is a binder really neccesary?

[Guest guest]

You know everyone seems to talk of the importance of using a binder but is it

really neccessary?

My thinking is there any proof that it helps?If you are very regular 2 time or

three time a dayer it would appear your elimination pathways are working

effectively so my question is why the need for a binder?Is there any scientific

evidence to state its more effective in a person like this whose system is

working up to par?Now if your constantly constipated not regular then i could

see the logic in using a binder as the toxins arent being released in a timely

fashion.

If anyone has any scientific proof that what i am thinking is incorrect i would

like to see i dont want speculation but the literature to back up the essential

need for a binder in case scenario described above.

[Guest guest]

Hi Terence,

Taking charcoal caps really helps me with pain and the severe

toxicity I feel without that kind of help.

I tend towards extremely loose stools, but often take charcoal at

night (I sleep only sporadically)

to help mop up the toxins so that I am more able to catch a few

zzz's!

warmly,

Suzy

You know everyone seems to talk of the importance of

using a binder but is it really neccessary?

My thinking is there any proof that it helps?If you are

very regular 2 time or three time a dayer it would appear

your elimination pathways are working effectively so my

question is why the need for a binder?Is there any

scientific evidence to state its more effective in a

person like this whose system is working up to par?Now if

your constantly constipated not regular then i could see

the logic in using a binder as the toxins arent being

released in a timely fashion.

If anyone has any scientific proof that what i am thinking

is incorrect i would like to see i dont want speculation

but the literature to back up the essential need for a

binder in case scenario described above.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Terence,

Charcoal really helps with toxins that cause gas and bloat. But you have to

take it well away from food or supplements, or it will also bind with those and

they will leave your system with the charcoal. You may have greyish stools.

Khaya

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> > You know everyone seems to talk of the importance of using a binder

> > but is it really neccessary?

> > My thinking is there any proof that it helps?If you are very regular 2

> > time or three time a dayer it would appear your elimination pathways

> > are working effectively so my question is why the need for a binder?Is

> > there any scientific evidence to state its more effective in a person

> > like this whose system is working up to par?Now if your constantly

> > constipated not regular then i could see the logic in using a binder

> > as the toxins arent being released in a timely fashion.

> > If anyone has any scientific proof that what i am thinking is

> > incorrect i would like to see i dont want speculation but the

> > literature to back up the essential need for a binder in case scenario

> > described above.

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[Guest guest]

So the charcoal prevents you from getting loose stools? Now with me it tends to cause semi constipation which i am wondering could impeed the elimination of toxins i would think.Just my speculation...

You know everyone seems to talk of the importance of using a binder but is it really neccessary?My thinking is there any proof that it helps?If you are very regular 2 time or three time a dayer it would appear your elimination pathways are working effectively so my question is why the need for a binder?Is there any scientific evidence to state its more effective in a person like this whose system is working up to par?Now if your constantly constipated not regular then i could see the logic in using a binder as the toxins arent being released in a timely fashion.If anyone has any scientific proof that what i am thinking is incorrect i would like to see i dont want speculation but the literature to back up the essential need for a binder in case scenario described above.

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[Guest guest]

This is gonna sound crazy to you but every detoxifier i have thus far has made me feel so much worse.I tried burbur,chlorella,chlorophill,alker selzer gold.What else is there to try?

Subject: is a binder really neccesary?To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM

Terry

a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely neutralizes all toxins when released

..I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it might be for some people

In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a few hours is my bet

..I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases. Every person is different and has different responses to each and every method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for every person

..Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the treatment options that help you have the good days eventually.

here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect goes away?. if even for just a few hours?

If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then detoxing and binders are necessary.

I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore

..Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body

jan

is a binder really neccesary?

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[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

That is very strange, not normal, I don't know of anyone with this issue...

Now if you are say mobilizing metals and not mopping them up, this could

make you feel more ill... Metals moving around in the body is dangerous,

thus the need for a good binder..

Essiac tea of course! This has a 90 year success rate in the Canadian medical

community as a detoxer for cancer... Very inexpensive, easy to make, easy

to take.. Need more info, let me know!

Take care,

Jim

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>  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the bathroom,

a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people who dont needs

to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how you feel tells me

that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released by detox is

necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( lots of herxes

and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I sometimes have to take

something to make me go when Im taking lots of binders , but I normally have

between two and four BMs a day , Still I need binders to help detox , unless you

find a substance that completely neutralizes all toxins when released

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> .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to neutralize some

things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which works to neutralize

ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by lyme and coinfections and

its one product that works for me I cannot say what works for others.Some think

MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but for me it does .I get severe

constipation  from it and will get yeast infections from its killing off good

bacteria in my gut when I take it regularly.It helps when I take it once in a

while when I also take extra magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what

its killing though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as

it might be for some people

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> In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and taking no

binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a few hours is my

bet

> .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about detox.Now at

most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours  when I detox and

take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases.  Every person is

different and has different responses to each and every method  .Find out what

works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a thing that I cannot do as detox,

so while it works for many its not for every person

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> .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple of

hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling where

you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have a good day

when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without depleting your total

energy.You have to find the things out of all the treatment options that help

you have the good days eventually.

>  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after detoxing  how

long does it last and do you feel better after that affect goes away?. if even

for just a few hours? 

> If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe and makes

you feel crappy  despite having regular bowel movements, then detoxing and

binders are necessary.

> I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, herxes.more

pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint hurt and that

was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore

> .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL list 

which has  frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for detox or

normalizing  different systems or organs in the body

> jan

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