Tics

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I had trouble with dry eyes as a child. My son has " convergence insufficiency "

which is apparently common in kids with AS and learning disabilities. He also

has a problem with " saccadic eye movement " . We were able to help him with

vision therapy. We're still paying it off, but it was worth every penny.

doesn't rub his eyes, but often tries to look at things with only one eye and

wiggles his fingers in his face, well he used to before glasses and vision

therapy. This became a bigger problem when got to 4th grade and everyone

was reading smaller print and couldn't follow and track to get to the next

line. He liked books with few lines, large letters and spacing. He got stuck

on Curious for a while until he had the right glasses RX then his reading

took off again when he got vision therapy. Now he reads chapter books with very

small print. Take a look at The Lightening Thief and you'll see how small the

print is.

Miriam

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> > My son Sam has a facial tic. It's sort of a grimace that mostly affects his

mouth, and mostly one side of his face, kind of a scrunch/chewing motion. I

asked him if it bothers him and he said sometimes his face gets " tired " after he

does it for a long time.

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> > I mostly ignore it, but I am noticing that in public, he's getting a few

stares because of it.

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> > I'm not really interested in drugs or anything to treat this, because I know

most of them have some fairly negative side effects, but are there any

alternative treatments and if any of you deal with this, how do you handle the

inevitable comments and staring? Also, is this common with Aspergers/HFA?

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> > BTW, my husband's younger half brother has Tourette's so there is some

genetic background for this in the family.

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My Aspie kid also has intermittent tics that are also a grimace. I've taken him

to the doctor about it, as I have an older son that was diagnosed with

tourettes.

I was told that the tics are not uncommon in kids with aspergers. He has them

every few months, they last a month or so, and then they go away.

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> My son Sam has a facial tic. It's sort of a grimace that mostly affects his

mouth, and mostly one side of his face, kind of a scrunch/chewing motion. I

asked him if it bothers him and he said sometimes his face gets " tired " after he

does it for a long time.

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> I mostly ignore it, but I am noticing that in public, he's getting a few

stares because of it.

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> I'm not really interested in drugs or anything to treat this, because I know

most of them have some fairly negative side effects, but are there any

alternative treatments and if any of you deal with this, how do you handle the

inevitable comments and staring? Also, is this common with Aspergers/HFA?

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> BTW, my husband's younger half brother has Tourette's so there is some genetic

background for this in the family.

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Both my kids and my dh, have an array of tics. It can be distressing at times,

but we have learned to live with them. I can tell whenever they are stressed,

because the tics increase.

We have not tried any meds for the tics specifically. My dd was put on a low

dose of propranolol for migraines and for a while the tics went away. I could

tell if she missed a dose, because she would tic. After more than a year, she

has noticed that the tics have returned, despite the meds.

Kylie

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> > My son Sam has a facial tic. It's sort of a grimace that mostly affects his

mouth, and mostly one side of his face, kind of a scrunch/chewing motion. I

asked him if it bothers him and he said sometimes his face gets " tired " after he

does it for a long time.

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> > I mostly ignore it, but I am noticing that in public, he's getting a few

stares because of it.

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> > I'm not really interested in drugs or anything to treat this, because I know

most of them have some fairly negative side effects, but are there any

alternative treatments and if any of you deal with this, how do you handle the

inevitable comments and staring? Also, is this common with Aspergers/HFA?

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> > BTW, my husband's younger half brother has Tourette's so there is some

genetic background for this in the family.

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My 12 year old aspie also tic's, it is a constant and can make me crazy as well. I try not to draw attention to it, if we do, he tic's even more. The Doc finally dx him with tourettes, I went after a diagnosis because the school he was in last year kept saying my son was just acting out for the attention. Now that he is in middle school it is the same thing, the school will even tally in the spiral note book they keep on him how many tics he does in each class. Go figure, they have nothing else to do.

Dawn

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The school is aware of the tourettes, I also had the report the doc writes up with the dx put in my son's school file. The school has a mind of their own, they claim it is a behavior and acting out. LOL they should come to visit us at home. This school district is a joke when it comes to working with kid who are verbal and on the spectrum. If I could go to a different district I would, I am stuck as moving is expensive. For now, I have to just keep trying to educate the school on my son's dx.

Dawn

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Holy cow. The school does this? Have you told them that it is a medical condition? I'd have the doc send something explaining that there was no reason to be "tallying" something that a person with a disability does.

How horrible.

Ahhhhh, Laughter................

