here we go again

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Terry a herx can last several days.keep detoxing , if its brain fog , use my suggestions that get rid of brain fog . You will feel better when the toxins get out of your body but not before .and you have to use detox agents that release the toxins and the binders that catch them.If what you are doing for detox right now is not helping , then use something else.If you still have the burbur take no more than 5 drops, then take apple pectin or other binder.i found apple pectin and or chitosan , worked really well when I was herxing badly.or take two or three different things to release the toxins from your brain and binders.It does not seem to me that the charcoal is working too well for you.granted I think I used charcoaal once or twice , it did not help me

..again , also take source naturals k mag kg to neutralize the ammonia to reduce the brain fogSometimes the only detox that works is several grams of vitamin c hourly , to the point of bowel tolerance and even beyond , as it flushes out the body ( yes once in a while taking vitaminC to the point of diarrhea is helpful to flush out toxins) ( dont do this too often because you lose too much in the way of fluids when you get the runs), but once a week might be helpful for you right now.some people herx for up to five days or even longer , but my feeling is , that if you are herxing beyond three days you need to lessen the time or items that are killing agents.If you are only rifing STOP DO NOT COIL AGAIN UNTIL THE HERX ENDS take detox and binders only .Then coil again.Get through the herx with detox before you treat again.This is a slow pace that you

simply cant rush.This disease sucks , yes we all know that.We have likely all been where you are now.Just keep detoxing several times a day , release the toxins using those things we have told you about, then mop then up with a binder..You are very early in treatment .Its going to be this way for quite a while until you learn the art of detox every single day and until your bacteria load goes down.This may take months , it may even take a year or two.Its a long hard battle , but one that you can get through.slow and steady is what will get you there.You simply cannot rush the process, just keep detoxing and treating detox detox detox, treat , add supportive herbs and supplements , detox treat and on and onYou can also judge what to take for detox by the symptoms of the herx.If its brain fog , then you want to detox for ammonia as well as other detox.If its joint and muscle aches you can take herbs

that relieve joint and muscle aches.Magnesium transdermally helps every system in the body.Jim has lots of file notes on magnesium and what it helps and the right magnesium is transdermal magnesium oil. so your body absorbs magnesium through the skin,bypassing the digestive tract.Too much oral magnesium with make for loose stools ,since magnesium does not absorb well through the digestive tractMy worst symptoms come on when I try to over do it physically , Bu,t see, now, at least I am capable of going long enough that I can have days when I can over do it and all I need is rest .Still, learning the art of building up and storing energy when you have good days, instead of overdoing it, is the trick.Remember Ive been at this for 9 1/2 years.my first 5 were hard years to get through and I often felt discouraged and depressed.Its normal to feel that way with a long term illness, but know that you cant fight and

win/My first three years of this illness i did not know about detoxing , which is probably why i was so sick, plus only using antibiotics for two of those years then getting a rife machine, doing rife and natural treatments, My best success has been chinese medicine along with rifing and rotating what I take..liver detox and other detox agents really have helped, but it takes time I have also learned that illness, especially long term illness depletes the adrenal glands , so i take adrenal glandular supplements and herbs that support the adrenals every single day.Yes I have a half dozen tinctures and a fistful of vitamins and herbal supplements that I take two to 3 times a day .I use sea salt every day to keep my blood pressure at a normal level and to help give me trace minerals..If I forget my adrenal supplements a few days in a row, my body knows it.Right now Im detoxing a staph

infection and the first week was terrible,but I just keep on detoxing , using binders detoxing some more, taking my adrenal supplements , building my immune system.Im sleeping more in the last week than I have in months, But it is what my body needs. and my sinuses which was holding the staph are clearer than they have been in a very long timepace yourself, support your adrenals support your immune system and you will get betterhang in there ,janhere we go again Posted by: "Terence B" candlemn42@... candlemn42@... Date: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:36 am ((PDT))I

coiled friday on my abdomen felt horrible yesterday and am far worse today with all brain symptoms again.I am detoxing detoxing detoxing.How long if this is a herx does it usually last and shouldnt i feel a bit better not worse? "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fullerhttp://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/

