Re: No more burbur for me

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HiTry high doeses of Vitamine C. Why is burbur stronger than other anti microbes. Some people use cholestmyne(im not sure the spelling) to detox. This medicine makes me sick, but i was told it used for people who have a hard time dextoxing. The fact that the body has all these mibrobes sounds very shocking, Do certain blood group types have different makes up in regards to microbes i heard negative types have very good immune systems?DamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: healingdance@...Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:17:56 -0700Subject: Re: No more burbur for me

which is why you need to take the detoxing agents all the more.The lightheadedness is likely from the release its a clearing , you actually want this ,but even if you think you cannot tolerate detox, its an absolute must .without detoxing ,the toxins build up far too much and yes eventually they are deadly .Lyme can kill you if you dont detox, its that simple. Toxin overload like you have is what is making you so sick., so you have to detox, even if it makes you lightheaded for a little while.I have never heard of anyone getting lightheaded from alkaseltzer gold but the lightheadedness is the toxins releasing and that is necessary.eventually you wont get that lightheadedness. but maybe only feeling a lightening in the body instead.alkaseltzer gold helps by alkalizing the body .If

the lightheadedness is that bad then just use one tablet to start Very important is to find any way you can to get the toxins out.In the past you mentioned headaches.These headaches are from toxins building up.I know that when a headache finally starts subsiding in me rI feel a bit lightheaded at first.it may feel uncomfortable at first but its part of the process of healing.Most lyme headaches is from the neutrotoxin ammonia that is in your brain , This is what you release when you detox using supplements that can get to the brain .Think about how the body feels when you take a sniff of ammonia when using it to clean.it makes most people lightheaded and feel illanother thing that helps detox ammonia is Source Naturals K mag Kg, an excellent product( I take 2 or 3 tablets at a time when doing my detox regimenThe supplement he gave you is plant based steroids like

cholestapure has .I personally did not find those things helpful, you might find different , but I found them a waste of money for an expensive product.Coq10 is good as is fish oil fish oil helps reduce inflammation throughout the body when you take a 2,000 mg dose .reiki mushroom somewhat helps the immune system, but you will find that you need more than just that eventually .Everyone of us probably uses rife a bit differently.My way works for me , you still have to detox when using rife and some people believe that you can get to cysts using rife and others say that it cannot break down the cyst biofilm.also most lyme patients have sluggish blood from too much fibrin things like serrapeptase ,nattokinase or the earthworm product biuloke(sp?) help break down that fiber and makes you blood circulate better, while also being a cyst buster to some degree.Most natural lyme Doctors believe that you

must dissolve the cysts so that you can kill more spirochetes before they reproduce.Leaving the cysts alone, they reproduce in cyst form so you have five times as many spirochetes to kill every time they break open.This creates a cycle of keeping you ill for longer because there is more bacteria to fight. Re: No more burbur for me Posted by: "T.B" candlemn42@... candlemn42@... Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:51 am ((PDT))Hi

Jan you know i just cant tolerate detoxing or even the binder i woke up

this am took alkerselzer gold doc said it detoxes then took glucomannan

this time within an hour felt very lightheaded and still feel terrible "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fullerhttp://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/

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its funny damarise the sight susan was looking out didnt state thart burbur has antimicrobial abilities as well as detoxing i hope susan was able to find it..But hey if it works for them thats awsum i wish i could take it but i tried 3 different times and got very lightheaded etc..I am thinking the reason that perhaps cowden recommends it as a detoxifier is that its very effective for that and its antimicrobial ability isnt what he himself uses the herb for nor does his protocal call for coiling etc so it really wouldnt matter

Subject: RE: Re: No more burbur for meTo: lyme_and_rife Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 11:13 AM

HiTry high doeses of Vitamine C. Why is burbur stronger than other anti microbes. Some people use cholestmyne(im not sure the spelling) to detox. This medicine makes me sick, but i was told it used for people who have a hard time dextoxing. The fact that the body has all these mibrobes sounds very shocking, Do certain blood group types have different makes up in regards to microbes i heard negative types have very good immune systems?Damarise

To: Lyme_and_Rife From: healingdance@...Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:17:56 -0700Subject: Re: No more burbur for me

which is why you need to take the detoxing agents all the more.The lightheadedness is likely from the release its a clearing , you actually want this ,but even if you think you cannot tolerate detox, its an absolute must .without detoxing ,the toxins build up far too much and yes eventually they are deadly .Lyme can kill you if you dont detox, its that simple. Toxin overload like you have is what is making you so sick., so you have to detox, even if it makes you lightheaded for a little while.I have never heard of anyone getting lightheaded from alkaseltzer gold but the lightheadedness is the toxins releasing and that is necessary.eventually you wont get that lightheadedness. but maybe only feeling a lightening in the body instead.alkaseltzer gold helps by alkalizing the body .If the lightheadedness is that bad then just use one tablet to start

Very important is to find any way you can to get the toxins out.

