Milk substitute

[Guest guest]

I don't know about that one. Do you have any sites bookmarked? I can send a

few on GFCF.

Loriann

http://gfcfrecipes.tripod.com/

http://www.gluten-free.com/recipes.html

http://www.enabling.org/ia/celiac/#recipes

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/4003/gf-index.html - lists allowable

foods

[Guest guest]

I dont know about the provamel milk,but the yoghourts and puddings have

" modified starch ,I use soy for cooking and the occasional milk shake Pat

[Guest guest]

where do you get the almond milk??..............Who makes it?... And is it

very sweet?... My son is allergic to milk and i have been looking for other

things to use, he does not like the rice or soy

stuff......thanks...........Debbie

[Guest guest]

wendie

my son is off dairy too. i tried the rice milk, potato milk and i'm looking

now for the almond milk. he has refused them all. he's drinking more juice

and i give him powdered calcium.

lori

[Guest guest]

THANKS ANNEMARIE.... I,LL LOOK UP THAT BOOK AND SEE IF I CAN GET THE RECIPE

FOR ALMOND MILK............DEBBIE

[Guest guest]

ALMOND MILK.... I NEVER HEARD OF THAT...

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

When I switched my kids I did the " add alittle bit at a time routine " adding

alittle everyday, starting off very small and now they love it. White Wave

- Silk, plain and chocolate (mix the plain with the chocolate to taste

because its VERY chocolate). It is what has worked for us with both my son

and daughter.

Good Luck with the switch. Lillian

[ ] Milk Substitute

Hi guys,

I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this one. I'm trying to

eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet. I tried the powdered soy

milk & she took one sip & refused to try it again. So then I bought

the Soy Dream regular & chocolate(liquid) & she did the same thing

w/the chocolate. This morning she drank a couple of sips of the

regular, but then stopped. My S.T. had suggested adding a little bit

of regular milk w/the soy to begin w/ & slowly ween her down. So I

tried adding a little milk & she did drink more of it, but not a

whole lot. Her twin sister grabbed up her cup & finished it off.

lol At lunch time I did the same thing, but this time I gave it to

both girls. Sky seemed to drink a bit more, but not the amount she

usually does. Have any of you found a certain brand or type of milk

substitute your kids really like? Sky loves her milk so much I'm

afraid this is going to be much harder than I thought. And we

haven't even began the GF/CF diet yet, I thought that would be the

hardest transition!

Wendie

[Guest guest]

My kids liked Rice milk. It comes in different flavors: vanilla

and chocolate.

Also, don't forget about calcium fortified juices like OJ.

Good luck.

Suzi

> Hi guys,

> I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this one. I'm trying

to

> eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet. I tried the powdered soy

> milk & she took one sip & refused to try it again. So then I

bought

> the Soy Dream regular & chocolate(liquid) & she did the same thing

> w/the chocolate. This morning she drank a couple of sips of the

> regular, but then stopped. My S.T. had suggested adding a little

bit

> of regular milk w/the soy to begin w/ & slowly ween her down. So I

> tried adding a little milk & she did drink more of it, but not a

> whole lot. Her twin sister grabbed up her cup & finished it off.

> lol At lunch time I did the same thing, but this time I gave it

to

> both girls. Sky seemed to drink a bit more, but not the amount

she

> usually does. Have any of you found a certain brand or type of

milk

> substitute your kids really like? Sky loves her milk so much I'm

> afraid this is going to be much harder than I thought. And we

> haven't even began the GF/CF diet yet, I thought that would be the

> hardest transition!

> Wendie

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lillian!!

Wendie

> Hi ,

> When I switched my kids I did the " add alittle bit at a time

routine " adding

> alittle everyday, starting off very small and now they love it.

White Wave

> - Silk, plain and chocolate (mix the plain with the chocolate to

taste

> because its VERY chocolate). It is what has worked for us with both

my son

> and daughter.

>

> Good Luck with the switch. Lillian

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Suzi, I keep forgetting about OJ. My girls have never had OJ,

but I'm sure Sky would like it.

Wendie

> My kids liked Rice milk. It comes in different flavors: vanilla

> and chocolate.

