Guest guest Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hi Gretchen, We are new to but have an appointment with Dr G in May. His office requested us to do the SPECT scan because we have done chelation in the past. The other criteria for SPECT scan was HBOT. Hope this helps. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Colon, Gretchen Sent: 03 April 2011 08:32 PM Subject: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Hi, I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue to have to take SSRIs? I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do you know which type of kids do or don't? I would really appreciate your feedback! Thanks, Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Gretchen - I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids I¹m not sure..... Laureen On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue > to have to take SSRIs? > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do > you know which type of kids do or don't? > I would really appreciate your feedback! > Thanks, > Gretchen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thanks Laureen do you know if all kids have to have the ssri's in his protocol no exception? ________________________________ From: < > < > Sent: Tue Apr 05 22:02:21 2011 Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Gretchen - I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids  I¹m not sure..... Laureen On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue > to have to take SSRIs? > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do > you know which type of kids do or don't? > I would really appreciate your feedback! > Thanks, > Gretchen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Hi Gretchen, Make sure you understand and question Dr G on how treatment would differ based on the tests he orders. Sometime I feel his passion to prove that DAN treatments are wrong takes higher precedence. Good luck. ________________________________ From: <evelyng@...> Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 7:54:07 AM Subject: RE: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Hi Gretchen, We are new to but have an appointment with Dr G in May. His office requested us to do the SPECT scan because we have done chelation in the past. The other criteria for SPECT scan was HBOT. Hope this helps. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Colon, Gretchen Sent: 03 April 2011 08:32 PM Subject: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Hi, I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue to have to take SSRIs? I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do you know which type of kids do or don't? I would really appreciate your feedback! Thanks, Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I was very anxious about starting my kids on SSRIs because of my very negative experiences with them. I was pretty much a no-meds kind of girl before (and experiencing the benefit of antibiotics myself after years of refusing to take them unless I was extremely sick). We went almost a year before we started them. I wouldn't say there's no exception, but he would urge you to do it because he believes it is extremely important and protective for your kid. And the way he goes about starting out doses generally makes it a much easier experience. So many parents have been just terrified of it and ended up being so happy that they were willing to try with their kids - more than those who have a very rough time with them. My kids did quite well on them, especially the first two. The only ones I remember being a bad experience was celexa and lexapro, but those weren't that awful - just not what we wanted. There's a lot of studies - probably be able to find some of them in the files - that show the neuroprotective benefits of SSRIs, and perhaps even more important from the standpoint, some immune modulation in the brain. Then, the studies and countless other NeuroSPECT scans (not done so often these days) showed the SSRIs literally increasing bloodflow to the temporal and frontal lobes of the brain where it was diminshed. Trust me, I understand that they're very scarey, especially if you lost faith in mainstream medicine and had tons of bad drug reactions like I did. And yes, a few parents have a really rough time getting them started and getting the right balance. But Dr G says if you had access to no other care, your kid can still do better than many kids having tons of therapies and supplements and other treatments just by being on the diet and a low dose of SSRI. He's observed it, he's compared it in scans. He rarely orders scans anymore, but if you really want to drop $2000+ and try to get your kid to be still enough for almost an hour, plus I think have the contrast stuff injected (I could be wrong) he'd probably refer you. It seems like he orders them more often for people traveling from other countries, possibly because to have them come back a year or two later to do it if he isn't seeing the progress he's looking for would be so much more costly than someone in the US or Canada. Significant seizure disorders may be another reason. HTH ________________________________ From: " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@...> Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 9:05:04 PM Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids  Thanks Laureen do you know if all kids have to have the ssri's in his protocol no exception? ________________________________ From: < > < > Sent: Tue Apr 05 22:02:21 2011 Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Gretchen - I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids  I¹m not sure..... Laureen On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue > to have to take SSRIs? > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do > you know which type of kids do or don't? > I would really appreciate your feedback! > Thanks, > Gretchen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Just to chime in here, the SSRI (celexa) we have been on for my 4 year old son has been nothing short of a miracle! We have only been at the protocol for 5 months and the change is so astonishing! Many Thanks, | CTO The Testing Group Office 818.241.7373 Ext. 2244 - Cell 