Re: Re: raynaud disease

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Hi Marie,

Does the been venom ointment sting when you use it on your skin? Do

you end up with a rash or swelling, like with a regular bee sting?

Can you use it if you are allergic to bees?

thanks!

Suzy

On 7/12/2012 2:22 PM, Marie Benoit

wrote:

 

Did you try the bee venon ointment venex it

melt the biofilm in contact . I do not know wha tis

happenneing for you but if

it would befo rme I would give a try to this

ointment as we know Lyme makes biofilm and biofilm

obture the slow moving vessels partially impairing the

circulation . I trye dit myself for my neck veine and

theone of my husband and it does an diffrence the day

after with our thinking .This providing you are not

allergic to bee pollen

Kindly marie

From:

dingyung49

To:

Lyme_and_Rife

Sent:

Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:22 PM

Subject:

Re: raynaud disease

 

Marie,

While i met slightly colder weather, my color

of foot/hand turns totally dead white. blood

circulation was cut off instantly that I felt

like walking with thick cotton under my foot.

I have wide spread soreness lyme arthritis and

muscle stiffness and pain. I am still keeping

coiling and hope someday i can have some kind

of symptoms relief. Remember long time ago I

saw through you tube a young woman also

showing her white fingure due to lyme. So I am

sure raynaud is lyme related. May be some

herbs or chinese medicine can help me? For now

I am still in the wood looking for miracle

tree. Helen

>

> Helen I ma very sorry to hear you are in

pain ,

> What is Raynaud abotu I am sorry I do nto

know it .

> Most of us uses DMSo for pain . I uses

colemas or liver cleanse the two days diet and

it ideasepears

> Sorry not knowing abotu your symptoms

better

> Kindly marie

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:56 PM

> Subject: raynaud disease

>

>

>  

> Hi, I looked the symptoms of lyme

disease, raynaud was among them. My more than

10 year raynaud discomfort is getting worse. I

have done MMS #1 for more than 8 months, Dr.

Loyd's portocols for many months, Lately I

started coiling from 5 seconds on up to 30

seconds. I did once a week 432 killing lyme

and 832 daily killing bart. I have more

intense pain over my legs lately. I have no

relief of raynaud suffering. wish I know what

bacteria causing raynaud so I can use coil to

treat. Does anyone has this painful illness.

Was told someone got well from antibiotics. I

am not into antibiotics route. hope I can find

some alternative ways to get relief this

terrible symptom. any help will be much

appreciated. Helen

>

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Thanks Marie! I sure hope the NAET starts to help you soon!

Suzy

On 7/14/2012 10:48 AM, Marie Benoit

wrote:

 

HI Suzy ,

I do not know about lazer allergy treatment I

would think that energy treatment are enought

unverifying tha tI would reather tak ea sampl of bee

veneon in t bottle they might have this if they treat

or get it .I am doing the NEAT I tis a real shore and

I see no speicl aimorvement from it I do it anyway as

she told me I was llaergic toevery food assuming that

it may work inside deeplu with no results to began

with an dbecause a treatment I do it thoroughly alway

sto give it a cance ot work bu ti think it is

expensive and frustrating. I would check to make su

reit di dwotk after the treatment before trying

personnally .

Kindly marie

From:

suzy

To:

Lyme_and_Rife

Sent:

Friday, July 13, 2012 12:04 PM

Subject:

Re: Re: raynaud disease

 

Interesting Marie!

I'll have to try doing some laser allergy

treatments for bee stings.

I wonder if I can simply write down bee

allergies on a piece of paper

and hold that while treating myself with the

laser?

love,

Suzy

On

7/13/2012 7:21 AM, Marie Benoit wrote:

 

no you cannot use it if you

are allergic to bees however NAET

treatmetn is able to remove allergy

supposibly in 25 hours .

I am doing so now for others

allergy .

Yes it gets warm but no blist

no swelling but redness for a while

and itis needed to respect the

dosage for abvious reason it is

venon .

From:

suzy mailto:starlark@...

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Sent:

Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:37 PM

Subject:

Re: Re: raynaud

disease

 

Hi Marie,

Does the been venom ointment

sting when you use it on

your skin? Do you end up

with a rash or swelling,

like with a regular bee

sting? Can you use it if you

are allergic to bees?

thanks!

Suzy

On

7/12/2012 2:22 PM, Marie

Benoit wrote:

 

Did you try

the bee venon

ointment venex it

melt the biofilm

in contact . I do

not know wha tis

happenneing for

you but if

it would

befo rme I would

give a try to this

ointment as we

know Lyme makes

biofilm and

biofilm obture the

slow moving

vessels partially

impairing the

circulation . I

trye dit myself

for my neck veine

and theone of my

husband and it

does an diffrence

the day after with

our thinking .This

providing you are

not allergic to

bee pollen

Kindly

marie

From:

dingyung49 mailto:dingyung49@...

