reflux

[Guest guest]

Dear Dawn Rose,

Thanks for the info. I am definitely "queen of the Gaviscon,"--w/all the symptoms you describe. I see a Chinese herbalist (she's not really Chinese, but practices Chinese medicine), more for my sinus problems, but also for the reflux. As I see it, I suffer the sinus problems because I am "damp," and so she uses herbs to "warm" me. However, when I get too "warm," the reflux acts up. She can't seem to balance me to address both conditions. Either I am very complicated, or maybe I should see someone who has more expertise (she hasn't been practicing very long, but she does teach this stuff so I believe she is competent). I wish I could see your herbalist--I'd boil the stuff if it would help the acid reflux. Does anyone know if it's possible to treat both the sinus condition and the reflux with Chinese medicine, without one treatment making the other condition worse? (Why can't life ever be simple?)

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

AntJoan, my sinus problems are much better since supplementing with balanced nutrition. I never had much problem with reflux, except when I was pregnant. I was actually supplementing because of a migraine problem, but I think because of the balance I was getting from the supplements, my sinus problems got better, as well as shrinking my thyroid nodule, getting rid of the migraines and lots of other physical problems. Hope this helps.

Donna

http://trak.to/life

Re: Reflux

Dear Dawn Rose, Thanks for the info. I am definitely "queen of the Gaviscon,"--w/all the symptoms you describe. I see a Chinese herbalist (she's not really Chinese, but practices Chinese medicine), more for my sinus problems, but also for the reflux. As I see it, I suffer the sinus problems because I am "damp," and so she uses herbs to "warm" me. However, when I get too "warm," the reflux acts up. She can't seem to balance me to address both conditions. Either I am very complicated, or maybe I should see someone who has more expertise (she hasn't been practicing very long, but she does teach this stuff so I believe she is competent). I wish I could see your herbalist--I'd boil the stuff if it would help the acid reflux. Does anyone know if it's possible to treat both the sinus condition and the reflux with Chinese medicine, without one treatment making the other condition worse? (Why can't life ever be simple?) AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Dawn rose, I was treated by a Naturopath for a stomach problem......gastritis//// where I couldn't eat any veggies, most fruit........all I could eat was carbs.....which produced an overgrowth of yeast in my intestinal tract.....and am now on a strict yeast diet to cure this , and doing very well on it with a lot of nutritional foods and supplements (garlic is the best). But most important, she actually cured my problem with a supplement called ' formula' .....it had a lot of herbs in it... and I feel great now. I can eat any veggy or fruit. I think Herbs do help.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Dear Dawn Rose,

Thanks for the list of herbs! I wish I could find a good herbalist in my area (NYC).

P.S. My husband is working on a deal with an Austrialian company, and is on the phone with "Australia" a lot. At first he thought he'd have to go there, and was looking forward to it and begged to me to go with him. I didn't want to go, as I hate flying, and my tolerance for it is 6 hrs. max. Part of me did want to go, though, as I have cousins and one friend in Sydney. Now that I "know" you, I'm having second thoughts should the chance come up again!

[Guest guest]

Hi - this is what is written on the piece of paper that I get with my herbs

from my doctor for my digestive " stuff " ; I haven't had reflux since I have

been taking them.

Thought AntJoan might want to compare with her herbs from her chinese

medicine doctor:

chai hu 6

bai shao 9

chuan xiong 6

xiang fu 6

shen qu 6

zhi zi 6

dang gui 6

dan shen 6

zhi shi 6

bing lang 4

hou po 4

xuan shen 6

tai zi shen 9

That's accurate as far as I can see, but it is handwritten. Hope this is

useful.

Cheers

DAWN ROSE

>From: Ccherblady@...

>Reply-hyperthyroidism

>hyperthyroidism

>Subject: Re: Reflux

>Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:04:51 EDT

>

>Dawn rose, I was treated by a Naturopath for a stomach

>problem......gastritis//// where I couldn't eat any veggies, most

>fruit........all I could eat was carbs.....which produced an overgrowth of

>yeast in my intestinal tract.....and am now on a strict yeast diet to cure

>this , and doing very well on it with a lot of nutritional foods and

>supplements (garlic is the best). But most important, she actually cured

>my

>problem with a supplement called ' formula' .....it had a lot of

>herbs in it... and I feel great now. I can eat any veggy or fruit. I think

>Herbs do help.

