Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Also, you could try activated charcoal and/or cilantro tincture. > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@> > > Subject: is a binder really neccesary? > > To: " Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife > > > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry > >  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely neutralizes all toxins when released > > > > > > .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it might be for some people > > > > > > In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a few hours is my bet > > .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases. Every person is different and has different responses to each and every method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for every person > > > > > > > > .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the treatment options that help you have the good days eventually. > >  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect goes away?. if even for just a few hours? > > If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then detoxing and binders are necessary. > > I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore > > .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body > > jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a binder really neccesary? > >  > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 i take activated charcoal but i thought that was only a binder?Cilantro sounds like a plan i also just ordered that esiac tea jim recommened Subject: Re: is a binder really neccesary?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 9:51 PM Also, you could try activated charcoal and/or cilantro tincture.> > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>> > Subject: is a binder really neccesary?> > To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >> > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry> >  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely neutralizes all toxins when released> > > > > > .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it might be for some people> > > > > > In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a few hours is my bet> > .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases. Every person is different and has different responses to each and every method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for every person> > > > > > > > .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the treatment options that help you have the good days eventually.> >  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect goes away?. if even for just a few hours? > > If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then detoxing and binders are necessary.> > I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore> > .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body> > jan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a binder really neccesary?> >  > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 hi terence,nature might be considered 'scientific proof' regarding binders.most binders are actually fibers, as fiber is meant to be a binder,. fiber is naturally found in vegs., fruits, etc. and binds to 'things' such as toxins in the g.i. tract to move then out. so in nature, there are many natural foods that bind to toxins to move them out so they are not reabsorbed. but we have more toxins to get rid of than what our food fiber/binders can handle. when we eat, our liver/gallbladder will dump toxins as it dumps bile to help digest food. when we do things like a coffee enema to help 'dump' our liver's bile and toxins, we should have something there to bind these toxins. most people are given fibers to help constipation, which is to cause bulk to make the intestines move, thus moving the toxins out. but in my case, with gut dismobility, the binders only worsen the constipation, causing blockages. so, in addition to what i take at night to 'go', before my c.e. in the morning, i take the binder glucammanon, (which also constipates me) but with 10k mg of vit c which helps move all of this out. so, if you want to take a binder and find that it is constipating to you, you might want to try taking high doses of vit. c or magnesium with it. you'll have to experiment with the c or mag to see how much works for you. that is my understanding of all this. good luck,barbara So the charcoal prevents you from getting loose stools? Now with me it tends to cause semi constipation which i am wondering could impeed the elimination of toxins i would think.Just my speculation... You know everyone seems to talk of the importance of using a binder but is it really neccessary?My thinking is there any proof that it helps?If you are very regular 2 time or three time a dayer it would appear your elimination pathways are working effectively so my question is why the need for a binder?Is there any scientific evidence to state its more effective in a person like this whose system is working up to par?Now if your constantly constipated not regular then i could see the logic in using a binder as the toxins arent being released in a timely fashion. If anyone has any scientific proof that what i am thinking is incorrect i would like to see i dont want speculation but the literature to back up the essential need for a binder in case scenario described above. No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5143 - Release Date: 07/20/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 about cilantro. does the cilantro help bind or is it just for detoxing? i would think cilantro would not be a substance that would add to constipation, but not sure if it is a binder. barbara i take activated charcoal but i thought that was only a binder?Cilantro sounds like a plan i also just ordered that esiac tea jim recommened Subject: Re: is a binder really neccesary? To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 9:51 PM Also, you could try activated charcoal and/or cilantro tincture. > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>> > Subject: is a binder really neccesary?> > To: " Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife > > > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry > >  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely neutralizes all toxins when released> > > > > > .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it might be for some people > > > > > > In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a few hours is my bet> > .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases. Every person is different and has different responses to each and every method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for every person > > > > > > > > .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the treatment options that help you have the good days eventually.> >  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect goes away?. if even for just a few hours? > > If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then detoxing and binders are necessary.> > I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore > > .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body> > jan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a binder really neccesary?> >  > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 for me charcoal has no effect on my loose stools,,,wish it would! I agree with you, that if the charcoal is resulting in constipation for you, that could exacerbate the elimination of toxins.  So the charcoal prevents you from getting loose stools? Now with me it tends to cause semi constipation which i am wondering could impeed the elimination of toxins i would think.Just my speculation...  You know everyone seems to talk of the importance of using a binder but is it really neccessary? My thinking is there any proof that it helps?If you are very regular 2 time or three time a dayer it would appear your elimination pathways are working effectively so my question is why the need for a binder?Is there any scientific evidence to state its more effective in a person like this whose system is working up to par?Now if your constantly constipated not regular then i could see the logic in using a binder as the toxins arent being released in a timely fashion. If anyone has any scientific proof that what i am thinking is incorrect i would like to see i dont want speculation but the literature to back up the essential need for a binder in case scenario described above. