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there is also the pear probiotic, needs no refrigeration.

 

Eva

From: Ethel Snooks <emsnooks@...>

Subject: Re: rheumatic ProBiotic

rheumatic

Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:07 PM

, both Dr. and Dr. n Whitaker offer a probiotic

that does not require refrigeration. www.drdavidwilliams .com or

www.drwhitaker. com.

rheumatic ProBiotic

> HOPEFULLY FOR ETHEL!!! My daughter lives in a dorm room without a

> refrigerator and needs her probiotic. Primal Defense is the only

> probiotic I know

> of which does not require refrigeration. Can you give me any other

> specific

> brands which will not ruin if left out. Many thanks.

>

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Florastor is a great probiotic and does not require refrigiration. I Always have

a bottle of this in my purse.

Robbin

From: Ethel Snooks <emsnooksbellsouth (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: rheumatic ProBiotic

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:07 PM

, both Dr. and Dr. n Whitaker offer a probiotic

that does not require refrigeration. www.drdavidwilliams .com or

www.drwhitaker. com.

rheumatic ProBiotic

> HOPEFULLY FOR ETHEL!!! My daughter lives in a dorm room without a

> refrigerator and needs her probiotic. Primal Defense is the only

> probiotic I know

> of which does not require refrigeration. Can you give me any other

> specific

> brands which will not ruin if left out. Many thanks.

>

>

>

> ************ **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial

> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips

> and

> calculators. (http://www.walletpo p.com/?NCID= emlcntuswall0000 0001)

>

>

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> she was on both: antifungal and an antibiotic. do you think its wise

> to give a yeast probiotic and and bacteria probiotic at the same time?

It won't hurt anything, if that's what you're asking . The SB

and any sort of beneficial bacteria will act in different ways. Don't

give SB with an antifungal--that will waste your money. Don't give

probiotics at the same TIME as antibiotics, but IME it is best to give

probiotics while you are on antibiotics. Problem is, if you are on

antibiotics the yeast will take advantage. If you're on antifungals,

the bacteria will take advantage. If you're on both at the same time,

the most hardy pathogenic stuff will take advantage. The bad guys are

generally hardier than the good guys, so you really have to do whatever

you can to stack the odds in favour of the good guys.

Anita

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http://www.customprobiotics.com/

CP-1 is what we use and is exactly what you do and dont want

Ev

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From: Arias <thinkingheads@...>

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:36:09 PM

Subject: [ ] Probiotic

I finally know what I need in a probiotic. Can someone suggest one?

I needs to be Lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidobacterium longum. I

need it diary and corn free. It can't have any strep. It can't have

any bromelain. Would this be custom probiotics from Kirknmans?

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Yes, Kyo-dophilus. It contains acidophilus, bifidum, longum and has

potato starch and silica fillers. It is dairy and soy free; the

capsule is gelatin. I usually empty several capsules right into my

son's mouth and he likes it because there is a warm feeling. (I tried

it). It's also quite inexpensive.

>

> I finally know what I need in a probiotic. Can someone suggest one?

>

> I needs to be Lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidobacterium longum. I

> need it diary and corn free. It can't have any strep. It can't have

> any bromelain. Would this be custom probiotics from Kirknmans?

>

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Thanks. Where do you get it?

On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:03 AM, wrote:

> Yes, Kyo-dophilus. It contains acidophilus, bifidum, longum and has

> potato starch and silica fillers. It is dairy and soy free; the

> capsule is gelatin. I usually empty several capsules right into my

> son's mouth and he likes it because there is a warm feeling. (I tried

> it). It's also quite inexpensive.

>

>

> >

> > I finally know what I need in a probiotic. Can someone suggest one?

> >

> > I needs to be Lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidobacterium

> longum. I

> > need it diary and corn free. It can't have any strep. It can't have

> > any bromelain. Would this be custom probiotics from Kirknmans?

