Re: Re: Scanning for best rife frequencies?/

[Guest guest]

lena,i'm a strong believer in FREEDOM OF INFORMATION.  most people on this group are intelligent people who want all the information they can get to make the best choices for them.  if it is confusing to them, they should be the judge of that.  they can always skip a post here and there, which is what i do.  i found that there are times i can't even come here, then times i can't even get off.  my choice.

we all should know all there is out there for us to consider, study it, then choose.  if it doesn't work, make another choice.  no one group can have all the info there is, that is why there are so many groups.  but it is our choice as to what group, or groups, and what info to follow.  

diversity is always good.  we SHOULD take what we can learn from one group and share with another, again, giving more choices.  this is wisdom.  if someone wants to 'silence' another person's input, if it is only what has worked for them, and stated as such, which you have done, that is controlling what info others receive.  i believe that control is dangerous and should not be allowed on this group. 

please don't go.  we need your input, as well as everybody else's.  i don't know where i'd be without your 'crappaccino' info.  it has been truly inspiring and helpful to me.  i talk about your input with others in my family and call you the c.e. guru.  

you are a wealth of knowledge and very much appreciated.  stay!!barbara    

 

Hi Barbara,Yes, you're very lucky to be so near! I hope there's a good connection there for you. I envy you.

I've just been told that I shouldn't refer people to other support groups, that it confuses them and that just because I'm feeling pretty well, I should realize that more than one support group will cause confusion and distress in people who are very sick.  ????

I was still very sick when I joined another invaluable group that has made an equal contribution to my good recovery, so I think this concern underestimates the intelligence, the will to fight and recover that other very sick people have. They should not be deprived of any promising avenue. They should be allowed to choose for themselves. And sometimes, they don't even need to choose, but can have a harmonious blend of more that one protocol. 

I surely hope this isn't true, that my contributions haven't caused distress, as most people in this group know that I have shared at length, with diversity, respect for the many differences our diseases present, with compassion and optimism: something sorely needed in this awful disease. 

This has made me sad. I may not be posting in this group any more, unless the group in general feels my approach has been helpful.

Be well,Léna

 

lena,thanks for the info on dr. loyd.  i live in wa and will contact him.  again, thanks for all your help.  i know this is overwhelming to you, all of us trying to get as much info as we can.  but what you provided is enough for us to go the rest of our way on our own.  you're great!!!

barbara

 

Hi ,

The best way to find frx's that are effective is to post to the group what

you want to rife... You should get some good answers...

Take care,

Jim

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> Hi, So many people seem to have trouble finding the right frequencies with rife machines.

>

> I was wondering if there were any accurate shortcuts to doing this such as using a machine to scan you for the best frequencies then using those frequencies on a rife machine.

>

> Anyone know any specific machines that can do this and any special ways it's done?

>

> How about other shortcuts like muscle testing?

>

> Any additional thoughts appreciated!

>

>

> Bay Area, CA

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Barbara,Your kind words help, but I'm feeling very upset. Being accused of 'trying to get others to go to another group' was so off base, and has left me in shock. As well as I may feel sometimes, I still have Lyme, and such shock is devastating. I am shaking with the injustice of the attack, especially as I regularly recommend this group on other groups and have never offended by doing so, nor have been warned off before.So now I'm accused of being well, so that I can't understand how confusing my recommendations could be. How very patronising toward those who I might have actually helped! I've fought so hard to come back from complete disability, from wishing for death (45 years of Lyme is intense), for this? To be accused of being well, and therefore somehow unable to empathize with the sickness in others?If that is what others believe, who have seen me go through the many circles of hell this disease presents, if others feel that I haven't demonstrated my compassion for their present miseries and despair, then the countless hours I've spent, pouring my heart out here was a mistake. Do I sound upset? I am!I don't need this, but I still want to help others as I know how hard this journey is. I'm just not yet convinced that being here is good for my recovery any more.Thanks again and be well,Léna

lena,i'm a strong believer in FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. most people on this group are intelligent people who want all the information they can get to make the best choices for them. if it is confusing to them, they should be the judge of that. they can always skip a post here and there, which is what i do. i found that there are times i can't even come here, then times i can't even get off. my choice.

we all should know all there is out there for us to consider, study it, then choose. if it doesn't work, make another choice. no one group can have all the info there is, that is why there are so many groups. but it is our choice as to what group, or groups, and what info to follow.

diversity is always good. we SHOULD take what we can learn from one group and share with another, again, giving more choices. this is wisdom. if someone wants to 'silence' another person's input, if it is only what has worked for them, and stated as such, which you have done, that is controlling what info others receive. i believe that control is dangerous and should not be allowed on this group.

please don't go. we need your input, as well as everybody else's. i don't know where i'd be without your 'crappaccino' info. it has been truly inspiring and helpful to me. i talk about your input with others in my family and call you the c.e. guru.

you are a wealth of knowledge and very much appreciated. stay!!barbara

Hi Barbara,Yes, you're very lucky to be so near! I hope there's a good connection there for you. I envy you.

I've just been told that I shouldn't refer people to other support groups, that it confuses them and that just because I'm feeling pretty well, I should realize that more than one support group will cause confusion and distress in people who are very sick. ????

