Introduction

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Pat.

is in the process of setting up some CBT group sessions, it

is a new venture, but I believe it's going to be a great one!

If you are interested please let know, so that she may add

to you to the list of those interested.

You need to let her know what time zone you are in to?

Best Wishes

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I've emailed her w/the info.

Pat

-----Original Message-----From: Withdrawal_and_Recovery [mailto:Withdrawal_and_Recovery ]On Behalf Of sjerromSent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:34 AMTo: Withdrawal_and_Recovery Subject: Re: IntroductionWelcome to the group Pat. is in the process of setting up some CBT group sessions, it is a new venture, but I believe it's going to be a great one!If you are interested please let know, so that she may add to you to the list of those interested.You need to let her know what time zone you are in to?Best Wishes

[Guest guest]

Pat,

I was struck by the wisdom in your post.

" I have read some of the posts and would like to know more about the

CBT groups, as I think it would be helpful to me. I used these

drugs instead of alcohol, sometimes I think, because I could not

accept life on life's terms, and I still have the tendency to want

to always take the easier, softer way. "

Welcome to our culture. Easy, quick fixes are the norm. I, like most

here, have searched long and far for these exact sort of things.

However, one thing I have learned is that beating myself up with

regret for going after the quick fixes does absolutely nothing and

is counterproductive. I would rather think of my experiences with

psychiatric drugs as well as alcohol as being a learning experience.

I don't think without them I could have gotten to be the person I am

today.

Furthermore, without these experiences I wouldn't have given myself

the opportunities to really explore the meaning of true health.

Sure, it sucks that we have to continue to suffer thanks to ill-

informed doctors and our own willingness to find the quick fix, but

maybe in the process of getting healthy we can alert others and save

them from the same torment we are having to go through. God has a

plan. Be well,

Casey

[Guest guest]

Pat, Welcome to the group. You will find lots of support and encouragement here. You will also learn alot about nutrition and supplements that could very well help you with your withdrawal. This group has helped me immensely. One year ago I was taking over 38+ psych pills a day and now I'm down to only 4 total a day. Thanks to catherine and this group. I am tapering off of Geodon (was 160mg and now I'm at 20mg). In the Month of may I hope to begin my withdrawal off of Klonopin. It's scarey to think about, but with such wonderful people in this group I gain hope and encouragement. I send "warm fuzzies" your way to hug you and welcome you here. Hugs V. To subscribe to our off-topic Social list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ To subscribe to our Truth-in-Health list go to:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/truth-in-health

[Guest guest]

Casey, it is wonderful to have you back!

>

> Pat,

>

> I was struck by the wisdom in your post.

>

> " I have read some of the posts and would like to know more about

the

> CBT groups, as I think it would be helpful to me. I used these

> drugs instead of alcohol, sometimes I think, because I could not

> accept life on life's terms, and I still have the tendency to want

> to always take the easier, softer way. "

>

> Welcome to our culture. Easy, quick fixes are the norm. I, like

most

> here, have searched long and far for these exact sort of things.

> However, one thing I have learned is that beating myself up with

> regret for going after the quick fixes does absolutely nothing and

> is counterproductive. I would rather think of my experiences with

> psychiatric drugs as well as alcohol as being a learning

experience.

> I don't think without them I could have gotten to be the person I

am

> today.

>

> Furthermore, without these experiences I wouldn't have given

myself

> the opportunities to really explore the meaning of true health.

> Sure, it sucks that we have to continue to suffer thanks to ill-

> informed doctors and our own willingness to find the quick fix,

but

> maybe in the process of getting healthy we can alert others and

save

> them from the same torment we are having to go through. God has a

> plan. Be well,

>

> Casey

>

[Guest guest]

Hi .

I am also 32 with 4 kids and suffer from severe

migraines. I am sorry that you are not well. This is

a great group to be in. There are very positive, but

real posts from people who have been to hell and back

with pain. It seems at some of my worst times I have

been able to read a post that really gave me some hope

and helped me feel not so alone.