To:

Lyme_and_Rife

Sent:

Thursday, July

12, 2012 12:22

PM

Subject:

Re: raynaud

disease

 

Marie,

While i met

slightly

colder

weather, my

color of

foot/hand

turns totally

dead white.

blood

circulation

was cut off

instantly that

I felt like

walking with

thick cotton

under my foot.

I have wide

spread

soreness lyme

arthritis and

muscle

stiffness and

pain. I am

still keeping

coiling and

hope someday i

can have some

kind of

symptoms

relief.

Remember long

time ago I saw

through you

tube a young

woman also

showing her

white fingure

due to lyme.

So I am sure

raynaud is

lyme related.

May be some

herbs or

chinese

medicine can

help me? For

now I am still

in the wood

looking for

miracle tree.

Helen

>

> Helen I

ma very sorry

to hear you

are in pain ,

> What is

Raynaud abotu

I am sorry I

do nto know it

..

> Most of

us uses DMSo

for pain . I

uses colemas

or liver

cleanse the

two days diet

and it

ideasepears

> Sorry not

knowing abotu

your symptoms

better

> Kindly

marie

>

>

>

________________________________

> From:

dingyung49 mailto:dingyung49@...

> To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com

> Sent:

Wednesday,

July 11, 2012

2:56 PM

> Subject:

raynaud

disease

>

>

>  

> Hi, I

looked the

symptoms of

lyme disease,

raynaud was

among them. My

more than 10

year raynaud

discomfort is

getting worse.

I have done

MMS #1 for

more than 8

months, Dr.

Loyd's

portocols for

many months,

Lately I

started

coiling from 5

seconds on up

to 30 seconds.

I did once a

week 432

killing lyme

and 832 daily

killing bart.

I have more

intense pain

over my legs

lately. I have

no relief of

raynaud

suffering.

wish I know

what bacteria

causing

raynaud so I

can use coil

to treat. Does

anyone has

this painful

illness. Was

told someone

got well from

antibiotics. I

am not into

antibiotics

route. hope I

can find some

alternative

ways to get

relief this

terrible

symptom. any

help will be

much

appreciated.

Helen

>

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Hi Suzy ,

did you get the info on the bee venon or not Iposted it andmay be I deleted on my email as I delet my own posting le tm eknow if it di dnto pop up

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: raynaud disease

Thanks ,You're an amazing wealth of new information! I would LOVE to get over my bee allergy, and Marie's bee venom cream also sounds interesting to try, that is, if I wasn't in danger of breaking out in hives all over. I'll look into getting a vial of the bee venom, or perhaps I could simply put a dead bee into a little jar and work with that? I'm on the low budget, do it yrself life style;")) LOL!warmly,Suzy

Hi Suzy,I would do some laser allergy treatments on bee venom, but be careful to wrap your vial in a small piece of fabric before coming in contact with it as if you get anaphalaxis from it you will set it off holding the vial. What a NAET practitioner will do with anything that causes Anaphalaxis is they will either use a surrogate ( another individual to hold the vial while they keep in contact with your body) or they will wrap the substance in several layers of fabric and when the body's reaction tends to wain, they will unwrap the vial until it is eventually safe to hold it. I do think if you work very hard with the laser and move the substance from the crown chakra and then down your spine and continue to laser your ears, hands and feet, you can get rid of the allergy, but if you are planning to use the Klinghardt protocol of Bee Venom injections, I would agree with Marie and go to a NAET practitioner for this one substance just

to make sure you have someone that knows how to test you to make sure you are clear. I would then have your doctor do an allergy blood test on bee venom before starting treatment.> >>>> >>> Helen I ma very sorry to hear you are in pain ,> >>> What is Raynaud abotu I am sorry I do nto know it .> >>> Most of us uses DMSo for

pain . I uses colemas or liver cleanse the two days diet and it ideasepears > >>> Sorry not knowing abotu your symptoms better > >>> Kindly marie > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________> >>> From: dingyung49 mailto:dingyung49@> >>> To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:56 PM> >>> Subject: raynaud disease> >>> > >>> > >>>  > >>> Hi, I looked the symptoms of lyme disease,

raynaud was among them. My more than 10 year raynaud discomfort is getting worse. I have done MMS #1 for more than 8 months, Dr. Loyd's portocols for many months, Lately I started coiling from 5 seconds on up to 30 seconds. I did once a week 432 killing lyme and 832 daily killing bart. I have more intense pain over my legs lately. I have no relief of raynaud suffering. wish I know what bacteria causing raynaud so I can use coil to treat. Does anyone has this painful illness. Was told someone got well from antibiotics. I am not into antibiotics route. hope I can find some alternative ways to get relief this terrible symptom. any help will be much appreciated. Helen> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>No virus found in this message.> >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/> >>Version: 2012.0.2195 /

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