> >

>

>

>

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Right here: http://www.vitacost.com/Kyolic-Kyo-Dophilus

> > >

> > > I finally know what I need in a probiotic. Can someone suggest

one?

> > >

> > > I needs to be Lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidobacterium

> > longum. I

> > > need it diary and corn free. It can't have any strep. It can't

have

> > > any bromelain. Would this be custom probiotics from Kirknmans?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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> Hi,

>

> Can anyone recommend a good probiotic. I see a lot of different

types

> in the stores and I was wondering which ones are of high quality. In

> addition, Bee seems to recommend one without soy, gluten, dairy,

etc.

> and many of the products have at least one allergen. Any

> recommendations would be great. Thanks!

+++Hi. What is your name? The kind of probiotic depends upon where

you live. I live in Canada, so I buy Trophic Brand Non-Dairy

Acidophilus.

I suggest you post another message with your country in the Subject

Line so other members from your area can help you.

The best, Bee

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> > Hi,

> >

> > Can anyone recommend a good probiotic. I see a lot of different

> types

> > in the stores and I was wondering which ones are of high quality. In

> > addition, Bee seems to recommend one without soy, gluten, dairy,

> etc.

> > and many of the products have at least one allergen. Any

> > recommendations would be great. Thanks!

>

> +++Hi. What is your name? The kind of probiotic depends upon where

> you live. I live in Canada, so I buy Trophic Brand Non-Dairy

> Acidophilus.

>

> I suggest you post another message with your country in the Subject

> Line so other members from your area can help you.

>

> The best, Bee

>

the only good ones that are human based and not made from a plant

derivitive are from www.customprobiotics.com they contain no fos or

any other form of sugar. its an expensive product but just use 1 BABY

spoon scoop a day of the six strain powder and you'll be fine.

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>

> Bee,

>

> Here is the link to the Kirkman Probio Gold probiotic detail.

>

>

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID@186@Product_Group_ID@..\

..

>

> It contains 5 billion L. acidophilus plus other bacteria per capsule. To

reach your recommendation of 10 billion L. acidophilus, then 2 would be taken a

day or does the additional bacteria present effect the dosage?

+++Hi . You shouldn't take that probiotic since it contains " inulin "

which is sugar - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/pre2.php

Just so you know, 1 capsule of that product contains over 20.5 billion, so you

would dump out the capsule and only take less than 1/8th of 1 capsule per dose

(mix it in water to take it).

The best, Bee

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Bee,

That is what I was originally thinking but when I saw it only had 5 billion of

the L. acidophilus which you recommended, I questioned it. I didn't know if the

other bacteria mattered. Thank you for the heads up on the inulin.

[ ] Re: Probiotic

>

> Bee,

>

> Here is the link to the Kirkman Probio Gold probiotic detail.

>

>

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID@186@Product_Group_ID@..\

..

>

> It contains 5 billion L. acidophilus plus other bacteria per capsule. To

reach your recommendation of 10 billion L. acidophilus, then 2 would be taken a

day or does the additional bacteria present effect the dosage?

+++Hi . You shouldn't take that probiotic since it contains " inulin "

which is sugar - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/pre2.php

Just so you know, 1 capsule of that product contains over 20.5 billion, so you

would dump out the capsule and only take less than 1/8th of 1 capsule per dose

(mix it in water to take it).

The best, Bee

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>

> What do we think of this probiotic?

>

> http://tiny.cc/D8KLB

>

> Im just diving into probiotics and am having a hard time. I am in Northwest

Ohio and do a lot of ordering from Vitaglo. Can anyone recommend a brand?

>

++Hi Amy. No that is not a good probiotic since it contains mostly pectin which

is mainly derived from apples. Look for non-dairy acidophilus with 5-6

different kinds of good bacteria in them.

Are you already starting the last step of my program, since it seems to be too

soon.

Bee

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And, I'm not sure the age of your son or the pro-bios you have given, but

under 8-10 yrs old you should do an infant formula.

