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Dear Emma,

I'm so sorry to hear of your awful experience with IVIG. I am the person who

responded that I had been receiving it for 12 years, and it had worked wonders

for me. I am so sorry if my experience affected your decision.

Could you tell me which brand of IVIG you had? I want to be sure to avoid it

in the future. I have found differences between the brands.

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Dear Emma,

I'm so sorry to hear of your awful experience with IVIG. I am the person who

responded that I had been receiving it for 12 years, and it had worked wonders

for me. I am so sorry if my experience affected your decision.

Could you tell me which brand of IVIG you had? I want to be sure to avoid it

in the future. I have found differences between the brands.

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It was Gammagard SD by Baxter. It was a high dose and fast infusion rate- 60

grams in three hours, 2 days in a row, and I was a bit dehydrated. I also read

that aseptic meningitis occurs mostly in people with a history of migraine,

which I have. Glad it has worked for you, and hope it continues to!

Emma

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When I was on IVIG I got 30 grams over a course of 6-8 hours, every three weeks.

If my insurance would pay for it again, the dr told me he would give me 10 grams

every week for three weeks and then get a break--not sure for how long. My dr

was excellent with administering the IVIG in his office and do it slowly so the

reaction would not be as severe. I'd end up in the hospital too if I had it

like it was given to you!

Carol E from NY

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Wow, that sounds like a lot really fast. I get 45 grams over 12 hours once

every 4 weeks. I think if I got it in 3 or 4 hours, I would end up in the

hospital too.

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Is this IVIG the same drug as Octagan...........the IV drug immuglobulin?

Lynn S ( SD for 6 years)

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It was Gammagard SD by Baxter. It was a high dose and fast infusion rate- 60

grams in three hours, 2 days in a row, and I was a bit dehydrated. I also

read

that aseptic meningitis occurs mostly in people with a history of migraine,

which I have. Glad it has worked for you, and hope it continues to!

Emma

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It was Gammagard SD by Baxter. It was a high dose and fast infusion rate- 60

grams in three hours, 2 days in a row, and I was a bit dehydrated. I also

read

that aseptic meningitis occurs mostly in people with a history of migraine,

which I have. Glad it has worked for you, and hope it continues to!

Emma

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Dear Emma

Just googled IVIG and it is the same immuglobulin I have been receiving for

a year now every 3 months .and have been suffering from the same aspetic

mengatisis ..it is awful I really suffer with it, I have total 90grams

of octagan spread over 3 days in hospital. Which is 30 grams a day over a

period 6 hrs.............

I AM HAPPY I have found some one else who has the same side effects,FROM THE

ivig AS THE DRS JUST SAY IT IS ONE OF THE SIDE FFECTS AND JUST DO NOT SAY

MUCH AS THEY DONT HAVE THE PROBLEMS WITH OTHER PATIENTS ON IT AND SEND ME

HOME,. THEY SAY IT BETTER I AM SICK IN MY OWN HOME...........I LIVE IN

ENGLAND BTW

I can relate to how awful u must have suffered.........and nothing seems to

help the pain or stop the vomiting. In fact I had my last dose last week.

Then it lasts for 24 hrs and then I am ok.......

24 hrs after the 3rd day the symptons come on....even after strong anti

naeusous medication and tramadol pain killers ,before the symptons come on,

I still end up vomiting and that migrane........

But on the other side of the coin, I have really repeaped the benefits of it

i.e. My mobility has improved tremendously.......as I have severe SD in my

skin and muscles

But after reading up the aspetic menangitis on the net,it mentions

inflamation of the brain, I thnk I will give this treament a miss in future,

and stick to the AP and MTX I have been on for a year.

Lynn S

-- rheumatic IVIG

Dear Friends,

I had asked for advice on IVIG a couple weeks ago. So far I've done only AP

and " alternative " methods. I've been feeling great, perfect, and thought it

very unnecessary to try the IVIG when I was doing so well. Against my best

instincts I had two infusions last week, because insurance authorization for

it was

about to run out. I ended up in the hospital with very severe aseptic

meningitis- temperature on the infusion day was 97, went up to 103 in the

hospital. I

lost 7 pounds in five days and had to have a lumbar puncture. THe meningitis

was the most excruciating pain I've ever had. And now that I'm out, I don't

feel well again, I'm flaring... I ruined my remission with this fiasco...

I just want to reaffirm for every one, if you CAN get away with only the AP

and natural methods, DO it. Don't mess with a good thing or look for a

quicker

fix. I have deep regrets about this incident and feel that I have finally

lost

my innocence as a patient. I wish I could take it back.