In the past you mentioned headaches.These headaches are from toxins building up.I know that when a headache finally starts subsiding in me rI feel a bit lightheaded at first.it may feel uncomfortable at first but its part of the process of healing.Most lyme headaches is from the neutrotoxin ammonia that is in your brain , This is what you release when you detox using supplements that can get to the brain .Think about how the body feels when you take a sniff of ammonia when using it to clean.it makes most people lightheaded and feel ill

another thing that helps detox ammonia is Source Naturals K mag Kg, an excellent product( I take 2 or 3 tablets at a time when doing my detox regimen

The supplement he gave you is plant based steroids like cholestapure has .I personally did not find those things helpful, you might find different , but I found them a waste of money for an expensive product.Coq10 is good as is fish oil fish oil helps reduce inflammation throughout the body when you take a 2,000 mg dose .reiki mushroom somewhat helps the immune system, but you will find that you need more than just that eventually .

Everyone of us probably uses rife a bit differently.My way works for me , you still have to detox when using rife and some people believe that you can get to cysts using rife and others say that it cannot break down the cyst biofilm.

also most lyme patients have sluggish blood from too much fibrin things like serrapeptase ,nattokinase or the earthworm product biuloke(sp?) help break down that fiber and makes you blood circulate better, while also being a cyst buster to some degree.Most natural lyme Doctors believe that you must dissolve the cysts so that you can kill more spirochetes before they reproduce.Leaving the cysts alone, they reproduce in cyst form so you have five times as many spirochetes to kill every time they break open.This creates a cycle of keeping you ill for longer because there is more bacteria to fight

.. Re: No more burbur for me Posted by: "T.B" candlemn42@... candlemn42@... Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:51 am ((PDT))Hi Jan you know i just cant tolerate detoxing or even the binder i woke up this am took alkerselzer gold doc said it detoxes then took glucomannan this time within an hour felt very lightheaded and still feel terrible

"Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

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i understand but his protocal doesnt include coiling so if burbur has antimicrobial properties it wouldnt matter to him that the point i am trying to make .Did you call naturemedix and if so what did they say.When my wife comes home i will have her copy and paste the sight.

Subject: Re: No more burbur for meTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 1:15 AM

Dr Cowden is an MD who has been a frontrunner in the treatment of Lyme disease. He is highly respected in the Lyme community and presents at many of the Lyme conferences.> > > > > > > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>>

> > > Subject: Re: No more burbur for me> > > > To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >> > > > Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 8:30 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Terry> > > > > > > > I think 15 drops at a start was > > > > probably too much for you and that you were in the midst of a herx that > > > > was a bad one.If you are having this much issue with any part of the > > > > things you are doing , it means you have to add much more detox and > > > > probably a different binder or an additional one.> > > > Chronic lyme IS a neurological > > > > disease , or at least parts of it are, and so you must get past the > > > > blood brain barrier in anything you use.an idea is to take a binder and > > > > hour before and then again

after you take a detox agent.The > > > > lightheadedness is not remarkable , I was often lightheaded early in > > > > treatment.> > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ feeling really bad with the protocol likely means you are in a constant herx and you likely will want to slow this down some.When you first start just about any protocol you will get severe herxing .It means lower the killing agents and step up much more on detox agents> > > > > > > > .Are you taking anything to help the liver detox burbur addresses lymph and brain but not liver and its the liver that filters a lot of the toxins in the blood> > > > .I personally would do the muscle testing for how often your body wants something.It may be wise to cut the samento/banderol down to 2 or 3 times a week.Dont coil if you are herxing from the