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5143 - Release Date: 07/20/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5143 - Release Date: 07/20/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Do not take cilantro if ou might have heavy metal poisoning. I read that one does the most stiring and the least binding to the toxin. I read alpha lipodic acid is good and it felt very good to me whe I was very sick. Cameron > > > > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@> > > > Subject: is a binder really neccesary? > > > To: " Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife > > > > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry > > >  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely neutralizes all toxins when released > > > > > > > > > .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it might be for some people > > > > > > > > > In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a few hours is my bet > > > .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases. Every person is different and has different responses to each and every method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for every person > > > > > > > > > > > > .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the treatment options that help you have the good days eventually. > > >  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect goes away?. if even for just a few hours? > > > If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then detoxing and binders are necessary. > > > I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore > > > .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body > > > jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a binder really neccesary? > > >  > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 thanks cam for the info .. Subject: Re: is a binder really neccesary?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 1:16 PM Do not take cilantro if ou might have heavy metal poisoning. I read that one does the most stiring and the least binding to the toxin. I read alpha lipodic acid is good and it felt very good to me whe I was very sick.Cameron> > > > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>> > > Subject: is a binder really neccesary?> > > To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >> > > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM> > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry> > >  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely neutralizes all toxins when released> > > > > > > > > .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it might be for some people> > > > > > > > > In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a few hours is my bet> > > .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases. Every person is different and has different responses to each and every method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for every person> > > > > > > > > > > > .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the treatment options that help you have the good days eventually.> > >  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect goes away?. if even for just a few hours? > > > If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then detoxing and binders are necessary.> > > I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore> > > .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body> > > jan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a binder really neccesary?> > >  > > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 The Health Benefits of Cilantro Cilantro Health Benefits source This herb isn't just a commonly-used leaf and seed ingredient found in many tasty and exotic recipes, it's also a powerful natural cleansing agent. Cilantro has been effectively used to help remove heavy metals and other toxic agents from the body. The chemical compounds in cilantro actually bind to the heavy metals, loosening them from the tissues, blood and organs. Cilantro's chemical compounds then aid to transport these harmful substances out of the body through elimination. There is also a large amount of literature suggesting that cilantro could be one of nature's best chelation agents, particularly for individuals who have been exposed to heightened levels of mercury. Mercury excess is a common problem that may be the result of metallic teeth fillings or over-consumption of predatory fish. Many people suffering from excess mercury report that the feeling of disorientation resulting from the poisoning can be greatly reduced through consuming large and regular amounts of cilantro over an extended period. Also, the rich qualities of cilantro oil have a powerfully positive effect on our inner digestive tract. The oils aid our digestive system in its production of digestive enzymes, acids and juices. The oil also helps to stimulate digestion through peristaltic motion. The known benefits of cilantro are extensive, and researchers are discovering more every day. Currently, there are several well-known, well-documented benefits of organic cilantro, including: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: jan s <healingdance@> > > > > Subject: is a binder really neccesary? > > > > To: " Lyme_and_Rife <http://us.mc845.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Lyme\ _and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com> " > > <Lyme_and_Rife <http://us.mc845.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Lyme\ _and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry > > > >  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the > > bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people > > who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how > > you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released > > by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse ( > > lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I > > sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of > > binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need > > binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely > > neutralizes all toxins when released > > > > > > > > > > > > .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to > > neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which > > works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by > > lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say > > what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but > > for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast > > infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it > > regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra > > magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing > > though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it > > might be for some people > > > > > > > > > > > > In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and > > taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a > > few hours is my bet > > > > .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about > > detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hours > > when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases. > > Every person is different and has different responses to each and every > > method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a > > thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for > > every person > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple > > of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling > > where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have > > a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without > > depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the > > treatment options that help you have the good days eventually. > > > >  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after > > detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect > > goes away?. if even for just a few hours? > > > > If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe > > and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then > > detoxing and binders are necessary. > > > > I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now, > > herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint > > hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore > > > > .