Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 This no whole grains has me confused.....can you give me examples of what foods containing gluten are ok?  Thanks, From: <thecolemans4@...> Subject: Re: diet Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:08 AM  Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy, no whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back then but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit. Those are the highest allergens. The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to the maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no sugar. Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated eosiniphils, very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no corn, etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amount because it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example. It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy, as long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our less sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even cooking in the same toaster for some. Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our kids love them?? That's just not fair. HTH ________________________________ From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...> Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM Subject: diet  I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated. Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Wonderbread Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2011, at 11:27 AM, hildy gogal <hildygogal@...> wrote: This no whole grains has me confused.....can you give me examples of what foods containing gluten are ok? Thanks, From: <thecolemans4@...> Subject: Re: diet Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:08 AM Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy, no whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back then but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit. Those are the highest allergens. The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to the maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no sugar. Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated eosiniphils, very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no corn, etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amount because it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example. It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy, as long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our less sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even cooking in the same toaster for some. Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our kids love them?? That's just not fair. HTH ________________________________ From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...> Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM Subject: diet I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated. Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Wonder bread, regular pasta, white rice. In moderation. Dr G believes that bread should be a vehicle for protein. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2011, at 11:27 AM, hildy gogal <hildygogal@...> wrote: > This no whole grains has me confused.....can you give me examples of what foods containing gluten are ok? > > Thanks, > > > > From: <thecolemans4@...> > Subject: Re: diet > > Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:08 AM > > > > Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy, no > whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back then > but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit. Those are > the highest allergens. > > The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to the > maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no sugar. > > Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated eosiniphils, > very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the > immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no corn, > etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amount because > it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example. > > It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy, as > long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our less > sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even cooking > in the same toaster for some. > > Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our kids love > them?? That's just not fair. > > HTH > > > ________________________________ > From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...> > > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM > Subject: diet > > > I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm > wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy > elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated. > Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except > Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Thank you . > > From: <thecolemans4@...> > Subject: Re: diet > > Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:08 AM > > > > Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy, no > whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back then > but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit. Those are > the highest allergens. > > The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to the > maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no sugar. > > Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated eosiniphils, > very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the > immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no corn, > etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amount because > it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example. > > It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy, as > long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our less > sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even cooking > in the same toaster for some. > > Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our kids love > them?? That's just not fair. > > HTH > > > ________________________________ > From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...> > > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM > Subject: diet > > > I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm > wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy > elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated. > Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except > Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Regarding whole grains: When looking at ingredients checking for whole grain, say in bread for instance, it has to actually say " whole grain wheat flour " . A lot of ingredients will say " wheat flour " but that's not whole grain. No whole wheat bread - use highly processed bread like Wonderbread (whatever that is) and Sunbeam. Wheat germ would be worst of all (and I used to eat that stuff by the cup - you crave what's the worst!) - it's the most allergenic part of wheat. Instant grits (if you're in the south lol) are ok but they're not a grain, they're corn - same with cornmeal (but I can't eat cornmeal but I can eat any other kind of corn). Oats are questionable - it seems like Dr G approves that less and less. I think they qualify under whole grains, but are probably the least allergenic of all of them. We still use oats but in moderation. Cereals are usually packed with whole grains. We used to be able to have cheerios - now we can't because their recipe changed. Rice Krispies are the safest. We get away with corn flakes. Puffed rices are not usually ok - they usually have the whole grain rice. No brown rice - it's whole, but white rice is ok because it's had all the bad stuff scrubbed off. Rice Dream rice milk and ice creams are apparently made with whole grain rice so they're off the list now. I tried to still use it, and found they did give my son circles under his eyes. A lot of the GFCF gluten replacements are big no-no's on the diet because they're mostly alternates but still whole grains. The names don't come to me right now but if you've been GFCF I'm sure you know them. In , it's not about gluten (unless you're a *true* celiac by all testing standards). Of course a very few kids don't react well to gluten being added back to their diet but it's very few, and sometimes they can tolerate it a year later when they couldn't at first. It really just varies. HTH ________________________________ From: hildy gogal <hildygogal@...> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 10:27:49 AM Subject: Re: diet-cynthia  This no whole grains has me confused.....can you give me examples of what foods containing gluten are ok?  Thanks, From: <thecolemans4@...> Subject: Re: diet Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:08 AM  Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy, no whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back then but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit. Those are the highest allergens. The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to the maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no sugar. Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated eosiniphils, very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no corn, etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amount because it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example. It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy, as long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our less sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even cooking in the same toaster for some. Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our kids love them?? That's just not fair. HTH ________________________________ From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...> Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM Subject: diet  I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated. Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is spelt bread is ok? Re: diet-cynthia Regarding whole grains: When looking at ingredients checking for whole grain, say in bread for instance, it has to actually say " whole grain wheat flour " . A lot of ingredients will say " wheat flour " but that's not whole grain. No whole wheat bread - use highly processed bread like Wonderbread (whatever that is) and Sunbeam. Wheat germ would be worst of all (and I used to eat that stuff by the cup - you crave what's the worst!) - it's the most allergenic part of wheat. Instant grits (if you're in the south lol) are ok but they're not a grain, they're corn - same with cornmeal (but I can't eat cornmeal but I can eat any other kind of corn). Oats are questionable - it seems like Dr G approves that less and less. I think they qualify under whole grains, but are probably the least allergenic of all of them. We still use oats but in moderation. Cereals are usually packed with whole grains. We used to be able to have cheerios - now we can't because their recipe changed. Rice Krispies are the safest. We get away with corn flakes. Puffed rices are not usually ok - they usually have the whole grain rice. No brown rice - it's whole, but white rice is ok because it's had all the bad stuff scrubbed off. Rice Dream rice milk and ice creams are apparently made with whole [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I don't think spelt bread is allowed. My impression is the only bread Dr. G allows is generic white bread and very low amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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