banderol/samentoÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ or dont take the drops if you are herxing from the coil.Get through the majority of a herx before doing more killing.You are overloading your body with the neurotoxins from die off, to a point your body cannot handle it> > > > are you alsoÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ taking supplements to help your body cope like electrolytes and sea salt, magnesium a good whole foods multi vitamin, extra B vitamins, kudzu( pueraria) might also help the head symptoms. adrenal supplements also will help healthe body and make surviving this illness much easier> > > > > > > > I also want to tell you that I remember being right where you are, the feeling like I was going to die tomorrow feeling and I dearly wish I had all the knowledge I have now when I

started fighting this illness.You have the benefit of several peoples experiences here.Its still all trial and error, but we wil ltell you what works for us.> > > > > > > > Killing too fast is dangerous to the body. This is a ,do not run fight. and Somedays it feels like a step backwards , But you will get to the point where steps forward occur.Just do not try to rush it hun.Rushing it will make you sicker.Detox detox detox.First thing.Stop all killing and just do detoxÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and adrenal support for a week or two.when the herx ends then take more killing agents , but in small dosages and only more killing when you have the herxing under control with detox> > > > > > > > jan> > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do

anything > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/> > > >> > >> >>

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And yes hes an MD he would have to be one to be a cardiologist the Bocks this is there specialty lyme if you research him you will see this he also attends all the conferences and has written extensively on the subject

Subject: Re: No more burbur for meTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 1:15 AM

Dr Cowden is an MD who has been a frontrunner in the treatment of Lyme disease. He is highly respected in the Lyme community and presents at many of the Lyme conferences.> > > > > > > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>>

> > > Subject: Re: No more burbur for me> > > > To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >> > > > Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 8:30 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Terry> > > > > > > > I think 15 drops at a start was > > > > probably too much for you and that you were in the midst of a herx that > > > > was a bad one.If you are having this much issue with any part of the > > > > things you are doing , it means you have to add much more detox and > > > > probably a different binder or an additional one.> > > > Chronic lyme IS a neurological > > > > disease , or at least parts of it are, and so you must get past the > > > > blood brain barrier in anything you use.an idea is to take a binder and > > > > hour before and then again

after you take a detox agent.The > > > > lightheadedness is not remarkable , I was often lightheaded early in > > > > treatment.> > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ feeling really bad with the protocol likely means you are in a constant herx and you likely will want to slow this down some.When you first start just about any protocol you will get severe herxing .It means lower the killing agents and step up much more on detox agents> > > > > > > > .Are you taking anything to help the liver detox burbur addresses lymph and brain but not liver and its the liver that filters a lot of the toxins in the blood> > > > .I personally would do the muscle testing for how often your body wants something.It may be wise to cut the samento/banderol down to 2 or 3 times a week.Dont coil if you are herxing from the

banderol/samentoÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ or dont take the drops if you are herxing from the coil.Get through the majority of a herx before doing more killing.You are overloading your body with the neurotoxins from die off, to a point your body cannot handle it> > > > are you alsoÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ taking supplements to help your body cope like electrolytes and sea salt, magnesium a good whole foods multi vitamin, extra B vitamins, kudzu( pueraria) might also help the head symptoms. adrenal supplements also will help healthe body and make surviving this illness much easier> > > > > > > > I also want to tell you that I remember being right where you are, the feeling like I was going to die tomorrow feeling and I dearly wish I had all the knowledge I have now when I

started fighting this illness.You have the benefit of several peoples experiences here.Its still all trial and error, but we wil ltell you what works for us.> > > > > > > > Killing too fast is dangerous to the body. This is a ,do not run fight. and Somedays it feels like a step backwards , But you will get to the point where steps forward occur.Just do not try to rush it hun.Rushing it will make you sicker.Detox detox detox.First thing.Stop all killing and just do detoxÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and adrenal support for a week or two.when the herx ends then take more killing agents , but in small dosages and only more killing when you have the herxing under control with detox> > > > > > > > jan> > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do

anything > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/> > > >> > >> >>

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the alka selzer gold i will continue and try like you stated i never heard of using that till he mentioned it.As far as burbur its not for me i tried three seperate occassions and it constantly had the same effect i am sure its a great detoxifier as most of you swear by it but it is also antimicrobial and perhaps thats the reason i cant.