818.414.8577 1265 Los Angeles St., Suite #200 Glendale, CA 91204 On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:56 PM, <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > I was very anxious about starting my kids on SSRIs because of my very negative > experiences with them. I was pretty much a no-meds kind of girl before > (and experiencing the benefit of antibiotics myself after years of refusing to > take them unless I was extremely sick). We went almost a year before we started > them. I wouldn't say there's no exception, but he would urge you to do it > because he believes it is extremely important and protective for your kid. And > the way he goes about starting out doses generally makes it a much easier > experience. So many parents have been just terrified of it and ended up being > so happy that they were willing to try with their kids - more than those who > have a very rough time with them. > > My kids did quite well on them, especially the first two. The only ones I > remember being a bad experience was celexa and lexapro, but those weren't that > awful - just not what we wanted. > > There's a lot of studies - probably be able to find some of them in the > files - that show the neuroprotective benefits of SSRIs, and perhaps even more > important from the standpoint, some immune modulation in the brain. Then, > the studies and countless other NeuroSPECT scans (not done so often these days) > showed the SSRIs literally increasing bloodflow to the temporal and frontal > lobes of the brain where it was diminshed. > > Trust me, I understand that they're very scarey, especially if you lost faith in > mainstream medicine and had tons of bad drug reactions like I did. And yes, a > few parents have a really rough time getting them started and getting the right > balance. But Dr G says if you had access to no other care, your kid can still > do better than many kids having tons of therapies and supplements and other > treatments just by being on the diet and a low dose of SSRI. He's observed > it, he's compared it in scans. > > He rarely orders scans anymore, but if you really want to drop $2000+ and try to > get your kid to be still enough for almost an hour, plus I think have the > contrast stuff injected (I could be wrong) he'd probably refer you. It seems > like he orders them more often for people traveling from other countries, > possibly because to have them come back a year or two later to do it if he isn't > seeing the progress he's looking for would be so much more costly than someone > in the US or Canada. Significant seizure disorders may be another reason. > > HTH > > > ________________________________ > From: " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@...> > > Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 9:05:04 PM > Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids > > > Thanks Laureen do you know if all kids have to have the ssri's in his protocol > no exception? > > ________________________________ > > From: < > > < > > Sent: Tue Apr 05 22:02:21 2011 > Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids > > Gretchen - > > I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up > to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. > > As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids I¹m not sure..... > > Laureen > > On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... > <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. > > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue > > to have to take SSRIs? > > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol > > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. > > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do > > you know which type of kids do or don't? > > I would really appreciate your feedback! > > Thanks, > > Gretchen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I echo a lot of what says. I remember reading something about – I think (can’t remember exactly what illness) – breast cancer patients receiving SSRIs because of the immune modulating/protective properties and that really reassured me about having my son on them. Dr. G only uses 4 or 5 of the SSRIs, too. Not all are in the same class and he uses only those that have a specific function. Kristy Nardini Tazzini Stainless Steel Bottles www.tazzini.com kristy@... 858.243.1929 <http://www.facebook.com/tazzinicompany> Find us on Facebook! <http://www.twitter.com/tazzini> Follow us on Twitter! From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids I was very anxious about starting my kids on SSRIs because of my very negative experiences with them. I was pretty much a no-meds kind of girl before (and experiencing the benefit of antibiotics myself after years of refusing to take them unless I was extremely sick). We went almost a year before we started them. I wouldn't say there's no exception, but he would urge you to do it because he believes it is extremely important and protective for your kid. And the way he goes about starting out doses generally makes it a much easier experience. So many parents have been just terrified of it and ended up being so happy that they were willing to try with their kids - more than those who have a very rough time with them. My kids did quite well on them, especially the first two. The only ones I remember being a bad experience was celexa and lexapro, but those weren't that awful - just not what we wanted. There's a lot of studies - probably be able to find some of them in the files - that show the neuroprotective benefits of SSRIs, and perhaps even more important from the standpoint, some immune modulation in the brain. Then, the studies and countless other NeuroSPECT scans (not done so often these days) showed the SSRIs literally increasing bloodflow to the temporal and frontal lobes of the brain where it was diminshed. Trust me, I understand that they're very scarey, especially if you lost faith in mainstream medicine and had tons of bad drug reactions like I did. And yes, a few parents have a really rough time getting them started and getting the right balance. But Dr G says if you had access to no other care, your kid can still do better than many kids having tons of therapies and supplements and other treatments just