Robin

From: azucarmama68@... <azucarmama68@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Tics Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:44 PM

My 12 year old aspie also tic's, it is a constant and can make me crazy as well. I try not to draw attention to it, if we do, he tic's even more. The Doc finally dx him with tourettes, I went after a diagnosis because the school he was in last year kept saying my son was just acting out for the attention. Now that he is in middle school it is the same thing, the school will even tally in the spiral note book they keep on him how many tics he does in each class. Go figure, they have nothing else to do.

Dawn

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Well, Dawn,,,,,,,shame on the school and hugs to you.

What an amazing and wonderful mom you are.

Ahhhhh, Laughter................

Robin

From: azucarmama68@... <azucarmama68@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Tics Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:12 AM

The school is aware of the tourettes, I also had the report the doc writes up with the dx put in my son's school file. The school has a mind of their own, they claim it is a behavior and acting out. LOL they should come to visit us at home. This school district is a joke when it comes to working with kid who are verbal and on the spectrum. If I could go to a different district I would, I am stuck as moving is expensive. For now, I have to just keep trying to educate the school on my son's dx.

Dawn

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Anyone know anything about tics, are most tics transient in young children, if

seizures are ruled out??

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Have you looked into PANDAS/PITANDS?

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mallik

Sent: March-18-11 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: Tics

Anyone know anything about tics, are most tics transient in young children,

if

seizures are ruled out??

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My sons prompt dependent-ness  and tics began while he was on Risperdal, which I

discovered tic disorders can be a permanent side effect of the drug...affects

the basal ganglia which controls movement. I am game to try this preotocol by

all means. I promised my son I will never give up and I will not! thank you.

Lindy

" Do not fear nor be dismayed for the Lord your God is with you ALWAYS! "

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  " The mighty oak was once a NUT that stood it's ground. "

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Amantadine may possibly counteract the tics associated w/Risperdal.  It has

also

made incredible gains in my cognitive function, memory, and focus.  Just

incredible.  It's not a drug, but I assume you're not under Dr G's care if

he's on Risperdal...

HTH

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From: Lindy <reverseautism@...>

Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 12:39:55 PM

Subject: Tics

 

My sons prompt dependent-ness  and tics began while he was on Risperdal, which

I

discovered tic disorders can be a permanent side effect of the drug...affects

the basal ganglia which controls movement. I am game to try this preotocol by

all means. I promised my son I will never give up and I will not! thank you.

Lindy

" Do not fear nor be dismayed for the Lord your God is with you ALWAYS! "

1:9

  " The mighty oak was once a NUT that stood it's ground. "

Protect yourself from radiation and Bring your body back into balance...

http://www.cellphoneguardian.com/cmd.php?af=731322

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Hi Sharri,

For underaroused clients who have tics over face, voice, motor, do you also use C4-A2 SMR UP?

They are inactive. But interestingly, there is H.B at T3 AND T4.

Do you not consider any ratios (at C4A2 and so on) that seem abnormal? OR when abnormality is found, do you train them ?

How do you find the abnormality (e.x T/B) ?

Best regards,

Esther

From: Sharrie Hanley <drsharrie@...> Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 3:00:21 AMSubject: Tics

Okay so that was my stuff (that pete was just talking about) that I figured out over the years of working with children in foster care.

So this is what I learned from mentors and classes and well just kind of figured out.

use C4A2 for training regular everyday kind of stuff

that's when the number on the reports page where it says C4 smr % is lower than 10% and verified that it it is actually lobeta waves and not alpha leaking into it

And actually now I work more in quadrants for short bursts and get even greater results

so like an Fp2A2 for 5 minutes then an F4A2 for five mintues then an F8A2 for five mintues then a C4A2 for five mintues etc.

You get the idea

for tension or basically when someone comes in and they are wearing their shoulders for earrings i would do a C4P4 (nicknamed "The Calgon Bath" in my office

Then if someone comes in and they are very aggressive and or violent with the same issues then I would do a C4Pz

well that is the jist it anyways

i mean there is a bit more to all this but that should be enough to get your thorugh this

also

note that when someone comes in with a diagnoses i have learned to not train so much towards a diagnoses but to train really as to what the assessment is telling you to train and then really things will fall into place

i have a very high success rate and i feel that it is because i train to what the assessment says

i believe that pete has said this in the past anyways

the last person that came in with tourettes in my office had huge amounts of hibeta waves running marathons in her brain as soon as those calmed down most her tourettes was gone then i followed the rest with some of the c4 quadrants stuff and she was golden and might i add her tennis game improved too!!!

hope something out of this jibberish helps!!!