>

> Chris

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh, AntJoan! You gave up a trip to Australia?! I think I might just ride in the baggage compartment for a chance to go there! I've been hearing a lot about that country because Reliv opened up in Australia recently. And, of course, the Olympics this past year. Maybe sometime soon I'll be able to visit there, as well.

Dawn Rose, I didn't realize you were in Australia!

Donna

http://trak.to/life

Re: Reflux

Dear Dawn Rose, Thanks for the list of herbs! I wish I could find a good herbalist in my area (NYC). P.S. My husband is working on a deal with an Austrialian company, and is on the phone with "Australia" a lot. At first he thought he'd have to go there, and was looking forward to it and begged to me to go with him. I didn't want to go, as I hate flying, and my tolerance for it is 6 hrs. max. Part of me did want to go, though, as I have cousins and one friend in Sydney. Now that I "know" you, I'm having second thoughts should the chance come up again!

[Guest guest]

The only reason my hyperT finally got diagnosed was because my stomach

problems took me into the emergency room where they found my racing

pulse.

An acidic stomach should be a symptom to clue doctors into hyperT. I

had complained of it for years, but the doctors just told me to take

antacids. (BTW, the antacids never seemed to help.) When I read up

on HyperT, it said stomach complaints from elderly patients might be

symptomatic of hyperT. Apparently, us younger hyperT folks have

stomach complaints too.

Anyway, I was given a 10-day prescription for Prilosec a couple of

weeks before I was diagnosed with hyperT. I guess 10 days of

Prilosec neutralized the acid enough for my stomach to heal a bit.

For about 6 months I had no stomach pain. Now I occasionally feel

like my stomach is a bit acidic. Those six months were heavenly.

Maybe an occasional dose of Prilosec could do the trick for some

people.

Cate

[Guest guest]

Everyone,

with the reflux, did you get an actual diagnosis of reflux with an upper GI? I

had a normal upper GI, but I still get a lot of heartburn and gas (like the

person earlier described!). I wonder if it has something to do with your

thyroid affecting digestion & metabolism?? I'm curently hypo and wonder if maybe

my digestion is slowed so I get heartburn??? who knows!

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Dear Donna,

Technically, I did not give up a trip to Australia, because my husband didn't go there after all. However--he still might have to go--and he says if I refuse, he'll just stash me in his suitcase and take me along! I hate to fly, and 20-odd hours is definitely too much. It would be something to see, though, and I know I should take a free trip, but I think I'd go crazy for that many hours in an airplane.

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

I'll have to share my secret with your husband so that you can go on that exciting trip! I made sure that my son (16 at the time, and 6', 200 pounds) was relaxed and comfortable for his first plane trip. Can't tell you, but I'll share with him!

Donna

Re: Reflux

Dear Donna, Technically, I did not give up a trip to Australia, because my husband didn't go there after all. However--he still might have to go--and he says if I refuse, he'll just stash me in his suitcase and take me along! I hate to fly, and 20-odd hours is definitely too much. It would be something to see, though, and I know I should take a free trip, but I think I'd go crazy for that many hours in an airplane. AntJoan

[Guest guest]

AntJoan, I flew for the first time in 23 years last month without alcohol or

tranquilizers. Still slightly nervous but still able to walk on the plane

without being completely phobic. Someone on this bulletin board last year

recommended a book that might help someone else. Turns out the authors live

in the area (Ph.Ds)...highly recommend. Let me know if you're interested.

Mona

Re: Reflux

I'll have to share my secret with your husband so that you can go on that

exciting trip! I made sure that my son (16 at the time, and 6', 200 pounds)

was relaxed and comfortable for his first plane trip. Can't tell you, but

I'll share with him!

Donna

Re: Reflux

Dear Donna,

Technically, I did not give up a trip to Australia, because my husband

didn't

go there after all. However--he still might have to go--and he says if I

refuse, he'll just stash me in his suitcase and take me along! I hate to

fly, and 20-odd hours is definitely too much. It would be something to see,

though, and I know I should take a free trip, but I think I'd go crazy for

that many hours in an airplane.