>

> Also, don't forget about calcium fortified juices like OJ.

>

[Guest guest]

Wendie,

I just recently substituted whole milk with soy for

our son b/c of his eczema. His ped. thought that we

could start eliminating certain foods to see what the

culprit is. loves the Silk Soy Milk. It is

liquid form and comes in chocolate, vanilla, and

regular. But he loves any kind of food or drink.

Maybe you can try putting some vanilla extract in her

milk. Then again, it may not be on the gf/cf diet. I'm

not familiar with that diet. I have been meaning to

read about it though. Just to see if it would help

.

It would be a major life change for the whole family

though. And we are a family that revolves around food.

Big time cajun and creole food eaters!!!!!!

My husband is the VP of Tony Chachere's Creole Foods.

So he is always cooking at home and for food shows.

Brock

--- " wendie <hwendie@...> "

<hwendie@...> wrote:

> Hi guys,

> I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this

> one. I'm trying to

> eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet.

[Guest guest]

deborah

thanks so much for your insight on the gf/cf diet. you have been a wealth of

information to me and probably to many others. it's great to hear from a mom

who has been there.

lori

[Guest guest]

Rice milk or almond milk?

Annemarie

[ ] Milk Substitute

Hi guys,

I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this one. I'm trying to

eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet. I tried the powdered soy

milk & she took one sip & refused to try it again. So then I bought

the Soy Dream regular & chocolate(liquid) & she did the same thing

w/the chocolate. This morning she drank a couple of sips of the

regular, but then stopped. My S.T. had suggested adding a little bit

of regular milk w/the soy to begin w/ & slowly ween her down. So I

tried adding a little milk & she did drink more of it, but not a

whole lot. Her twin sister grabbed up her cup & finished it off.

lol At lunch time I did the same thing, but this time I gave it to

both girls. Sky seemed to drink a bit more, but not the amount she

usually does. Have any of you found a certain brand or type of milk

substitute your kids really like? Sky loves her milk so much I'm

afraid this is going to be much harder than I thought. And we

haven't even began the GF/CF diet yet, I thought that would be the

hardest transition!

Wendie

[Guest guest]

We made ours...got the recipe out of a Fit for Life book....Harvey Diamond is

the author I think. They also sell it at our local health food store.

Annemarie

Re: [ ] Milk Substitute

where do you get the almond milk??..............Who makes it?... And is it

very sweet?... My son is allergic to milk and i have been looking for other

things to use, he does not like the rice or soy

stuff......thanks...........Debbie

[Guest guest]

I would try at first mostly cow's milk with a little bit of soy, then slowly

decreasing the amount of cow's milk like your therapist suggested, rather than

just a little real milk.

My son likes the Vance's Darifree potato milk, but he was never much of a milk

drinker anyway, so he' s probably not the best example!

[ ] Milk Substitute

Hi guys,

I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this one. I'm trying to

eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet. I tried the powdered soy

milk & she took one sip & refused to try it again. So then I bought

the Soy Dream regular & chocolate(liquid) & she did the same thing

w/the chocolate. This morning she drank a couple of sips of the

regular, but then stopped. My S.T. had suggested adding a little bit

of regular milk w/the soy to begin w/ & slowly ween her down. So I

tried adding a little milk & she did drink more of it, but not a

whole lot. Her twin sister grabbed up her cup & finished it off.

lol At lunch time I did the same thing, but this time I gave it to

both girls. Sky seemed to drink a bit more, but not the amount she

usually does. Have any of you found a certain brand or type of milk

substitute your kids really like? Sky loves her milk so much I'm

afraid this is going to be much harder than I thought. And we

haven't even began the GF/CF diet yet, I thought that would be the

hardest transition!

Wendie

[Guest guest]

Wendie ,

this could actually be really good news but I need to break something

to you .

If your child is gluten and dairy intolerant they will not initially

like the alternatives because they are trying to fix their craving -

it has nothing to do whatsoever with taste...and if you hunt and hunt

around for a brand that they like - especially a flavoured one(!!)

then the chances are that you are adding in an ingredient that they

cannot tolerate and which gives them a similar hit to the milk ! Do

you see what I mean ? I am not familiar with many of the brands being

discussed here as I am in the UK but I believe you have rice dream >?

