Re: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe

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Hey  remember teasel ( to take meds to extremities) and  serraptase in high doses 60 000 units twice daily and natto 1 tab twice daily  to remove biofilms so your meds work better.  Also heaps of chinese herbs for co infections too. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of T.BSent: Monday, 23 July 2012 3:42 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe dayummmmmmmmmm i am just so fuked then..Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

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Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM

Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune

system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i

have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

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Only thing I can suggest if you are this sick is to detox in every way you possibly can as much as possible!  What are you doing for detox. Wishing you well From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of T.BSent: Monday, 23 July 2012 10:53 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: RE: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe so very true i guess i just dont know where to begin seems everything i try makes me worse and lord knows i am severe now. Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

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half my weight in water a day,just started to try burbur again but dont know if i will last on it,infra sauna 30 minutes a day activated chacol thirty to 45 minutes after detoxifier tho today did gluco. Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM

Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being

detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the

co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

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I love my infra red sauna too but u can feel pretty bad from it @ 1st. Maybe too much of the sauna is making you worse? Maybe I'm completely wrong...just going by what I have heard. KristieSent from my iPhone

half my weight in water a day,just started to try burbur again but dont know if i will last on it,infra sauna 30 minutes a day activated chacol thirty to 45 minutes after detoxifier tho today did gluco. Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM

Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being

detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the

co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

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i dunno been doing that for a few months dunno what to think anymore here my neuro symptoms just keep getting worse Subject: Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 1:30 PM

Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld

told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

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