Here are some good possibilities.

Natren Life Start http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/48483

Nature's Way Primadophilus http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/53885

and this is basically a Pre-biotic

Metagenics Probioplex http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/51917

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@...>wrote:

>

>

>

> On Jun 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, ***GABE*** wrote:

>

> > New here and have a ton of question!

> >

> > I am new to feeding my son for his blood type O. He has always had

> > a hard time taking ANY TYPE of probiotic. Anytime we give him

> > probiotic he cries all day his behavior becomes uncontrollable! I

> > just don't know what to do at this point. We have been seeing a

> > homeopathic and he said he don't need a probiotic right now, but i

> > don't think the right probiotic can only help.

>

> There is likely something in the probiotic mix that disagrees with him.

> Your homeopath is correct though in that a probiotic is less relevant

> than the PRE-biotic.

>

> So I'd try your son on rice bran and plain cooked pumpkin as the pre-

> biotioc.

> Pre-biotics are a prerequisite for any beneficial bacteria to grow

> and make beneficial by-products. You can feed probiotics till you are

> blue in the face but unless there is something in the gut for them to

> eat, called a pre-biotic, they all die anyway.

>

> It is good research that shows the prebiotic is far more relevant

> than the bacterial " pro-biotic " . That ios because you ojnly need ONE

> bacterium of the right kind to be present and they can grow any

> number of mnore of them, PROVIDED the growtghy medium is optimal.

> Bacteria always out-compete each other for whatever growth medium is

> there. Thye beneficial ones like rice bran and

> plain cooked pumpkin.

>

> Once that is established, you can consider looking for a purified

> bifidus culoture prebiotic capsule with no additives.

> Don't use acidophilus containing ones unless milk is very much liked

> by your son's insides.

> Acidophilus is really " Lactobacillus acidophilus and always needs

> milk to survive in the gut. Lactobacillus means milk-eating-bacteria :-)

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

--

Cheers,

Kathy

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Thank you so much for the responds!  I just didn't know what to do!  We have

been trying probiotics for the last 5 years and I have a house full of

supplements I can't use!  My son is 6 years old (Just learning to talk this

year). I really want to try this

Metagenics - Probioplex Intensive Care Bioactive Immunoglobulins & Probiotic

Factors. 

 

Namaste,

I think I am going to try the rice bran, and pumpkin seed, but can you tell me

how long to do this for!  When would be a good time to reintroduce pro-bio or do

I do the pumpkin seed first then pre-bio, then pro-bio???  (I told you had tons

of question). 

  " Perfection Takes Time "

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From: s <responsiblywell@...>

Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 8:30:21 AM

Subject: Re: Probiotic

And, I'm not sure the age of your son or the pro-bios you have given, but

under 8-10 yrs old you should do an infant formula.

Here are some good possibilities.

Natren Life Start http://www.luckyvit amin.com/ item/itemKey/ 48483

Nature's Way Primadophilus http://www.luckyvit amin.com/ item/itemKey/ 53885

and this is basically a Pre-biotic

Metagenics Probioplex http://www.luckyvit amin.com/ item/itemKey/ 51917

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@icehouse .net>wrote:

>

>

>

> On Jun 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, ***GABE*** wrote:

>

> > New here and have a ton of question!

> >

> > I am new to feeding my son for his blood type O. He has always had

> > a hard time taking ANY TYPE of probiotic. Anytime we give him

> > probiotic he cries all day his behavior becomes uncontrollable! I

> > just don't know what to do at this point. We have been seeing a

> > homeopathic and he said he don't need a probiotic right now, but i

> > don't think the right probiotic can only help.

>

> There is likely something in the probiotic mix that disagrees with him.

> Your homeopath is correct though in that a probiotic is less relevant

> than the PRE-biotic.

>

> So I'd try your son on rice bran and plain cooked pumpkin as the pre-

> biotioc.