Subject: Re: No more burbur for meTo: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 9:17 AM

which is why you need to take the detoxing agents all the more.The lightheadedness is likely from the release its a clearing , you actually want this ,but even if you think you cannot tolerate detox, its an absolute must .without detoxing ,the toxins build up far too much and yes eventually they are deadly .Lyme can kill you if you dont detox, its that simple. Toxin overload like you have is what is making you so sick., so you have to detox, even if it makes you lightheaded for a little while.I have never heard of anyone getting lightheaded from alkaseltzer gold but the lightheadedness is the toxins releasing and that is necessary.eventually you wont get that lightheadedness. but maybe only feeling a lightening in the body instead.alkaseltzer gold helps by alkalizing the body .If the lightheadedness is that bad then just use one tablet to start

Very important is to find any way you can to get the toxins out.

In the past you mentioned headaches.These headaches are from toxins building up.I know that when a headache finally starts subsiding in me rI feel a bit lightheaded at first.it may feel uncomfortable at first but its part of the process of healing.Most lyme headaches is from the neutrotoxin ammonia that is in your brain , This is what you release when you detox using supplements that can get to the brain .Think about how the body feels when you take a sniff of ammonia when using it to clean.it makes most people lightheaded and feel ill

another thing that helps detox ammonia is Source Naturals K mag Kg, an excellent product( I take 2 or 3 tablets at a time when doing my detox regimen

The supplement he gave you is plant based steroids like cholestapure has .I personally did not find those things helpful, you might find different , but I found them a waste of money for an expensive product.Coq10 is good as is fish oil fish oil helps reduce inflammation throughout the body when you take a 2,000 mg dose .reiki mushroom somewhat helps the immune system, but you will find that you need more than just that eventually .

Everyone of us probably uses rife a bit differently.My way works for me , you still have to detox when using rife and some people believe that you can get to cysts using rife and others say that it cannot break down the cyst biofilm.

also most lyme patients have sluggish blood from too much fibrin things like serrapeptase ,nattokinase or the earthworm product biuloke(sp?) help break down that fiber and makes you blood circulate better, while also being a cyst buster to some degree.Most natural lyme Doctors believe that you must dissolve the cysts so that you can kill more spirochetes before they reproduce.Leaving the cysts alone, they reproduce in cyst form so you have five times as many spirochetes to kill every time they break open.This creates a cycle of keeping you ill for longer because there is more bacteria to fight

.. Re: No more burbur for me Posted by: "T.B" candlemn42@... candlemn42@... Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:51 am ((PDT))Hi Jan you know i just cant tolerate detoxing or even the binder i woke up this am took alkerselzer gold doc said it detoxes then took glucomannan this time within an hour felt very lightheaded and still feel terrible

"Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/

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i am detoxifing i am using activated charchol,drinking half my weight in water,using the infra sauna and going to take your advice and do the alkerselzer gold again.I also try to walk outside around my pool everyday for an hour to sweat even more..Now i must be detoxifing pretty good as i am going 2 times a day and urinating quite a bit as well as sweating.These are your major detoxing organs as well as the liver.I am even considering maybe doing a few organic coffee enemas.

Subject: Re: No more burbur for meTo: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 10:04 AM

Terry , again nio one said detoxing was easy, but it certainly will benefit you in the long run.You obviously have serious case of lyme and the samento and especially banderol is very very powerful killers of lyme.you MUST d3etox even if it doesnt feel good at first.As your load of toxins lowers the symptoms will lessen

Re: No more burbur for me Posted by: "T.B" candlemn42@... candlemn42@... Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:34 pm ((PDT)) were you able to find it?I am wondering if thats why i felt so horrible everytime i tried it...Antimicrobial is one of the herbs propertys --- On Wed, 7/18/12, musiclady <sue

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have you ever used activated charchol after a coiling session?Depending on what your reading etc everyone has there own imput i have read from many blogs that charchol was the best after coiling as it mops up the toxins quickly and gets them out ..Like i said i wish i myself was able to tolerate it as i heard so many good reviews,feedback on it but i also here the same on other detoxifiers and binders so i guess it boils down to whatever is more compatible and helpful to the person using it.