Love and health and best wishes to all,

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Hi Carol,

Hope u don't mind me e ialing u direct. I note u also have the IVIG

Do u get the 30g of iv a wek and then 3 weeks later???

I have 30g day run over 6 to 8 hrs of IVIG for 3 days consequtive every 3

months. I live in England so the only IVIG avail is OCTAGAN which is

imported from America anyway. I do suffer after the total of 90 g awful and

get that menagantisis symptoms anyway......nasty vomiting and migrane, do u

not GE these symptoms?

How long have u had this treament> I have had it for a year and rally feel

the benefits in my mobility as I have severe SD in my skin and muscles.

Lynn S from London

-- Re: rheumatic IVIG

When I was on IVIG I got 30 grams over a course of 6-8 hours, every three

weeks. If my insurance would pay for it again, the dr told me he would give

me 10 grams every week for three weeks and then get a break--not sure for

how long. My dr was excellent with administering the IVIG in his office and

do it slowly so the reaction would not be as severe. I'd end up in the

hospital too if I had it like it was given to you!

Carol E from NY

Re: rheumatic IVIG

Wow, that sounds like a lot really fast. I get 45 grams over 12 hours once

every 4 weeks. I think if I got it in 3 or 4 hours, I would end up in the

hospital too.

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I am not the person you were writing to, but I wanted to say I also get the

IVIG and have for 12 years now. It has helped me a lot.

I have found through trial and error that what works best for me is 45 grams

given over 12 hours every 4 weeks. If it is faster than this I get the

headache and sick feeling. I also get benadryl (IM) at the beginning and again 6

hours into the treatment. Then at the end I get a shot of lasix. I also get

another shot of lasix 2 days after the treatment. This method has really

eliminated

the side effects for me.

I have tried doing it over two days and felt awful. I also tried half every

two weeks and felt awful.

The method seems to really affect how I feel afterward.

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Isn't it great that you can nullify pain with these substances? And if that's

the approach that suits you, then so be it - it's your life and you have the

right to do with it what you will. My background affords me the opportunity of

teaching those who come to me with dealing with the causes of symptom complexes

and dealing with those causes as opposed to what you're doing, suppressing the

effects. When causation is removed, if the damage hasn't already become too

servere, the effects will dissipate over time as the body heals itself. This is

an educational process which puts you in control of your own health destiny free

from outside treatments or substances. It's my opinion that if you are an

elderly person that you will probably be better off just continuing with what

you've been doing for twelve years but if you are in your 50s or younger, you

may want to think about taking this, the nutritional approach since it would

probably bode well for better health for many years

to come.

If you would like, email me your regular mailing address and I will send you

some information.

Yours in health,

Jack

njteabag@... wrote:

I am not the person you were writing to, but I wanted to say I also

get the

IVIG and have for 12 years now. It has helped me a lot.

I have found through trial and error that what works best for me is 45 grams

given over 12 hours every 4 weeks. If it is faster than this I get the

headache and sick feeling. I also get benadryl (IM) at the beginning and again 6

hours into the treatment. Then at the end I get a shot of lasix. I also get

another shot of lasix 2 days after the treatment. This method has really

eliminated

the side effects for me.

I have tried doing it over two days and felt awful. I also tried half every

two weeks and felt awful.

The method seems to really affect how I feel afterward.

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Thank you very much for this advise. I will certainly give this regime a

try.....phew what a relief, as I was really not looking forward to my next

treatment.

Blessings

Lynn

-- Re: rheumatic IVIG

I am not the person you were writing to, but I wanted to say I also get the

IVIG and have for 12 years now. It has helped me a lot.

I have found through trial and error that what works best for me is 45 grams

given over 12 hours every 4 weeks. If it is faster than this I get the

headache and sick feeling. I also get benadryl (IM) at the beginning and

again 6

hours into the treatment. Then at the end I get a shot of lasix. I also get

another shot of lasix 2 days after the treatment. This method has really

eliminated

the side effects for me.

I have tried doing it over two days and felt awful. I also tried half every

two weeks and felt awful.

The method seems to really affect how I feel afterward.

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Here is my address so you can send me information as well.

