I was so glad to get all those toxins out of his system. His

> behaviour, stims and scripting were all way better after such a horrible

> kill off.

>

> Hang on, dig in and ride it out. It was truly the hardest part of the

> protocol for us, but worth it, believe it or not, in the end!

>

> Lori

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Kathi

> Sent: March-25-11 10:10 AM

> <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> Subject: die-off vs. intolerance

>

> I had sent another post that I didn't see show up. I'm sorry if this is a

> repeat and I missed it.

>

> We are on day 9 of nizoral (75 mg) and since upping it from 50, my son's

> behavior is just crazy, whiney, angry, frustrated, hitting his head at

times

> and major meltdowns; in between he's just ok, otherwise, he's basically

all

> over the place. I cannot tell if this is die-off or if he's not tolerating

> it. He's kinda crazy and he's all over me every second, he wants to eat

> constantly (especially fruit, so this is what makes me think it's

die-off).

> He had nizoral only once before and he wasn't even 3 (5 now) and I believe

> we stopped it early thinking it didn't tolerate it.

>

> I called the office, they said die-off can last up to 21 days. Can anyone

> please share if this is die-off? Right now he's screaming down stairs, so

> here I go to put him on the sofa to keep him safe.

>

> Thx

>

> kathi

>

March 25, 2011

Thank you, Lori! I am very hopeful for my son. I so want to do right by him. We

have been trying so hard for so many years and at great expense. But this looks

to be the most promising.

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2011, at 3:30 PM, " Lori " <lbharris@...> wrote:

> Hi Sheryl,

>

> My son started with Dr. G just before he turned 4. He is now 12 and is

> completely indistinguishable from his peers. He is extremely bright, sweet,

> fun, funny, gets great grades, is a talented musician on piano and clarinet,

> is involved in many clubs in and out of school. He receives no aide in his

> grade 7 regular public school class. He is in the process of getting his red

> belt in Karate, is an avid skier, has played team sports of hockey and

> soccer. He has many, many acquaintances and a few close friends.

>

> We started the protocol with an IgE in the 3800s with a range reference of 0

> - 60 and an HHv6 of that was over 1200 with a range reference of less then

> 0.01. We have been on all the antivirals that Dr. G uses, with Valtrex being

> our favourite, and all the antifungals that Dr. G uses with great results

> from all. We started Immunovir about a year and a half ago and have also

> had great results from the SSRI Paxil. We supplement Flintstones multi,

> iron and Kyodophilus only.

>

> My son would be considered recovered from his symptoms of the A word,

> however Dr. G still does not consider his immune system recovered as we

> still struggle with an IgE in the 400s, in spite of the strictest diet you

> can imagine. It is something we still work on and my son is amazing with

> his discipline as he wants to be healthy more then anything. He would never

> cheat and on the contrary, needs a lot of encouragement to try anything

> different for fear that Dr. Goldberg would be upset with him, or that it

> will make him ill again.

>

> I encourage all those lurking to make the best decision for your child and

> get them healthy, in a way that heals their immune system, essentially

> fixing what is broken and not using the bandaide treatments that are so

> common and only cover up symptoms, not heal the cause. We live in Canada

> and have spent thousands with this protocol between Dr. G's phone consults

> and the co pay for the prescriptions, which is only because my husband has

> lousy insurance coverage through his work. However, if it cost 10x what we

> have paid, it would be worth every cent. Do what you have to do to see Dr.

> G or Dr and get your child healthy and healed, once and for all.

>

> My child is not remarkable at all. We just sacrificed whatever we had to,

> to get him to the right doctor. We listened and respected Dr. G and we have

> never looked back with an ounce of regret. On the contrary, our boy has

> surpassed our greatest expectations, from the day he was born, not that

> horrible, fateful day when the experts labelled him with that ugly A word.

>

> Encouraging you all for the future of all our children,

>

> Lori ,

>

> Oakville, ON

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sheryl

> Sent: March-25-11 5:17 PM

>

> Subject: Re: die-off vs. intolerance

>

> Lori,

> Our appt isn't until June, but I have been reading accounts like yours for a

> year now. I am trying to prepare myself.