I was still very sick when I joined another invaluable group that has made an equal contribution to my good recovery, so I think this concern underestimates the intelligence, the will to fight and recover that other very sick people have. They should not be deprived of any promising avenue. They should be allowed to choose for themselves. And sometimes, they don't even need to choose, but can have a harmonious blend of more that one protocol.

I surely hope this isn't true, that my contributions haven't caused distress, as most people in this group know that I have shared at length, with diversity, respect for the many differences our diseases present, with compassion and optimism: something sorely needed in this awful disease.

This has made me sad. I may not be posting in this group any more, unless the group in general feels my approach has been helpful.

Be well,Léna

lena,thanks for the info on dr. loyd. i live in wa and will contact him. again, thanks for all your help. i know this is overwhelming to you, all of us trying to get as much info as we can. but what you provided is enough for us to go the rest of our way on our own. you're great!!!

barbara

Hi ,

The best way to find frx's that are effective is to post to the group what

you want to rife... You should get some good answers...

Take care,

Jim

>

>

> Hi, So many people seem to have trouble finding the right frequencies with rife machines.

>

> I was wondering if there were any accurate shortcuts to doing this such as using a machine to scan you for the best frequencies then using those frequencies on a rife machine.

>

> Anyone know any specific machines that can do this and any special ways it's done?

>

> How about other shortcuts like muscle testing?

>

> Any additional thoughts appreciated!

>

>

> Bay Area, CA

>

[Guest guest]

LenaI am on several groups that your own...I find you one of the most helpful and passionate people of all the groups im on...I personally think your a shinning star and make these groups so much better!!!!!!!!!!!! Steelh c The harder you work the luckier you get! To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: Scanning for best rife frequencies?/

Thanks Barbara,Your kind words help, but I'm feeling very upset. Being accused of 'trying to get others to go to another group' was so off base, and has left me in shock. As well as I may feel sometimes, I still have Lyme, and such shock is devastating. I am shaking with the injustice of the attack, especially as I regularly recommend this group on other groups and have never offended by doing so, nor have been warned off before.So

now I'm accused of being well, so that I can't understand how confusing my recommendations could be. How very patronising toward those who I might have actually helped! I've fought so hard to come back from complete disability, from wishing for death (45 years of Lyme is intense), for this? To be accused of being well, and therefore somehow unable to empathize with the sickness in others?If that is what others believe, who have seen me go through the many circles of hell this disease presents, if others feel that I haven't demonstrated my compassion for their present miseries and despair, then the countless hours

I've spent, pouring my heart out here was a mistake. Do I sound upset? I am!I don't need this, but I still want to help others as I know how hard this journey is. I'm just not yet convinced that being here is good for my recovery any more.Thanks again and be well,Léna

lena,i'm a strong believer in FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. most people on this group are intelligent people who want all the information they can get to make the best choices for them. if it is confusing to them, they should be the judge of that. they can always skip a post here and there, which is what i do. i found that there are times i can't even come here, then times i can't even get off. my choice.

we all should know all there is out there for us to consider, study it, then choose. if it doesn't work, make another choice. no one group can have all the info there is, that is why there are so many groups. but it is our choice as to what group, or groups, and what info to follow.

diversity is always good. we SHOULD take what we can learn from one group and share with another, again, giving more choices. this is wisdom. if someone wants to 'silence' another person's input, if it is only what has worked for them, and stated as such, which you have done, that is controlling what info others receive. i believe that control is dangerous and should not be allowed on this group.

please don't go. we need your input, as well as everybody else's. i don't know where i'd be without your 'crappaccino' info. it has been truly inspiring and helpful to me. i talk about your input with others in my family and call you the c.e. guru.

you are a wealth of knowledge and very much appreciated. stay!!barbara

Hi Barbara,Yes, you're very lucky to be so near! I hope there's a good connection there for you. I envy you.

I've just been told that I shouldn't refer people to other support groups, that it confuses them and that just because I'm feeling pretty well, I should realize that more than one support group will cause confusion and distress in people who are very sick. ????

I was still very sick when I joined another invaluable group that has made an equal contribution to my good recovery, so I think this concern underestimates the intelligence, the will to fight and recover that other very sick people have. They should not be deprived of any promising avenue. They should be allowed to choose for themselves. And sometimes, they don't even need to choose, but can have a harmonious blend of more that one protocol.

I surely hope this isn't true, that my contributions haven't caused distress, as most people in this group know that I have shared at length, with diversity, respect for the many differences our diseases present, with compassion and optimism: something sorely needed in this awful disease.

This has made me sad. I may not be posting in this group any more, unless the group in general feels my approach has been helpful.

Be well,Léna

lena,thanks for the info on dr. loyd. i live in wa and will contact him. again, thanks for all your help. i know this is overwhelming to you, all of us trying to get as much info as we can. but what you provided is enough for us to go the rest of our way on our own. you're great!!!

barbara

Hi ,

The best way to find frx's that are effective is to post to the group what

you want to rife... You should get some good answers...

Take care,

Jim

>

>

> Hi, So many people seem to have trouble finding the right frequencies with rife machines.

>

> I was wondering if there were any accurate shortcuts to doing this such as using a machine to scan you for the best frequencies then using those frequencies on a rife machine.

>

> Anyone know any specific machines that can do this and any special ways it's done?

>

> How about other shortcuts like muscle testing?

>

> Any additional thoughts appreciated!

>

>

> Bay Area, CA

>