RE: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe

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dayummmmmmmmmm i am just so fuked then..

Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM

Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the

coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative

lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

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I use burbur and pinealla together as pinella is a brain nerve detox, maybe that is why I am doing ok?? Also if I drink the level of water I need to detox I lose body salts and that alone makes me extremely light headed and weak...so I take salt preferable Himalayan rock salts as it has minerals in it or toppings salt tablet and hydrolite  (an electrolyte replacement) and I feel HEAPS  better. I also take chlorella to detox and morlife barley grass for energy  and activated charcoal.  I found it gets worse before it gets better... it was like all of the toxins which made me sick going in...made me sick going out...;DETOX is the only thing that helps.   At my worst I would take stematol everyday or I would have to hold on to walls as I lost my balance...this is all fine now. I am reading with much amusement about crapachinos,  basically low volume coffee enemas using a bulb and might even try that... it gets rid of a layer of backed up toxins from liver , kidneys and bowels faster than anything.   So I might try yet,  I had colonic irrigation years ago and it made me feel incredible so I know this sort of thing works. Basicly detox is the only thing that helps...the more the better!  Mum is prone is constipation and uses a heaped teaspoon of oxy min sodium ascorbate to fix this.....nothing else works for her Got to go for now Good luck Cheers lisa From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of T.BSent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 1:12 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: RE: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe half my weight in water a day,just started to try burbur again but dont know if i will last on it,infra sauna 30 minutes a day activated chacol thirty to 45 minutes after detoxifier tho today did gluco. Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (9) Recent Activity: New Members 8 New Files 1 Visit Your Group If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. -------------------------------