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Hi Kim,

I've just had a dialogue with via email because I was

really struggling the past couple of days. I originally contacted

her privately because I didn't know if it was OK to post here, but

she said yes, it's best to share the experience with others who have

been through it.

I was talking about suicide again, and saying that I couldn't stand

to be in my own skin. The pain inside was dreadful. I was trying to

pin it on whatever I could: PMS, no sunshine, ionizer broken . . .

in essence, I was saying all the same things I said when I first

came here.

is wonderful. She was very understanding and also asked me

to look at what's happening in my life. She said I sound very bored,

LOL. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn't suit me, sadly; I love being

with my little girl, but being " alone " with her much of the time

with nothing else to do is rather soul-destroying. My plan is to

work part time when she goes to full time school. Before then, maybe

it would be an idea to see a counsellor and get some ideas for what

I can do in the meantime.

This afternoon I went to my gym, can't exercise, but I put in

the nursery while I sat in the sun outside and relaxed. I was even

able to listen to some favourite music on my mini iPod. (Led

Zeppelin, Queen, Rush, Tom Waits, LOL, believe it or not it really

was relaxing.) This happened last week when I did the same -- I

caught a glimpse of " me " under there somewhere. I remembered what it

is like to live, to be. And I thought of just this morning, the

utter desperation, the hopelessness, the pain, and I thought, " what

was all that about. "

The ups and downs are truly amazing. I feel like a puppet on a

string. But I will gradually gain control.

I wanted to say that I do remember what you told me about not seeing

my state of being as " The Depression, " or SAD, or anything other

than just feeling a certain way. I think was trying to

tell me this too. It's hard to take heed of this when your brain is

screaming but I've been thinking about it a lot this afternoon and

it's such a good way to frame things.

Now, instead of wondering where the depression ends and the

withdrawal begins; instead of obsessing about catching the light

every time the sun comes out; I will tell myself to get on with

things and stay steady. I took another step today by ordering some

magnesium citrate, as I've only got oxide at the moment.

I'm a bit embarrassed about being so crazy lately, but like

said, people here understand, they've been there. I hope I

can hold onto everything I've said here, the next time I get a bit

crazy.

Thanks again for listening,

.

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Dear ,

I understand exactly what you are saying, all too well... Hang in there,

girl! Things will get brighter, and it sounds like you are taking positive

steps. Thank goodness for , and her good thoughts in helping you

sort things out. I can relate to every word you are saying, and I'm sure

lots of people here can! And it DOES get better! Blessings, Sally

> [Original Message]

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> To: <Withdrawal_and_Recovery >

> Date: 5/9/2006 1:03:32 PM

> Subject: To Kim

>

> Hi Kim,

>

> I've just had a dialogue with via email because I was

> really struggling the past couple of days. I originally contacted

> her privately because I didn't know if it was OK to post here, but

> she said yes, it's best to share the experience with others who have

> been through it.

>

> I was talking about suicide again, and saying that I couldn't stand

> to be in my own skin. The pain inside was dreadful. I was trying to

> pin it on whatever I could: PMS, no sunshine, ionizer broken . . .

> in essence, I was saying all the same things I said when I first

> came here.

>

> is wonderful. She was very understanding and also asked me

> to look at what's happening in my life. She said I sound very bored,

> LOL. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn't suit me, sadly; I love being

> with my little girl, but being " alone " with her much of the time

> with nothing else to do is rather soul-destroying. My plan is to

> work part time when she goes to full time school. Before then, maybe

> it would be an idea to see a counsellor and get some ideas for what

> I can do in the meantime.

>

> This afternoon I went to my gym, can't exercise, but I put in

> the nursery while I sat in the sun outside and relaxed. I was even

> able to listen to some favourite music on my mini iPod. (Led

> Zeppelin, Queen, Rush, Tom Waits, LOL, believe it or not it really

> was relaxing.) This happened last week when I did the same -- I

> caught a glimpse of " me " under there somewhere. I remembered what it

> is like to live, to be. And I thought of just this morning, the

> utter desperation, the hopelessness, the pain, and I thought, " what

> was all that about. "

>

> The ups and downs are truly amazing. I feel like a puppet on a

> string. But I will gradually gain control.