> Pre-biotics are a prerequisite for any beneficial bacteria to grow

> and make beneficial by-products. You can feed probiotics till you are

> blue in the face but unless there is something in the gut for them to

> eat, called a pre-biotic, they all die anyway.

>

> It is good research that shows the prebiotic is far more relevant

> than the bacterial " pro-biotic " . That ios because you ojnly need ONE

> bacterium of the right kind to be present and they can grow any

> number of mnore of them, PROVIDED the growtghy medium is optimal.

> Bacteria always out-compete each other for whatever growth medium is

> there. Thye beneficial ones like rice bran and

> plain cooked pumpkin.

>

> Once that is established, you can consider looking for a purified

> bifidus culoture prebiotic capsule with no additives.

> Don't use acidophilus containing ones unless milk is very much liked

> by your son's insides.

> Acidophilus is really " Lactobacillus acidophilus and always needs

> milk to survive in the gut. Lactobacillus means milk-eating- bacteria :-)

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

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Kathy

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Try taking the probiotics yourself. Maybe they won't be wasted.

Pre-biotics are ALWAYS good, they should be a continual part of your diet.

And it's pumpkin, like you would make pies with, not pumpkin seed.

You haven't mentioned, what is your son's actual health problem?

Were any of the probiotics you tried for infants?

Kathy

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM, IsRecoveryPossible <nelnjai@...>wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> Thank you so much for the responds! I just didn't know what to do! We

> have been trying probiotics for the last 5 years and I have a house full of

> supplements I can't use! My son is 6 years old (Just learning to talk this

> year). I really want to try this

> Metagenics - Probioplex Intensive Care Bioactive Immunoglobulins &

> Probiotic Factors.

>

> Namaste,

>

> I think I am going to try the rice bran, and pumpkin seed, but can you tell

> me how long to do this for! When would be a good time to reintroduce

> pro-bio or do I do the pumpkin seed first then pre-bio, then pro-bio??? (I

> told you had tons of question).

>

> " Perfection Takes Time "

>

> ________________________________

> From: s <responsiblywell@...<responsiblywell%40gmail.com>

> >

> <%40>

> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 8:30:21 AM

> Subject: Re: Probiotic

>

> And, I'm not sure the age of your son or the pro-bios you have given, but

> under 8-10 yrs old you should do an infant formula.

> Here are some good possibilities.

>

> Natren Life Start http://www.luckyvit amin.com/ item/itemKey/ 48483

>

> Nature's Way Primadophilus http://www.luckyvit amin.com/ item/itemKey/

> 53885

>

> and this is basically a Pre-biotic

> Metagenics Probioplex http://www.luckyvit amin.com/ item/itemKey/ 51917

>

>

> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Irene de Villiers

> <furryboots@icehouse .net>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > On Jun 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, ***GABE*** wrote:

> >

> > > New here and have a ton of question!

> > >

> > > I am new to feeding my son for his blood type O. He has always had

> > > a hard time taking ANY TYPE of probiotic. Anytime we give him

> > > probiotic he cries all day his behavior becomes uncontrollable! I

> > > just don't know what to do at this point. We have been seeing a

> > > homeopathic and he said he don't need a probiotic right now, but i

> > > don't think the right probiotic can only help.

> >

> > There is likely something in the probiotic mix that disagrees with him.

> > Your homeopath is correct though in that a probiotic is less relevant

> > than the PRE-biotic.

> >

> > So I'd try your son on rice bran and plain cooked pumpkin as the pre-

> > biotioc.

> > Pre-biotics are a prerequisite for any beneficial bacteria to grow

> > and make beneficial by-products. You can feed probiotics till you are

> > blue in the face but unless there is something in the gut for them to

> > eat, called a pre-biotic, they all die anyway.