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/4/01 8:04:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

jshouse@... writes:

>

>

> Our son suffered for months with reflux; I was not breastfeeding, so

> we used Nutramagen formula and Tagamet. It helped some, but did not

> cure the problem. But I thought your friend might be interested in

> Web site on reflux: http://www.reflux.org/

>

> Maybe she can something helpful there.

>

did this child cough a lot, or clear his throat a lot?

[Guest guest]

Our son suffered for months with reflux; I was not breastfeeding, so

we used Nutramagen formula and Tagamet. It helped some, but did not

cure the problem. But I thought your friend might be interested in

Web site on reflux: http://www.reflux.org/

Maybe she can something helpful there.

Janet

[Guest guest]

If your son has reflux during chelation, try assorted medications or

simply antacids to control it.

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I don't think that too much acid is the cause of reflux or that

antacids are a proper treatment. I can't remember the main cause, but not

drinking liquids with meals helps many. Drink liquids well before meals. Not

during.

Bernie

[Guest guest]

The cause of reflux is that the flap (sorry I don't remember the more

technical terms) that opens (to let food down) and closes (to keep stomach

juices, including acid down) is defective and allows stomach acids up the

esophogus. The antacids don't help the reflux, but they can help to defray

the possible damage that the stomach acids can do to the esophogus and also

make one feel better. At least this is what they told me at s Hopkins.

-Phyllis

[ ] re: reflux

> If your son has reflux during chelation, try assorted medications or

> simply antacids to control it.

> ******************************

> I don't think that too much acid is the cause of reflux or

that antacids are a proper treatment. I can't remember the main cause, but

not drinking liquids with meals helps many. Drink liquids well before

meals. Not during.

> Bernie

>

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Has anyon'e RS daughter used bethanechol chloride for treatment of

reflux. Vic

*********************

I'm not familar with this but low stomach acid is often the cause of

reflux

according to Dr. . He recommends Betaine hydrochloride and

pepsin. Vitamin Research Products has a product called Gastric Aid that is

used for this condition and often works. www.vrpcentral.net or

800-877-2447

Bernie

[Guest guest]

Hi All-

Does Pepcid AC work for middle of the night reflux as well?

mom to Dean (autism)

Bernie Windham wrote:

> Has anyon'e RS daughter used bethanechol chloride for treatment of

> reflux. Vic

> *********************

> I'm not familar with this but low stomach acid is often the cause of

reflux

> according to Dr. . He recommends Betaine hydrochloride and

pepsin. Vitamin Research Products has a product called Gastric Aid that is

used for this condition and often works. www.vrpcentral.net or

800-877-2447

> Bernie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow. I wonder if the fact that they used antibiotics to kill the h. pylori

had anything to do with the fact that it did not help the gerd. It is my

understanding that bismuth works. I suspect that tho antibiotics kill the h

pylori you don't get relief from the acid reflux, probably because of the

detrimental effects on the bowel enviroment.

Just guessing

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Is Helicobacter pylori eradication associated with

gastroesophageal reflux disease?

snip

the incidence

of new GERD-type symptoms or endoscopic esophagitis

was greater in patients in whom successful eradication

was achieved.

[Guest guest]

for H. pylori, have you checked out Mastica? Mastic gum, see google.com

Re: reflux

Wow. I wonder if the fact that they used antibiotics to kill the h. pylori

had anything to do with the fact that it did not help the gerd. It is my

understanding that bismuth works. I suspect that tho antibiotics kill the h

pylori you don't get relief from the acid reflux, probably because of the

detrimental effects on the bowel enviroment.

Just guessing

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Is Helicobacter pylori eradication associated with

gastroesophageal reflux disease?

snip

the incidence

of new GERD-type symptoms or endoscopic esophagitis

was greater in patients in whom successful eradication

was achieved.

[Guest guest]

Apparently you aren't buying his warning: " Here's the kicker:

if you 'kill it off' (using antacids, acid blockers, etc.) the body,

in its wisdom, saves the energy required to protect the

esophagus from the stomach's (normally) more acid

environment and weakens the GE sphincter. " etc., etc.