Josie Bradshaw

908 Forest Hill Ct.

Cedar Hill Tx.75014

Jack <konajacque@...> wrote:

Isn't it great that you can nullify pain with these substances? And if that's

the approach that suits you, then so be it - it's your life and you have the

right to do with it what you will. My background affords me the opportunity of

teaching those who come to me with dealing with the causes of symptom complexes

and dealing with those causes as opposed to what you're doing, suppressing the

effects. When causation is removed, if the damage hasn't already become too

servere, the effects will dissipate over time as the body heals itself. This is

an educational process which puts you in control of your own health destiny free

from outside treatments or substances. It's my opinion that if you are an

elderly person that you will probably be better off just continuing with what

you've been doing for twelve years but if you are in your 50s or younger, you

may want to think about taking this, the nutritional approach since it would

probably bode well for better health for many

years

to come.

If you would like, email me your regular mailing address and I will send you

some information.

Yours in health,

Jack

njteabag@... wrote:

I am not the person you were writing to, but I wanted to say I also get the

IVIG and have for 12 years now. It has helped me a lot.

I have found through trial and error that what works best for me is 45 grams

given over 12 hours every 4 weeks. If it is faster than this I get the

headache and sick feeling. I also get benadryl (IM) at the beginning and again 6

hours into the treatment. Then at the end I get a shot of lasix. I also get

another shot of lasix 2 days after the treatment. This method has really

eliminated

the side effects for me.

I have tried doing it over two days and felt awful. I also tried half every

two weeks and felt awful.

The method seems to really affect how I feel afterward.

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Hi, I would like some more info.... Thanks sooo much....

Re: rheumatic IVIG

Isn't it great that you can nullify pain with these substances? And if that's

the approach that suits you, then so be it - it's your life and you have the

right to do with it what you will. My background affords me the opportunity of

teaching those who come to me with dealing with the causes of symptom complexes

and dealing with those causes as opposed to what you're doing, suppressing the

effects. When causation is removed, if the damage hasn't already become too

servere, the effects will dissipate over time as the body heals itself. This is

an educational process which puts you in control of your own health destiny free

from outside treatments or substances. It's my opinion that if you are an

elderly person that you will probably be better off just continuing with what

you've been doing for twelve years but if you are in your 50s or younger, you

may want to think about taking this, the nutritional approach since it would

probably bode well for better health for many years

to come.

If you would like, email me your regular mailing address and I will send you

some information.

Yours in health,

Jack

njteabag@... wrote:

I am not the person you were writing to, but I wanted to say I also get the

IVIG and have for 12 years now. It has helped me a lot.

I have found through trial and error that what works best for me is 45 grams

given over 12 hours every 4 weeks. If it is faster than this I get the

headache and sick feeling. I also get benadryl (IM) at the beginning and again

6

hours into the treatment. Then at the end I get a shot of lasix. I also get

another shot of lasix 2 days after the treatment. This method has really

eliminated

the side effects for me.

I have tried doing it over two days and felt awful. I also tried half every

two weeks and felt awful.

The method seems to really affect how I feel afterward.

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Hi Lynn--sorry I haven't answered you sooner. Working and being sick and going

to drs takes up A LOT of time! Anyway, I only took the IVIG for 18 months--I

went for one day every 3 weeks to my dr's office and he administered 30 grams to

me during a 6-8 hr period. I think the fikrst two or three sessions he may have

done 40 grams but that was too much for my body to handle--got fever, chills,

headaches, and diarrhea. Even the 30 grams wasn't so great but I handled it

better. Sometimes I handled it better than others. Sometimes I got GI upset

from the Gamma. I don't recall the brand. He administered to me bec I had too

much IVIG in my body probably due to lupus and Sjogren's and indeed my numbers

have gone down to normal or close to normal. But I stopped the treatment afgter

18 months because I was in a flare from hell and didn't think the IVIG was

working on me much anymore. When I wanted to try it again, I've run into

insurance problems and that dr who was treating me isn't on my insurance anymore

:( Even if my ins approved I don't know if I'd trust another dr to do it so

carefully I don't think my body could handle 90 grams of IVIG over three days

but everyone is different! Most of the other people who took the IVIG with me

on a Sat int he drs office got larger doses and did it quickly and without

reactions.

Do you know if you have low or high IgG counts? My immunologist/allergist who

administered the IVIG treated many autoimmune conditions with the IVIG.

Carol E from NY

Re: rheumatic IVIG

Wow, that sounds like a lot really fast. I get 45 grams over 12 hours once

every 4 weeks. I think if I got it in 3 or 4 hours, I would end up in the

hospital too.

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>

> I'm wondering if people have an opinion about the blood plasma called

> Gamma Guard Liquid? I saw posts about Gamunex 10%. We were told that

> my daughter would be infused with Gamma Guard Liquid, and I would like

> to hear any experience from other's on the board...