by being on the diet and a low dose of SSRI. He's observed it, he's compared it in scans. He rarely orders scans anymore, but if you really want to drop $2000+ and try to get your kid to be still enough for almost an hour, plus I think have the contrast stuff injected (I could be wrong) he'd probably refer you. It seems like he orders them more often for people traveling from other countries, possibly because to have them come back a year or two later to do it if he isn't seeing the progress he's looking for would be so much more costly than someone in the US or Canada. Significant seizure disorders may be another reason. HTH ________________________________ From: " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > <mailto:%40> Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 9:05:04 PM Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Thanks Laureen do you know if all kids have to have the ssri's in his protocol no exception? ________________________________ From: <mailto:%40> < <mailto:%40> > <mailto:%40> < <mailto:%40> > Sent: Tue Apr 05 22:02:21 2011 Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Gretchen - I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids  I¹m not sure..... Laureen On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue > to have to take SSRIs? > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do > you know which type of kids do or don't? > I would really appreciate your feedback! > Thanks, > Gretchen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Dr. G. monitors closely while kids are on meds.  My son tried 3 SSRI and benefited from the 4th.  Our parents' " worries " are normal but, when you see improvements on your child, your " worry " of SSRI will go away.  If I resisted medication, I would have deprived a chance of recovery of my son. ________________________________ From: " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 7:05 PM Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids  Thanks Laureen do you know if all kids have to have the ssri's in his protocol no exception? ________________________________ From: < > < > Sent: Tue Apr 05 22:02:21 2011 Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids Gretchen - I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids  I¹m not sure..... Laureen On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue > to have to take SSRIs? > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do > you know which type of kids do or don't? > I would really appreciate your feedback! > Thanks, > Gretchen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 That's a great way to put it for those of us who are worried about SSRI's. I want to give my son that chance. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Lucy Town <lucy1628@...> wrote: > Dr. G. monitors closely while kids are on meds. My son tried 3 SSRI and benefited from the 4th. Our parents' " worries " are normal but, when you see improvements on your child, your " worry " of SSRI will go away. If I resisted medication, I would have deprived a chance of recovery of my son. > > ________________________________ > From: " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@...> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids > > > Thanks Laureen do you know if all kids have to have the ssri's in his protocol no exception? > > ________________________________ > > From: < > > < > > Sent: Tue Apr 05 22:02:21 2011 > Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids > > Gretchen - > > I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up > to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. > > As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids I¹m not sure..... > > Laureen > > On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. > > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru continue > > to have to take SSRIs? > > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's protocol > > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. > > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, do > > you know which type of kids do or don't? > > I would really appreciate your feedback! > > Thanks, > > Gretchen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I don’t know if there is an exception but after reading his book and talking with him about why they are necessary, they make sense as to the reason they are needed. And for my son, the changes were definite and clear in his overall functioning. But, my son is still going to be one of his hardest patients out there – he has a long way to go so no miracles but distinct improvement in all areas. For us, we started with 1/8 of a pill and worked up from there – and it took a year to get to 1 pill. IMHO – it was the best way to monitor changes as well as give my son adjustment time too. Laureen On 4/5/11 7:05 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Laureen do you know if all kids have to have the ssri's in his protocol > no exception? > > ________________________________ > > From: <mailto:%40> > < <mailto:%40> > > <mailto:%40> > < <mailto:%40> > > Sent: Tue Apr 05 22:02:21 2011 > Subject: Re: SSRI's in recovered nids kids > > > > > Gretchen - > > I was worried about the SSRIs too but, he doses low and very slow to get up > to full dose. And, it really makes sense why he uses them. > > As far as long term for the Œrecovered¹ kids  I¹m not sure..... > > Laureen > > On 4/3/11 8:32 PM, " Colon, Gretchen " <Gretchen.Colon@... > <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> <mailto:Gretchen.Colon%40turner.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi, >> > I am very interested in it makes a lot of sense to me. I have read Dr. >> > Golberg's book and wanted to know if the kids that recover thru >> continue >> > to have to take SSRIs? >> > I have a 5 year old boy and this is the only part of Dr. Goldberg's >> protocol >> > that makes me very nervous to give ssri at such an early age. >> > Also, does Dr. Goldberg request that every child get a Neurospect? If not, >> do >> > you know which type of kids do or don't? >> > I would really appreciate your feedback! >> > Thanks, >> > Gretchen >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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