I take Prilosec which solved my problem immediately,

but that's because I'm too darned lazy and unimaginative to

try a natural approach. I wanted an instant fix and got it.

I wonder what Nexium and Prilosec will do to us all in the

long run? I honestly don't have the answer, but logic

tells me I should check it out.

Ellen

rheumatic Reflux

> Hi

> One of the important areas of treating a disease is understanding the

> problems that arise with it and also understanding the workings of

> the problems-- otherwise how else to effectively treat the problem ---

> in systemic scleroderma reflux very often becomes a serious problem

> unchecked it can lead to serious esophageal problems --now why the

> reflux problem in scleroderma --one of the reasons is the so-called

> trap door in the article gets overgrown with collagen rendering it

> useless --all the enzymes and acidolphillus in the world isnt going

> to correct the acid produced from backing up !!!!!! The goal is

> stopping the Acid production--within one week my severe problem was

> gone --never to return ---its called the little purple pil Nexium --

> for me it was magic --I am back to eating everything and just take

> the one pill a day for it ---The acidolphillus is still taken {7

> capsules a day} thats for yeast control ----------knowing and

> understanding your disease is the most important thing one can do -in

> order to figure out how best to overcome symptoms --Afraid the

> article took a very simplistic and narrow naive viewpoint --lots of

> good medicine out there mixed in with the bad --we just have to sort

> it out

> Richie Stone

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> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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[Guest guest]

has reflux. He's been on Zantac since he was 7 weeks old and I took

him to a ped GI last month. It does make repo more challenging because the

tummy time would aggravate his reflux when he was younger. Fortunately,

he's doing a lot better since the GI doc had us give the Zantac 3x/day. Let

me know if you have any other questions!

Cory, mom to

5 months, casting tomorrow, in OK

[Guest guest]

Hi =)

My 5 1/2 month old son, Connor, has severe silent reflux and is taking nexium (the zantac did nothing but make him groggy and slow down his development as a result).

I did some reading about the "head tilt" being part of the reflux, in turn causing positional plagio... which is the journey we are just now embarking on... my doctor is a little slower when it comes to this then I would prefer her to be. I am still waiting on my first referral to the physiotherapist.

I was wondering if this applied to you as well?

Ali

Re: Reflux

has reflux. He's been on Zantac since he was 7 weeks old and I tookhim to a ped GI last month. It does make repo more challenging because thetummy time would aggravate his reflux when he was younger. Fortunately,he's doing a lot better since the GI doc had us give the Zantac 3x/day. Letme know if you have any other questions!Cory, mom to 5 months, casting tomorrow, in OKFor more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Aidan did but he had outgrown it by 6 months.

natasha

> I was wondering if anyone elses Plagio baby has/had reflux like

mine?

[Guest guest]

Hi there and welcome to the group. I'm not sure if I had welcomed

you already, so I just did it now. lol My daughter had reflux BAD,

it was not caused by the plagio nor did it contribute to her Scaphy

headshape. It actually wasn't discovered until the day we were

leaving the hospital with her and all I did was give her some drops

before EVERY bottle and eventually, I winged her off and she has done

fine ever since. Does you baby have reflux bad? Did they give you

anything for it?

Dustie, mom to

> I was wondering if anyone elses Plagio baby has/had reflux like

mine?

[Guest guest]

Hi & welcome to our group:

Check out our " Polls " section, toward the bottom, we created a poll

question about this in May 2002. I'll copy & paste the poll results

below for you too for quick reference.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

p.s. My plagio daughter did not have reflux.

>>Question

Did your baby have reflux (GER) or another type of illness that

required him/her to sleep in a specific position or upright?

Reflux - slept upright

Reflux - slept in a specified position

Other illnes - slept upright

Other illness - slept in a specified position

You can change your vote until the moderator concludes this poll.

Responses

Choices Votes % 24 replies Respondents

Reflux - slept upright 12 50.00% a.m.cameron@...

kristine@...

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Reflux - slept in a specified position 3 12.50%

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Other illnes - slept upright 5 20.83% misalynn@...

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Other illness - slept in a specified position 4 16.67%

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