I don't know if the IVIG from this story is the same as you are

referencing, but you can read and see if it is

http://www.tacanow.com/pdf/autism2.pdf

Dana

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itsallaboutkreed@... wrote:

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>

> Hospitals can be so frustrating!

Make sure that your ordering doctor knows what is going on and

understand's his need for a specific brand. It's well documented in the

literature but your doctor must order that specific brand and state that

no other brand can be substituted. He should be notified about the

reactions that you saw and let him do the checking as to what he

received. It is vitally important that you record the brand, amount and

lot number from each infusion. I know that that's hard to get from a

hospital pharmacy, but it's so important that you may need to get your

doctor to order them to release the information to you.

Sorry this is happening, hope you can get your product soon.

In His service,

dale

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Carie,

Can they not ship the correct brand overnight? Ours always comes overnight.

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itsallaboutkreed@... wrote:

Hospitals can be so frustrating! I went to do my IVIG infusion for my

son. I made sure last month that they had his brand for next time, and they said

they had enough for 2 more months. I went today and of course they had none! He

is brand intolerant, so he does not switch brands easy. The pharmacy tried to

make me though. They swore he had used the other brand, he has not, but now I am

thinking maybe they switched it without telling me last time even though we

confirmed it. It came in another bottle, and the label was cut off,so it was

hard to tell if it was correct or not. My nurse called the pharmacy and they

said it was correct, now I am wondering if that is true or not. My son's blood

pressure dropped to 80/60, and he had a really hard time. He was out of it all

day, and threw up right when we got home. He has never had a reaction to his

correct brand only other brands. I was very upset and frustrated to be sent home

due to the pharmacy's error. Now my son

will have to go 5 weeks, and this is way past when he is due.

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My kids only can take gammagard. Each of the three bottles comes with

a giant red sticker that says, " NAME ALERT " so everyone involves

double checks that it is correct.

I would be FUMING if someone pulled a switcheroo on me. I wonder if

there is any way you can find out if they did that or not.

valarie

In , Dale Weatherford <dale@...> wrote:

>

> itsallaboutkreed@... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hospitals can be so frustrating!

>

> Make sure that your ordering doctor knows what is going on and

> understand's his need for a specific brand. It's well documented in

the

> literature but your doctor must order that specific brand and state

that

> no other brand can be substituted. He should be notified about the

> reactions that you saw and let him do the checking as to what he

> received. It is vitally important that you record the brand, amount

and

> lot number from each infusion. I know that that's hard to get from a

> hospital pharmacy, but it's so important that you may need to get your

> doctor to order them to release the information to you.

>

> Sorry this is happening, hope you can get your product soon.

>

> In His service,

> dale

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apparently not.

---- Rob or Sunseri <RobRose@...> wrote:

> Carie,

>

> Can they not ship the correct brand overnight? Ours always comes overnight.

>

> -

>

> itsallaboutkreed@... wrote:

> Hospitals can be so frustrating! I went to do my IVIG infusion for

my son. I made sure last month that they had his brand for next time, and they

said they had enough for 2 more months. I went today and of course they had

none! He is brand intolerant, so he does not switch brands easy. The pharmacy

tried to make me though. They swore he had used the other brand, he has not, but

now I am thinking maybe they switched it without telling me last time even

though we confirmed it. It came in another bottle, and the label was cut off,so

it was hard to tell if it was correct or not. My nurse called the pharmacy and

they said it was correct, now I am wondering if that is true or not. My son's

blood pressure dropped to 80/60, and he had a really hard time. He was out of it

all day, and threw up right when we got home. He has never had a reaction to his

correct brand only other brands. I was very upset and frustrated to be sent home

due to the pharmacy's error. Now my son

> will have to go 5 weeks, and this is way past when he is due.

>

>

>

>

>

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Why? would be my first question.

There is a possiblity of reaction in that the body will reject this

foreing immunoglobulin. Why not do supplements that boost immune

function? Treat things like yeast/viruses? Maybe chelate if he has

metals so his immune system can work properly.

This is a very expensive suggestion and needs real justification

before one does this.

-- In , " laurellar " <rlaurella@...>

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> Our DAN! is recommending IVIG therapy for our 7 yr old son. Does

> anyone have any experience with this therapy? Your comments would

be

> appreciated.

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We have two infusions worth of experience with IVIG. Our third round is Friday.

Feel free to e-mail me offline for specifics. There is a woman named Pramilla

(spelling?) who has a blog which talks about her experience with IVIG as well.

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One of the biggest problems with IVIG are occasional shortages - most of the stuff, I understand, comes from overseas (Europe, I believe) and sometimes there is simply not enough - Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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