> >

> > It is good research that shows the prebiotic is far more relevant

> > than the bacterial " pro-biotic " . That ios because you ojnly need ONE

> > bacterium of the right kind to be present and they can grow any

> > number of mnore of them, PROVIDED the growtghy medium is optimal.

> > Bacteria always out-compete each other for whatever growth medium is

> > there. Thye beneficial ones like rice bran and

> > plain cooked pumpkin.

> >

> > Once that is established, you can consider looking for a purified

> > bifidus culoture prebiotic capsule with no additives.

> > Don't use acidophilus containing ones unless milk is very much liked

> > by your son's insides.

> > Acidophilus is really " Lactobacillus acidophilus and always needs

> > milk to survive in the gut. Lactobacillus means milk-eating- bacteria :-)

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Irene

> > --

> > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

> > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> > www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

>

> > " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

> >

> >

> >

>

> --

> Cheers,

> Kathy

>

>

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On Jun 4, 2009, at 6:30 AM, s wrote:

> And, I'm not sure the age of your son or the pro-bios you have

> given, but

> under 8-10 yrs old you should do an infant formula.

Why?

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

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On Jun 4, 2009, at 7:53 AM, IsRecoveryPossible wrote:

> I think I am going to try the rice bran, and pumpkin seed

NOT seed!

Plain cooked pumpkin as a vegetable.

And rice bran.

> , but can you tell me how long to do this for!

Till age 100 or so?

It is great for any human.

Rice bran is a super-food, and pumpkin feeds the gut immnune cells

(which is about 80% of them), so both highly beneficial.

> When would be a good time to reintroduce pro-bio

It's optional to add. Old research assumes it needed, but newer

research shows that once the right ENVIRONMENT is established for the

gur bacteria to have food on which they thrive, the gut bacteria

look after themselves and need no replenishing.

Won't hurt to add a few bacteria in a plain capsule formula now and

then as a boost - but NOT with additives.

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

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Baby gut bugs are different that adult gut bugs.

And I don't completely agree that we don't need to add pro-bios. Standard

American food and medical treatment is very damaging to the good bugs.

Yes we need more regular pre-bio foods but for many people would be a great

advantaged to add pro-bios on occasion also.

Kathy

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@...>wrote:

>

>

>

> On Jun 4, 2009, at 6:30 AM, s wrote:

>

> > And, I'm not sure the age of your son or the pro-bios you have

> > given, but

> > under 8-10 yrs old you should do an infant formula.

>

> Why?

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

--

Cheers,

Kathy

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Irene, what is your objection to pumpkin seed? Or did you just mean that it

wasn't useful as a pre or pro biotic? I only object to it when it hasn't been

properly soaked to remove any enzyme inhibitors. It's supposed to be great

against parasites as well as having a healthy oil inside.

Laure

> > I think I am going to try the rice bran, and pumpkin seed

>

> NOT seed!

> Plain cooked pumpkin as a vegetable.

> And rice bran.

>

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According to my experience.

I lean towards where I see the most results, which can also differ from

" research " and can differ between individuals.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@...>wrote:

>

>

>

> On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, s wrote:

>

> > Baby gut bugs are different that adult gut bugs.

>

> According to???

> They are not supposed to be different!

> The butyrate, propionate and acetate and short chain fatty acid

> ratios - that are optimal - are the same at any age.

>

> > And I don't completely agree that we don't need to add pro-bios.

> > Standard

> > American food and medical treatment is very damaging to the good bugs.

>

> I'll grant it helps to use them if you you intentionally destroy them

> with antibiotics, but it is not essential.

> I am not against using them - it's just that the research has proved

> that the pre-biotics is far more relevant to get, and that the right

> bacteria tend to re-establish without help if the pre-biotic is there

> for them to grow on.

>

> The beneficial bacteria are ubiquitous on food and various surfaces

> so they WILL get introduced anyway, via food.

>

> Whether they can then grow into a colony of enough numbers - which

> only needs one to start with, then they double in number every 20

> minutes, so there'd be more than enough within 24 hrs that way

> starting with just one -you do not need millions per day to be

> useful - it ALL depends on the pre-biotics.