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL > > list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for > > detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body > > > > jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a binder really neccesary? > > > >  > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the > > truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 ty for the great info Terry Subject: Re: is a binder really neccesary?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 4:35 PM The Health Benefits of CilantroCilantro Health BenefitssourceThis herb isn't just a commonly-used leaf and seed ingredient found in many tasty and exotic recipes, it's also a powerful natural cleansing agent. Cilantro has been effectively used to help remove heavy metals and other toxic agents from the body.The chemical compounds in cilantro actually bind to the heavy metals, loosening them from the tissues, blood and organs. Cilantro's chemical compounds then aid to transport these harmful substances out of the body through elimination.There is also a large amount of literature suggesting that cilantro could be one of nature's best chelation agents, particularly for individuals who have been exposed to heightened levels of mercury. Mercury excess is a common problem that may be the result of metallic teeth fillings or over-consumption of predatory fish. Many people suffering from excess mercury report that the feeling of disorientation resulting from the poisoning can be greatly reduced through consuming large and regular amounts of cilantro over an extended period.Also, the rich qualities of cilantro oil have a powerfully positive effect on our inner digestive tract. The oils aid our digestive system in its production of digestive enzymes, acids and juices. The oil also helps to stimulate digestion through peristaltic motion.The known benefits of cilantro are extensive, and researchers are discovering more every day. Currently, there are several well-known, well-documented benefits of organic cilantro, including:> > > >> > > >> > > > From: jan s <healingdance@>> > > > Subject: is a binder really neccesary?> > > > To: "Lyme_and_Rife <http://us.mc845.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com>"> > <Lyme_and_Rife <http://us.mc845.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com>> > >> > > > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 3:06 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Terry> > > >  a binder has nothing to do with how many times a day you go to the> > bathroom, a binder is what is used to Mop up toxins.There are some people> > who dont needs to do extra for detox at all, but the way you describe how> > you feel tells me that detox and binders which mop up the toxins released> > by detox is necessary.With this disease you will almost always feel worse (> > lots of herxes and toxins floating around) ,before you feel better.I> > sometimes have to take something to make me go when Im taking lots of> > binders , but I normally have between two and four BMs a day , Still I need> > binders to help detox , unless you find a substance that completely> > neutralizes all toxins when released> > > >> > > >> > > > .I have not found one yet , even though some products claim to> > neutralize some things and the only one Ive found is the K Mag KG which> > works to neutralize ammonia.However that is not the only toxin produced by> > lyme and coinfections and its one product that works for me I cannot say> > what works for others.Some think MMS works to neutralize all toxins , but> > for me it does .I get severe constipation from it and will get yeast> > infections from its killing off good bacteria in my gut when I take it> > regularly.It helps when I take it once in a while when I also take extra> > magnesium to stop the constipation .Dont know what its killing> > though.because MMS is a killing agent for me and not a detoxifier as it> > might be for some people> > > >> > > >> > > > In your case , even though you feel lousy, try killing stuff and> > taking no binders at all .You will feel much worse for much longer than a> > few hours is my bet> > > > .I know I felt horrible for days on end before I learned about> > detox.Now at most I feel lousy for a day , usually just for a few hoursÂ> > when I detox and take a binder to mop up the toxins that detox releases.Â> > Every person is different and has different responses to each and every> > method .Find out what works for you.Some people use coffee enemas, a> > thing that I cannot do as detox, so while it works for many its not for> > every person> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > .Your body will tell you.Is it better to feel lightheaded for a couple> > of hours or have severe brain fog? is it better to have that toxic feeling> > where you feel ill and unable to do anything, or is it better when you have> > a good day when you can expend a couple of hours of energy without> > depleting your total energy.You have to find the things out of all the> > treatment options that help you have the good days eventually.> > > >  here is a question for you.When you feel lightheaded after> > detoxing how long does it last and do you feel better after that affect> > goes away?. if even for just a few hours?Â> > > > If a herx lasts for more than a couple of days , and if it is severe> > and makes you feel crappy despite having regular bowel movements, then> > detoxing and binders are necessary.> > > > I remember having what I call i wanna curl up and die right now,> > herxes.more pain, feeling like I had been poisoned , every muscle and joint> > hurt and that was before I learned about detox Now I dont get those anymore> > > > .Oh and another thing to show detox is necessary is that even the CAFL> > list which has frequencies that we use with rifing has frequencies for> > detox or normalizing different systems or organs in the body> > > > jan> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > is a binder really neccesary?> > > > Â> > > > "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything> > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the> > truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 thank you for your exlpination. is psilosybin I mean psyllium husks a decent organic binder ? I have been using that some as well as glucomannon. Cameron > > > > > > You know everyone seems to talk of the importance of using a binder but is > > it really neccessary? > > My thinking is there any proof that it helps?If you are very regular 2 > > time or three time a dayer it would appear your elimination pathways are > > working effectively so my question is why the need for a binder?Is there > > any scientific evidence to state its more effective in a person like this > > whose system is working up to par?Now if your constantly constipated not > > regular then i could see the logic in using a binder as the toxins arent > > being released in a timely fashion. > > If anyone has any scientific proof that what i am thinking is incorrect i > > would like to see i dont want speculation but the literature to back up the > > essential need for a binder in case scenario described above. > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5143 - Release Date: 07/20/12 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I do not know anyone who uses psyllium husks as a binder.it helps push feces out of the body but I dont think it acts much as a binder.If you need it to help relieve constipation, use it for that Re: is a binder really neccesary? Posted by: "cameron1000000" cparry@... cameron1000000 Date: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:04 am ((PDT))thank you for your exlpination. is psilosybin I mean psyllium husks a decent organic binder ? I have been using that some as well as glucomannon. Cameron "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fullerhttp://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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