That is a good example as that has Barley . Many of the sweetened

versions contain apple juice which should also be avioded and vanilla

flaviouring is often problematic . Chocolate flavouring may be OK but

if your child has any kind of phenol problem then things like sleep

may deteriorate or behaviours like giggling could get worse ( sorry

it can get complicated - I am just trying to say the simplest is

best ) Understand I am not trying to make this more problematic _ ia

m trying to reassure you that it is not that you are providing the

wrong alternative - the chances are if she initially refuses then you

have found the RIGHT one ( unless it tastes disgusting of course ). I

use plain unsweetened soy and plain rice milk ..and I know they are

OK because we all use them .Her sister drank one you tried so it

can't be too bad

If you really feel like you need to use flavourings to get her to

drink it then it might be an idea to do so with a fixed time frame

after which you start to dilute them down . My son used to like a

small carton of strawberry but he liked it too much if you know what

I mean so I started diluting it until it was all but just milk and

gradually he stopped demanding it .

If you child is going to gfcf there is no really easy way to do it -

she will crave these foods and you will have to deny her ( the

problem foods of course !!) once she gets through withdrawal she will

start eating from hunger again instead of seeking to feed her

craving . Also as you deal with milk she will probably start to eat

more and more of any food left in her diet that makes her

feel " good " - so be prepared for her to suddenly want lots of pasta !!

If I were doing it again I would do it all at once and get it over

with but I guess its like smoking - some people have to stop and kill

the craving quick whereas other cut back and cut back !!

I would also use this time to practice my gfcf cookies and cakes -

you might as well do it now while she is probably going to throw them

at the wall anyway !!

Please be encouraged that however difficult this is and however often

she refuses your beautifully baked biscuits she will eventually get

her system clear and then she will start eating again - but as long

as the stuff is in her system she wants to top it up !!I remember

Charlie refusing food for three days and I was really finding it hard

to not give in and give him some " ordinary " food ( he was drinking

and was fine and I was watching him very carefully and would have

intervened if at any stage it seemed he was at all unwell ) ...but I

rationalised that I was offering him chicken nuggets , bread ,

biscuits , fries , cakes , ice cream - all of which had been eaten

enthuiasticly by his slightly older brother and I knew they tasted

fine - it was just about the gluten and casein . He just kept

throwing it at me and crying . Then he cracked and then ate almost

everything I put in front of him !!!

I've ranted on abit but I remember this stage - and I remember after

withdrawal seeing Charlie start to open up ...he was off gluten for a

while before I got casein out properly and he was a different child

therafter ,

Good luck to you ...I send you best wishes and a cyber crash helmet !!

Regards

Deborah

-- In , Brock Roach

<chris_brock1@y...> wrote:

> Wendie,

> I just recently substituted whole milk with soy for

> our son b/c of his eczema. His ped. thought that we

> could start eliminating certain foods to see what the

> culprit is. loves the Silk Soy Milk. It is

> liquid form and comes in chocolate, vanilla, and

> regular. But he loves any kind of food or drink.

>

> Maybe you can try putting some vanilla extract in her

> milk. Then again, it may not be on the gf/cf diet. I'm

> not familiar with that diet. I have been meaning to

> read about it though. Just to see if it would help

> .

> It would be a major life change for the whole family

> though. And we are a family that revolves around food.

> Big time cajun and creole food eaters!!!!!!

> My husband is the VP of Tony Chachere's Creole Foods.

> So he is always cooking at home and for food shows.

> Brock

> --- " wendie <hwendie@h...> "

> <hwendie@h...> wrote:

> > Hi guys,

> > I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this

> > one. I'm trying to

> > eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet.

[Guest guest]

Yael,

Do you have a good source for the DariFree?

Also, is the coconut milk a special fortified one? I have only seen the

canned variety (usually in the Asian foods dept.), which is good for

dairy-free baking, but high in fat and calories. I heard someone say

they used coconut milk from the coconut as a drink, believing that it

contained calcium (I guess because of the " milk " ), but pure coconut milk

has negligible calcium content.