>

> I wanted to say that I do remember what you told me about not seeing

> my state of being as " The Depression, " or SAD, or anything other

> than just feeling a certain way. I think was trying to

> tell me this too. It's hard to take heed of this when your brain is

> screaming but I've been thinking about it a lot this afternoon and

> it's such a good way to frame things.

>

> Now, instead of wondering where the depression ends and the

> withdrawal begins; instead of obsessing about catching the light

> every time the sun comes out; I will tell myself to get on with

> things and stay steady. I took another step today by ordering some

> magnesium citrate, as I've only got oxide at the moment.

>

> I'm a bit embarrassed about being so crazy lately, but like

> said, people here understand, they've been there. I hope I

> can hold onto everything I've said here, the next time I get a bit

> crazy.

>

> Thanks again for listening,

> .

>

>

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Hi ,

I just wanted to let you know we've all been where you were today.

When you come off the drugs strong emotions begin to surface and

they can sometimes feel quite overwhelming. While it doesn't always

feel so at first, this is actually a very positive thing because we

are re-connecting with ourselves -- the drugs have often separated

us from our feelings.

It seems to me that you've made a very significant, positive step.

Instead of trying to push your feelings back down with some sort of

external fix, you were strong and faced them bravely. And now you

are thinking about things you can do in the future that will improve

your situation. That is such an important part of healing. And the

more you do it, the more it will just become a natural part of you.

Best to you,

>

> Hi Kim,

>

> I've just had a dialogue with via email because I was

> really struggling the past couple of days. I originally contacted

> her privately because I didn't know if it was OK to post here, but

> she said yes, it's best to share the experience with others who

have

> been through it.

>

> I was talking about suicide again, and saying that I couldn't

stand

> to be in my own skin. The pain inside was dreadful. I was trying

to

> pin it on whatever I could: PMS, no sunshine, ionizer broken . . .

> in essence, I was saying all the same things I said when I first

> came here.

>

> is wonderful. She was very understanding and also asked

me

> to look at what's happening in my life. She said I sound very

bored,

> LOL. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn't suit me, sadly; I love being

> with my little girl, but being " alone " with her much of the time

> with nothing else to do is rather soul-destroying. My plan is to

> work part time when she goes to full time school. Before then,

maybe

> it would be an idea to see a counsellor and get some ideas for

what

> I can do in the meantime.

>

> This afternoon I went to my gym, can't exercise, but I put

in

> the nursery while I sat in the sun outside and relaxed. I was even

> able to listen to some favourite music on my mini iPod. (Led

> Zeppelin, Queen, Rush, Tom Waits, LOL, believe it or not it really

> was relaxing.) This happened last week when I did the same -- I

> caught a glimpse of " me " under there somewhere. I remembered what

it

> is like to live, to be. And I thought of just this morning, the

> utter desperation, the hopelessness, the pain, and I

thought, " what

> was all that about. "

>

> The ups and downs are truly amazing. I feel like a puppet on a

> string. But I will gradually gain control.

>

> I wanted to say that I do remember what you told me about not

seeing

> my state of being as " The Depression, " or SAD, or anything other

> than just feeling a certain way. I think was trying to

> tell me this too. It's hard to take heed of this when your brain

is

> screaming but I've been thinking about it a lot this afternoon and

> it's such a good way to frame things.

>

> Now, instead of wondering where the depression ends and the

> withdrawal begins; instead of obsessing about catching the light

> every time the sun comes out; I will tell myself to get on with

> things and stay steady. I took another step today by ordering some

> magnesium citrate, as I've only got oxide at the moment.

>

> I'm a bit embarrassed about being so crazy lately, but like

> said, people here understand, they've been there. I hope

I

> can hold onto everything I've said here, the next time I get a bit

> crazy.

>

> Thanks again for listening,

> .

>

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