Welcome

bren

[Guest guest]

Thank you all so much for the warm welcome. It's nice to finally be able to talk

to people that will actually understand. Try as they may, no one in my life

really knows what it's like. Again, thank you all.

in FLorida

[Guest guest]

Bennie Wrote:

I have spoke with many parents who are chronic pain patients with the

same concerns we are expressing. The one thing that stands out with

our children are that they are compassinate and care for others.

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I must say that my twins, especially, want to do anything they can to help me or

take care of me. Collin is so sweet, he'll just come up quietly and just rub my

back softly to try to help me. Miranda too, she has picked up with so much of

the work around the house that I can't do anymore and never complains about it

-- and they're only 9 (10 on Saturday)!

They are very compassinate kids, all of them, but more the twins. I think

because for as far back as they can remember it's been this way, but they do

know it's gotten worse. Thank you for pointing out a positive in this, as some

times I forget to see those.

in FLorida

[Guest guest]

Hi,

After 59 years, I've had it with my mother. She has been living with

me and my kids for over 6 years and her behavior becomes more

intolerable daily. A little background: I'm single and adopted

three kids internationally as a single mom. I was a first-time mom

at 51. I'd always wanted to have kids but I was too afraid I'd be

the kind of parent my mother was/is. My kids are 7, 9 and 13. The

13 year old has been with me for 18 months; she has reactive

attachment disorder and oppositional defiant disorder. If I had

known, I wouldn't have adopted her, but she's mine now. If I had

known the most volatile of personality disorders to place together, I

couldn't have done a better job. My mother hates my daughter and

takes every opportunity to let her know. My mother has always needed

a target. When I was a kid (only child) my cousin lived with us for

awhile until she ran away to get away from my mother. Then, after my

father died and my mother remarried a man with daughter; my

stepsister is a phenomenal person, given the amount of physical,

verbal and emotional abuse she endured from age 9 forward. My mother

was always " good " to me - not particularly physically or verbally

abusive except for the times when she perceived I was rebelling and

then (and to this day) she will say, " I don't know why you hate me so

much. I'm going to get a gun, go into the woods and blow my brains

out. " This, of course, scared me when I was a kid but I came to

realize that for all her threats there was nothing behind it except

manipulation.

She has been physically, emotionally and verbally abusive to my 9

year old as well. My 7 year old is a very adorable, sweet natured,

easy going kid and is the golden child who can do no wrong and is

getting brainwashed that her sisters are the devil incarnate. And

the abuse always occurs when I'm not there. If I walk down the long

driveway to the mailbox, she'll smack one or both of the two older

girls or tell them they're worthless, stupid, ugly.

I need to get her out of my home (yes, it's my home). But each time

I've brought it up, my mother says she's going to call CPS and I'll

never see my children again, that I've stolen all of her money, that

I just throw people away, that she'll have me charged with elder

abuse, etc. And once that happens I have a hard time staying focused

and usually say, " I'm not part of this conversation, " and walk away.

Have any of you had to extricate an elderly parent from your home?

If so, how did you manage it? My mother is 88, has all her

faculties, is healthy and still drives.

Thank you!

Cornelia

[Guest guest]

What is it with Nada's telling us we owe them because they gave birth to us?

I heard that nonstop from my parents. When I lived with her, she would

continually badger me about that and nearly every conversation between us

ended with her saying, " I brought you into this world and I can take you

out! " and me saying " I didn't ask to be born! " and stomping away. I know a

lot of parents say that, but she said it every time we talked and I think

she meant it (shiver shiver).

>

> wow, RAD is a handful to deal with in itself, I can't imagine dealing

> with a bpd mom on top of that. Bless your heart for having to go

> through this but as is often the case with bpd's you are left with no

> other choice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know, I got this all the time too. That, and " after all I've done

for you! " Ummm...you're my MOM, it's all part of the job

description. Sheesh.

> >

> > wow, RAD is a handful to deal with in itself, I can't imagine

dealing

> > with a bpd mom on top of that. Bless your heart for having to go

> > through this but as is often the case with bpd's you are left

with no

> > other choice.

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