. Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe

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No Terry you are not F*****There are no truly accurate tests for lyme and coinfections. We know how lyme hides ,so that its not always showing up on tests but we dont truly know why others dont show up.The best thing to do is to treat by the symptoms that you have.There are several sites that have listings of the symptoms of different coinfections.Many overlap with lyme symptoms , so sometimes its hard to know.I find that ART Muscle testing is the best way to test for different bacteria. where do you live? perhaps we can find you a practitioner in ART to help diagnose what you have. try not to get so discouraged.Just keep treating and detoxing and building the immune and adrenals. Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe

Posted by: "cameron1000000" cparry@... cameron1000000 Date: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:30 am ((PDT))Form

what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment.

Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed

antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>>

Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this

literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats

the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this

lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld

told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion> "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fullerhttp://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/

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Subject: . Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believeTo: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 4:02 PM

No Terry you are not F*****

There are no truly accurate tests for lyme and coinfections. We know how lyme hides ,so that its not always showing up on tests but we dont truly know why others dont show up.The best thing to do is to treat by the symptoms that you have.There are several sites that have listings of the symptoms of different coinfections.Many overlap with lyme symptoms , so sometimes its hard to know.I find that ART Muscle testing is the best way to test for different bacteria. where do you live? perhaps we can find you a practitioner in ART to help diagnose what you have.

try not to get so discouraged.Just keep treating and detoxing and building the immune and adrenals

.. Re: lyme coinfection tests what to believe Posted by: "cameron1000000" cparry@... cameron1000000 Date: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:30 am ((PDT))Form what Ive read, those other tick and cat born illnesses, not to mention the plasmas, are even more evasive of the testing they give us. Ive read there are some really labs out there. Does anybody know if any of those others can incyst? or how they evade treatment. Even before I read about encysting and biofilms, I have heard lyme goes into the joints, cartelidge and hard tissues, and logically assumed antibiotics wouldnt work, but we are trained to trust doctors and they act like they know what they are doing.>> Ok here goes now we know that lyme can evade the immune system and can hide from being detected with some ppl this we know.But is there any actual proof that the coinfections can do the same?You read some of this literature and some state they can but has this been studies enough clinically..Or are these doctors just assuming now that bartonella,babs,erch,can dodge being picked up on lab tests.And if thats the case why even test why not just treat?I am very skeptical with this lyme indeed has been proven clinically to hide from detection but the COs from what i understand has not been proven.I been tested through igenix a few years ago and bartonella came up positive was treated with levaquin which gave me

tendinitis and then with zithro for 2 months.Repeat testing showed i still had antibodies toward it and my lld told me that was the norm as you had the infection and yes it was igg only showing..Now the bart i got from a feral cat that scratched me on my property .2 years later which brings us to present i have been retested for all the co infections again through igenex,labcorp.Bart,erch,babs all negative lyme positive igm 23 and 41 band all igg negative..Now am i to believe that i could still have bart because i still do have those type symptoms but then again lyme creates the whole pletora of similar symptoms.I bet is that yes lyme testing is inaccurate as proven but CO testing is accurate..I am sorry i just cant but that all these organisms are strictly a clinical diagnose..Just my opinion>

"Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/