Thanks,

Barbara

yael wrote:

> It is from the health food store. I am blanking on the

> name--something Breeze. Almond Breeze maybe? It has

> fewer calories than rice milk, and tastes richer, as

> far as I am concerned. I like rotating the

> milks--rice, almond, and now DariFree (potato based).

> I know some people who also use coconut but I have not

> been able to find it.

>

> Yael

[Guest guest]

Have you gone to an allergist for the eczema? We took our

daughter, and he did scratch tests on her. She isn't allergic to

any foods, so eliminating food isn't going to help.

The test isn't painful, but it is uncomfortable. However, you have

the results back in less than an hour.

Suzi

> > Hi guys,

> > I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this

> > one. I'm trying to

> > eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet.

[Guest guest]

Brock, My hubby suggested buying the Silk brand next time too. Sky

did a lot better at dinner tonight, but that was with some dairy milk

added in. We haven't started the gf/cf diet yet, but I would hate to

start using something that would be off limits later on. It will be

a huge lifestyle change for us also. My husband is also the chef

around here(I can't cook) & we love Italian foods. I hope we're able

to incorporate this into the gf/cf diet.

Wendie

> > Hi guys,

> > I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this

> > one. I'm trying to

> > eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet.

[Guest guest]

Lori, what do you mix the powdered calcium in to get your son to take

it? I've tried finding a liquid calcium, but the only one I found

has nonfat milk added.

Wendie

> wendie

> my son is off dairy too. i tried the rice milk, potato milk and

i'm looking

> now for the almond milk. he has refused them all. he's drinking

more juice

> and i give him powdered calcium.

> lori

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deborah, thanks so much for the advise & I understand why you brought

all of this up. I think dairy is a big problem for her & not just

w/digestion. She loves her milk & would drink it all day long if I

let her. She also loves chips(which I don't let her have very often)

& cheese sandwiches. I may be wrong here & get a rude awakening, but

I think changing the food will be easier than the milk. My girls are

pretty good at eating whatever I put in front of them. Sky doesn't

ask for certain foods. The only thing she resist right now is foods

that are too mushy or gummy. I guess we'll see in a few weeks how

often I need that crash helmet. Thanks for the advise & support.

Wendie

> Wendie ,

> this could actually be really good news but I need to break

something

> to you .

> If your child is gluten and dairy intolerant they will not

initially

> like the alternatives because they are trying to fix their craving -

> it has nothing to do whatsoever with taste...and if you hunt and

hunt

> around for a brand that they like - especially a flavoured one(!!)

> then the chances are that you are adding in an ingredient that they

> cannot tolerate and which gives them a similar hit to the milk ! Do

> you see what I mean ? I am not familiar with many of the brands

being

> discussed here as I am in the UK but I believe you have rice dream

>?

> That is a good example as that has Barley . Many of the sweetened

> versions contain apple juice which should also be avioded and

vanilla

> flaviouring is often problematic . Chocolate flavouring may be OK

but

> if your child has any kind of phenol problem then things like sleep

> may deteriorate or behaviours like giggling could get worse ( sorry

> it can get complicated - I am just trying to say the simplest is

> best ) Understand I am not trying to make this more problematic _

ia

> m trying to reassure you that it is not that you are providing the

> wrong alternative - the chances are if she initially refuses then

you

> have found the RIGHT one ( unless it tastes disgusting of course ).

I

> use plain unsweetened soy and plain rice milk ..and I know they are

> OK because we all use them .Her sister drank one you tried so it

> can't be too bad

> If you really feel like you need to use flavourings to get her to

> drink it then it might be an idea to do so with a fixed time frame

> after which you start to dilute them down . My son used to like a

> small carton of strawberry but he liked it too much if you know

what

> I mean so I started diluting it until it was all but just milk and

> gradually he stopped demanding it .

> If you child is going to gfcf there is no really easy way to do it -

> she will crave these foods and you will have to deny her ( the

> problem foods of course !!) once she gets through withdrawal she

will

> start eating from hunger again instead of seeking to feed her

> craving . Also as you deal with milk she will probably start to eat

> more and more of any food left in her diet that makes her

> feel " good " - so be prepared for her to suddenly want lots of

pasta !!