>

> You can eat probiotics at billions per meal and it will not help if

> they have nothing to live on :-)

> It is only if they are eating and growing on some suitable food that

> they can make anything beneficial for the body. Being present is not

> by itself beneficial at all. They have to be eating and growing to be

> helpful.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

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On Jun 6, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Laure Haro wrote:

> Irene, what is your objection to pumpkin seed?

As a food none.

> Or did you just mean that it wasn't useful as a pre or pro biotic?

Yes. Sorry to have been unclear, thanks for asking!

Namaste,

Irene

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On Jun 7, 2009, at 5:33 PM, s wrote:

> According to my experience.

I'm sorry but I still do not understand what makes you say baby gut

bugs are different from adult gut bugs (contrary to research findings

when looking at actual bacteria) . Which bacteria did you culture to

see as different?

> I lean towards where I see the most results, which can also differ

> from

> " research " and can differ between individuals.

Results you can " see " , do not tell you about different bacteria:-)

Just about different bacterial foods.

I just hoped you might like to explain what you " saw " to make the claim:

>> On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, s wrote:

>>

>>> Baby gut bugs are different that adult gut bugs.

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

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You're right, I can't say with certainty about different bugs betweeen adult

& child.

I can say, I've seen excellent results from pro-bios. Results vary between

brands and individuals, of course. In general I see better results with

infant formulas on infants.

And I can't argue facts & figures from research, you have the lead there.

I can only go on years of experience.

All that said I'm with you 100% that pre-bios are excellent. They aren't

very abundant in the modern American diet.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@...>wrote:

>

>

>

> On Jun 7, 2009, at 5:33 PM, s wrote:

>

> > According to my experience.

>

> I'm sorry but I still do not understand what makes you say baby gut

> bugs are different from adult gut bugs (contrary to research findings

> when looking at actual bacteria) . Which bacteria did you culture to

> see as different?

>

> > I lean towards where I see the most results, which can also differ

> > from

> > " research " and can differ between individuals.

>

> Results you can " see " , do not tell you about different bacteria:-)

> Just about different bacterial foods.

> I just hoped you might like to explain what you " saw " to make the claim:

>

> >> On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, s wrote:

> >>

> >>> Baby gut bugs are different that adult gut bugs.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

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Cheers,

Kathy

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Would one or both of you say more about good prebiotics? There must be more than

just rice bran and pumpkin. Fresh pumpkin is only available in the fall and I

have not been able to find organic rice bran. What can I use that is fresh,

organic, and readily, and preferably locally, available?

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From: s <responsiblywell@...>

Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 5:23:59 AM

Subject: Re: Probiotic

You're right, I can't say with certainty about different bugs betweeen adult

& child.

I can say, I've seen excellent results from pro-bios. Results vary between

brands and individuals, of course. In general I see better results with

infant formulas on infants.

And I can't argue facts & figures from research, you have the lead there.

I can only go on years of experience.

All that said I'm with you 100% that pre-bios are excellent. They aren't

very abundant in the modern American diet.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@icehouse .net>wrote:

>

>

>

> On Jun 7, 2009, at 5:33 PM, s wrote:

>

> > According to my experience.

>

> I'm sorry but I still do not understand what makes you say baby gut

> bugs are different from adult gut bugs (contrary to research findings

> when looking at actual bacteria) . Which bacteria did you culture to

> see as different?

>

> > I lean towards where I see the most results, which can also differ

> > from

> > " research " and can differ between individuals.

>

> Results you can " see " , do not tell you about different bacteria:-)

> Just about different bacterial foods.

> I just hoped you might like to explain what you " saw " to make the claim:

>

> >> On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, s wrote:

> >>

> >>> Baby gut bugs are different that adult gut bugs.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

--

Cheers,

Kathy

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