Subject: Re: No more burbur for meTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 10:00 AM

Actually, Burbur has been used for years by rifers. It was recommended to me about 6 years ago by a group member after I posted that I was throwing up from riffing, Luckily another group member had a similar experienced, recognized it as toxicity and told me to take Burbur. I have been taking it ever since and if I run out, it takes me twice as long to get past the herx. As Jan mentioned Detoxing is equally important to killing Spirochetes, If you can't tolerate 15 drops of Burbur, I would not give up on it, just back down on the amount you take, It really is the best herx buster that I know of after a coil session, They may list Burbur as antimicrobial because it detoxes out the dead pathogens so well, I really don't think that it does much in the way of killing Lyme, or it would increase the herxheimer reaction, not reduce it.> > > > > > > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>> > > > Subject: Re: No more burbur for me> > > > To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >> > > > Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 8:30 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > >

> > Terry> > > > > > > > I think 15 drops at a start was > > > > probably too much for you and that you were in the midst of a herx that > > > > was a bad one.If you are having this much issue with any part of the > > > > things you are doing , it means you have to add much more detox and > > > > probably a different binder or an additional one.> > > > Chronic lyme IS a neurological > > > > disease , or at least parts of it are, and so you must get past the > > > > blood brain barrier in anything you use.an idea is to take a binder and > > > > hour before and then again after you take a detox agent.The > > > > lightheadedness is not remarkable , I was often lightheaded early in > > > > treatment.> > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ feeling really bad with the protocol likely means you are in a constant herx and you likely will want to slow this down some.When you first start just about any protocol you will get severe herxing .It means lower the killing agents and step up much more on detox agents> > > > > > > > .Are you taking anything to help the liver detox burbur addresses lymph and brain but not liver and its the liver that filters a lot of the toxins in the blood> > > > .I personally would do the muscle testing for how often your body wants something.It may be wise to cut the samento/banderol down to 2 or 3 times a week.Dont coil if you are herxing from the banderol/samentoÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ or dont take the drops if you are herxing from the coil.Get through the

majority of a herx before doing more killing.You are overloading your body with the neurotoxins from die off, to a point your body cannot handle it> > > > are you alsoÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ taking supplements to help your body cope like electrolytes and sea salt, magnesium a good whole foods multi vitamin, extra B vitamins, kudzu( pueraria) might also help the head symptoms. adrenal supplements also will help healthe body and make surviving this illness much easier> > > > > > > > I also want to tell you that I remember being right where you are, the feeling like I was going to die tomorrow feeling and I dearly wish I had all the knowledge I have now when I started fighting this illness.You have the benefit of several peoples experiences here.Its still all trial and error, but we wil ltell you what works for us.> > > >

> > > > Killing too fast is dangerous to the body. This is a ,do not run fight. and Somedays it feels like a step backwards , But you will get to the point where steps forward occur.Just do not try to rush it hun.Rushing it will make you sicker.Detox detox detox.First thing.Stop all killing and just do detoxÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and adrenal support for a week or two.when the herx ends then take more killing agents , but in small dosages and only more killing when you have the herxing under control with detox> > > > > > > > jan> > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi Damarise,

The problem with high dose vitamin C is there is a limit to how much oral

vitamin C your digestive system can tolerate unless you take it as an infusion

bypassing the digestive system. I have not found vitamin C to work as rapidly

as Burbur. It is my back up along with Red Clover when I run out of Burbur, but

it never works as quickly as Burbur.

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dextoxing. The fact that the body has all these mibrobes sounds very shocking,

Do certain blood group types have different makes up in regards to microbes i

heard negative types have very good immune systems?

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> which is why you need to take the detoxing agents all the more.The

lightheadedness is likely from the release its a clearing , you actually want

this ,but even if you think you cannot tolerate detox, its an absolute must

..without detoxing ,the toxins build up far too much and yes eventually they are

deadly .Lyme can kill you if you dont detox, its that simple. Toxin overload

like you have is what is making you so sick., so you have to detox, even if it

makes you lightheaded for a little while.I have never heard of anyone getting

lightheaded from alkaseltzer gold but the lightheadedness is the toxins

releasing and that is necessary.eventually you wont get that lightheadedness.

but maybe only feeling a lightening in the body instead.alkaseltzer gold helps

by alkalizing the body .If

> the lightheadedness is that bad then just use one tablet to start

> Very important is to find any way you can to get the toxins out.In the past

you mentioned headaches.These headaches are from toxins building up.I know that

when a headache finally starts subsiding in me rI feel a bit lightheaded at

first.it may feel uncomfortable at first but its part of the process of

healing.Most lyme headaches is from the neutrotoxin ammonia that is in your

brain , This is what you release when you detox using supplements that can get

to the brain .Think about how the body feels when you take a sniff of ammonia

when using it to clean.it makes most people lightheaded and feel ill

> another thing that helps detox ammonia is Source Naturals K mag Kg, an

excellent product( I take 2 or 3 tablets at a time when doing my detox regimen

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> The supplement he gave you is plant based steroids like

> cholestapure has .I personally did not find those things helpful, you might

find different , but I found them a waste of money for an expensive

product.Coq10 is good as is fish oil fish oil helps reduce inflammation

throughout the body when you take a 2,000 mg dose .reiki mushroom somewhat helps

the immune system, but you will find that you need more than just that

eventually .