> If I were doing it again I would do it all at once and get it over

> with but I guess its like smoking - some people have to stop and

kill

> the craving quick whereas other cut back and cut back !!

> I would also use this time to practice my gfcf cookies and cakes -

> you might as well do it now while she is probably going to throw

them

> at the wall anyway !!

> Please be encouraged that however difficult this is and however

often

> she refuses your beautifully baked biscuits she will eventually get

> her system clear and then she will start eating again - but as long

> as the stuff is in her system she wants to top it up !!I remember

> Charlie refusing food for three days and I was really finding it

hard

> to not give in and give him some " ordinary " food ( he was drinking

> and was fine and I was watching him very carefully and would have

> intervened if at any stage it seemed he was at all unwell ) ...but

I

> rationalised that I was offering him chicken nuggets , bread ,

> biscuits , fries , cakes , ice cream - all of which had been eaten

> enthuiasticly by his slightly older brother and I knew they tasted

> fine - it was just about the gluten and casein . He just kept

> throwing it at me and crying . Then he cracked and then ate almost

> everything I put in front of him !!!

> I've ranted on abit but I remember this stage - and I remember

after

> withdrawal seeing Charlie start to open up ...he was off gluten for

a

> while before I got casein out properly and he was a different child

> therafter ,

> Good luck to you ...I send you best wishes and a cyber crash

helmet !!

> Regards

> Deborah

[Guest guest]

wendie

my son has the powdered calcium dissolved in juice. it is unflavored and has

no preservatives. it is made by KAL 1-800-365-5966 www.nutraceutical.com

just be careful as one of their scoops are for an adult, i figured it out as

a scant 1/4 tsp for my son 40 lbs, 3 yrs old. huge bottle $14 and will last

for approx 300 servings. almost a year. dissolves very quickly.

hope this helps

lori

[Guest guest]

Wendie,

There is a good liquid calcium supplement (includes the necessary

magnesium and vitamin D also) by KAL. I get it through

www.springvalleyherbs.com It has an orange flavor, so I don't have to

mix it with anything. And it's free of wheat, soy, milk, gluten, yeast,

sugat, corn, starch, artificial colors.

~Barbara

wendie wrote:

> Lori, what do you mix the powdered calcium in to get your son to take

> it? I've tried finding a liquid calcium, but the only one I found

> has nonfat milk added.

> Wendie

>

> > wendie

> > my son is off dairy too. i tried the rice milk, potato milk and

> i'm looking

> > now for the almond milk. he has refused them all. he's drinking

> more juice

> > and i give him powdered calcium.

> > lori

[Guest guest]

Vance's Dairy Free comes in Vanilla and Chocolate. It is a potato based

powder that you make in a blender with water. It tastes most like milk

and no dairy. You can buy it at www.vancesfoods.com 1-800497-4834.

wendie wrote:

> Hi guys,

> I'm hoping you guys can give some advise on this one. I'm trying to

> eliminate dairy from my daughter's diet. I tried the powdered soy

> milk & she took one sip & refused to try it again. So then I bought

> the Soy Dream regular & chocolate(liquid) & she did the same thing

> w/the chocolate. This morning she drank a couple of sips of the

> regular, but then stopped. My S.T. had suggested adding a little bit

> of regular milk w/the soy to begin w/ & slowly ween her down. So I

> tried adding a little milk & she did drink more of it, but not a

> whole lot. Her twin sister grabbed up her cup & finished it off.

> lol At lunch time I did the same thing, but this time I gave it to

> both girls. Sky seemed to drink a bit more, but not the amount she

> usually does. Have any of you found a certain brand or type of milk

> substitute your kids really like? Sky loves her milk so much I'm

> afraid this is going to be much harder than I thought. And we

> haven't even began the GF/CF diet yet, I thought that would be the

> hardest transition!

> Wendie

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

My son reacted to soy milk and goat milk. He also is allergic to brown rice. I

couldn't find white rice milk from any grocery stores. He has taken almond milk

for long time without any reactions. However, Dr.G didn't approve almond milk.

 

I really don't know what I can give him as a milk substitute.

 

Any advice will be appreciated!

 

Xiao