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Hi Terence,hang in there. i have had herxes last wks if i over did and also, in the beginning, i didn't know about detoxing.  from what i have read here, herxes can lasts several days even when you are detoxing.  

if you coiled fri, it hit sat., then feeling bad today is par for the course if you did a good coil. you may have a few more days of it also.  so sorry.  if it is too much, you will have to weather this one, but next time back off a little on the time.  what are you coiling for?  i haven't been following this.

when i did abx for bart (while also addressing lyme, babs, and a bunch more co infections as the abx hit them all) i can remember being really sick for wks.  couldn't eat, lost more weight, layed on the couch nauseous, exhausted with fatigue, headache, pain, etc.

my husband was treating also, and he also lost a lot of weight not being able to eat, and nothing bothers his stomach--but that did.  he generally doesn't even herx which presents it's own problems as you don't know if you have what you are treating, or how much is left, if you got it all.  and in his case, the false belief that you don't have anything.  so, actually, if you look at it this way, a herx is not all bad.  pain is good when it can tell you what is wrong.

this treating can make you feel nuts, bouncing back and forth over what is happening.  hang in there and trust what people are telling you.  we've all been there, are there still.

barbara

 

I coiled friday on my abdomen felt horrible yesterday and am far worse today with all brain symptoms again.I am detoxing detoxing detoxing.How long if this is a herx does it usually last and shouldnt i feel a bit better not worse?

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lyme at 432 3 minutes over liver thats all

I coiled friday on my abdomen felt horrible yesterday and am far worse today with all brain symptoms again.I am detoxing detoxing detoxing.How long if this is a herx does it usually last and shouldnt i feel a bit better not worse?

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Terry,

From what you are describing 432 for 3 minutes over your liver this early in the process is too much time. It’s all about getting to a medium or manageable herx. It took my wife and son a few months to get to 3 min.

Terry

From: T.B

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:21 PM

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Subject: Re: here we go again

lyme at 432 3 minutes over liver thats all

I coiled friday on my abdomen felt horrible yesterday and am far worse today with all brain symptoms again.I am detoxing detoxing detoxing.How long if this is a herx does it usually last and shouldnt i feel a bit better not worse?

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lol, you crazy SOB, I started on 15 seconds as recommended on this group

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i tell you maybe thats why i feel like the living dead since sat i am my own worse fing enemy i tell you.....

Subject: Re: here we go againTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 10:34 PM

lol, you crazy SOB, I started on 15 seconds as recommended on this group> > > Â > > > > I coiled friday on my abdomen felt horrible yesterday and am far worse today with all brain symptoms again.I am detoxing

detoxing detoxing.How long if this is a herx does it usually last and shouldnt i feel a bit better not worse?>

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way toooooo much time.  better start detoxing big time.  i did 15 sec the first time and that was too much for me.  have had to go back to bart for a while so didn't do the lyme again yet.  will only do 10 sec. when i start again.

again, better do some serious detox for several days.good luckbarbara

 

i tell you maybe thats why i feel like the living dead since sat i am my own worse fing enemy i tell you.....

Subject: Re: here we go againTo: Lyme_and_Rife

Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 10:34 PM

 

lol, you crazy SOB, I started on 15 seconds as recommended on this group> > >   > > > > I coiled friday on my abdomen felt horrible yesterday and am far worse today with all brain symptoms again.I am detoxing

detoxing detoxing.How long if this is a herx does it usually last and shouldnt i feel a bit better not worse?>

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Hi Terry,

For someone new at Coiling, 3 minutes is a long time...

Most start with 5 - 15 seconds and scale up slowly...

Take care,

Jim

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well jim if i make it tho this i will cut back a bit..

Subject: Re: here we go againTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 8:14 PM

Hi Terry,For someone new at Coiling, 3 minutes is a long time...Most start with 5 - 15 seconds and scale up slowly... Take care,Jim> > > Â > > > > I coiled

friday on my abdomen felt horrible yesterday and am far worse today with all brain symptoms again.I am detoxing detoxing detoxing.How long if this is a herx does it usually last and shouldnt i feel a bit better not worse?>