>

> How long have you been on the protocol and can you tell me how your child is

> doing? Age

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Mar 25, 2011, at 1:50 PM, " Lori " <lbharris@...

> <mailto:lbharris%40cogeco.ca> > wrote:

>

> > Kathi,

> >

> > It sounds like a fungal kill off to me. I hate to tell you this, but my

> sons

> > kill off would last up to a month and all we could do was be extra

> patient,

> > reduce any stress or expectations on him and just ride it out. It is

> > especially important however to keep his diet extra clean as the last

> thing

> > you want to mix in there is a food intolerance.

> >

> > We have had one or two kill offs that were so bad I didn't even send my

> son

> > to school for a couple of weeks, as no one needed to see him acting so out

> > of character, spitting, smashing his head on the lockers, throwing himself

> > on the ground and just acting so very crazy. Just when I thought I was at

> > my wits end, I would notice that he was calmer and not as out of control

> and

> > before we knew it, he was more then just fine, but better then he had ever

> > been.

> >

> > All this unusual behaviour came as a shock to me as I never thought yeast

> > was an issue for my son. He had never really consumed much sugar, or

> fruit,

> > and his diet was always so natural and healthy.

> >

> > After seeing such a dramatic reaction from a usually very passive easy

> going

> > boy, I was so glad to get all those toxins out of his system. His

> > behaviour, stims and scripting were all way better after such a horrible

> > kill off.

> >

> > Hang on, dig in and ride it out. It was truly the hardest part of the

> > protocol for us, but worth it, believe it or not, in the end!

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: <mailto:%40>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

> Kathi

> > Sent: March-25-11 10:10 AM

> > <mailto:%40>

> > Subject: die-off vs. intolerance

> >

> > I had sent another post that I didn't see show up. I'm sorry if this is a

> > repeat and I missed it.

> >

> > We are on day 9 of nizoral (75 mg) and since upping it from 50, my son's

> > behavior is just crazy, whiney, angry, frustrated, hitting his head at

> times

> > and major meltdowns; in between he's just ok, otherwise, he's basically

> all

> > over the place. I cannot tell if this is die-off or if he's not tolerating

> > it. He's kinda crazy and he's all over me every second, he wants to eat

> > constantly (especially fruit, so this is what makes me think it's

> die-off).

> > He had nizoral only once before and he wasn't even 3 (5 now) and I believe

> > we stopped it early thinking it didn't tolerate it.

> >

> > I called the office, they said die-off can last up to 21 days. Can anyone

> > please share if this is die-off? Right now he's screaming down stairs, so

> > here I go to put him on the sofa to keep him safe.

> >

> > Thx

> >

> > kathi

> >

March 25, 2011

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

die-off vs. intolerance

>

> I had sent another post that I didn't see show up. I'm sorry if this is a

> repeat and I missed it.

>

> We are on day 9 of nizoral (75 mg) and since upping it from 50, my son's

> behavior is just crazy, whiney, angry, frustrated, hitting his head at

times

> and major meltdowns; in between he's just ok, otherwise, he's basically

all

> over the place. I cannot tell if this is die-off or if he's not tolerating

> it. He's kinda crazy and he's all over me every second, he wants to eat

> constantly (especially fruit, so this is what makes me think it's

die-off).

> He had nizoral only once before and he wasn't even 3 (5 now) and I believe

> we stopped it early thinking it didn't tolerate it.

>

> I called the office, they said die-off can last up to 21 days. Can anyone

> please share if this is die-off? Right now he's screaming down stairs, so

> here I go to put him on the sofa to keep him safe.

>

> Thx

>

> kathi

>

March 26, 2011

Sheryl,

Another thanks for posting. I'm new to this board and will be starting the

process to see Dr. G. We've mostly been doing DAN approaches but the focus

makes sense to me. Anyway, it is so helpful and inspiring to hear positive

outcomes.

Sylvia

Mom of Theo (age 2.8)

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On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:46 PM, " Kathi " <kathi0908@...> wrote:

> Thank you Lori, that was absolutely wonderful and inspiring to read! Hooray

> for your boy!!! So happy for you all!

>

> kathi

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lori

>

> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 6:31 PM

>

> Subject: older patient intro for newbies