>

> Everyone of us probably uses rife a bit differently.My way works for me , you

still have to detox when using rife and some people believe that you can get to

cysts using rife and others say that it cannot break down the cyst biofilm.also

most lyme patients have sluggish blood from too much fibrin things like

serrapeptase ,nattokinase or the earthworm product biuloke(sp?) help break down

that fiber and makes you blood circulate better, while also being a cyst buster

to some degree.Most natural lyme Doctors believe that you

> must dissolve the cysts so that you can kill more spirochetes before they

reproduce.Leaving the cysts alone, they reproduce in cyst form so you have five

times as many spirochetes to kill every time they break open.This creates a

cycle of keeping you ill for longer because there is more bacteria to fight

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> . Re: No more burbur for me

> Posted by: " T.B " candlemn42@... candlemn42@...

> Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:51 am ((PDT))

>

> Hi

> Jan you know i just cant tolerate detoxing or even the binder i woke up

> this am took alkerselzer gold doc said it detoxes then took glucomannan

> this time within an hour felt very lightheaded and still feel terrible

> " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and

to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

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Charcoal is a binder and only works once the toxins have been released from the

liver. Burbur is not a binder the Burbur speeds along this process so that the

charcoal can bind the toxins. I use all matter of binders, Charcoal, Zeolite,

Chlorella, Cilantro, Clay, Cholestepure, Thuja,

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> > > > >

> > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>

> > > > > Subject: Re: No more burbur for me

> > > > > To: " Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >

> > > > > Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 8:30 PM

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> > > > >

> > > > > Terry

> > > > >

> > > > > I think 15 drops at a start was

> > > > > probably too much for you and that you were in the midst of a herx

that

> > > > > was a bad one.If you are having this much issue with any part of the

> > > > > things you are doing , it means you have to add much more detox and

> > > > > probably a different binder or an additional one.

> > > > > Chronic lyme IS a neurological

> > > > > disease , or at least parts of it are, and so you must get past the

> > > > > blood brain barrier in anything you use.an idea is to take a binder

and

> > > > > hour before and then again after you take a detox agent.The

> > > > > lightheadedness is not remarkable , I was often lightheaded early in

> > > > > treatment.

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‚ feeling really bad with the protocol likely means you are in a constant

herx and you likely will want to slow this down some.When you first start just

about any protocol you will get severe herxing .It means lower the killing

agents and step up much more on detox agents

> > > > >

> > > > > .Are you taking anything to help the liver detox burbur addresses

lymph and brain but not liver and its the liver that filters a lot of the toxins

in the blood

> > > > > .I personally would do the muscle testing for how often your body

wants something.It may be wise to cut the samento/banderol down to 2 or 3 times

a week.Dont coil if you are herxing from the

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coil.Get through the majority of a herx before doing more killing.You are

overloading your body with the neurotoxins from die off, to a point your body

cannot handle it

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šÃ‚  taking supplements to help your body cope like electrolytes and sea

salt, magnesium a good whole foods multi vitamin, extra B vitamins, kudzu(

pueraria) might also help the head symptoms. adrenal supplements also will help

healthe body and make surviving this illness much easier

> > > > >

> > > > > I also want to tell you that I remember being right where you are, the

feeling like I was going to die tomorrow feeling and I dearly wish I had all the

knowledge I have now when I started fighting this illness.You have the benefit

of several peoples experiences here.Its still all trial and error, but we wil

ltell you what works for us.

> > > > >

> > > > > Killing too fast is dangerous to the body. This is a ,do not run

fight. and Somedays it feels like a step backwards , But you will get to the

point where steps forward occur.Just do not try to rush it hun.Rushing it will

make you sicker.Detox detox detox.First thing.Stop all killing and just do

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¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚  and adrenal support for a week or two.when the herx ends then take

more killing agents , but in small dosages and only more killing when you have

the herxing under control with detox

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> > > > > jan

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the

truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

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