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I have heard what you are describing called 'tolerance withdrawal'. I think it happens when we are on something for a long time.

I experienced this with Librium and my antidepressant (amitryptiline).

Welcome. You will find help here.

Pat

-----Original Message-----From: Withdrawal_and_Recovery [mailto:Withdrawal_and_Recovery ]On Behalf Of Lynne AndressSent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:16 AMTo: Withdrawal_and_Recovery Subject: New HereHi:I have a long story, which i will post later.Been on paxil for years. The strangest thing is happening, I amfeeling withdrawl symptoms when I have not recently tapered. Anyoneknow what could be happening here? I had tapered down from 40mg to 10mg, which is where I have been forthe last three years - too scared to go any further.Lynne

[Guest guest]

<<I have heard what you are describing

called 'tolerance withdrawal'. I think it happens when we are on

something for a long time.>>

Well I guess that’s good news and

bad news. I am feeling so unwell right now. I am wondering if I need to

increase my dose for awhile

to get stable and then later do a taper?

I am so glad I am here.

Thanks,

Lynne

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<<Educating yourself on what it takes to be truly healthy and

setting a

proper foundation through supplements, nutrition,

and the proper way of

how to titrate will eradicate much of the fear and

get you on the road

to being healthy without the drugs. Welcome!>>

Thanks Casey, I do agree that nutrition is

the problem. Plus the drug

Has made me not want to eat as much healthy

food so I am in quite a mess.

What is “titrate”?

Lynne

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[Guest guest]

Dear Lynne,

Pat wrote:

<<I have heard what you are describing called 'tolerance

withdrawal'. I

think it happens when we are on something for a long time.>>

** Pat is correct about this.

You said:

<< Well I guess that's good news and bad news. I am feeling so

unwell right now. I am wondering if I need to increase my dose for

awhile to get stable and then later do a taper? I am so glad I am

here.>>

** That would be your best option but only raise it minimally --

just eenough to stablilize. Then, let's talk about frotifying your

body for your withdrawal and recovery.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

> ** That would be your best option but only raise it minimally --

> just eenough to stablilize. Then, let's talk about frotifying your

> body for your withdrawal and recovery.

>

Thanks so much . I am a bit frantic right now...this morning

I woke up with one side of my head and face numb and I can't hear well

on that side either.

So how much would you consider a minimal ammount to increase? I am

taking 10mg of Generic Paxil at the moment. I was originally at 40,

and have been at 10mg for around 3 years I think. I was thinking of

increasing to 15 or should I do 20?

How quickly should I feel better?

Lynne

[Guest guest]

Hi Moonshadow,

I am so sorry you are hurting so badly.

I do understand. I have osteoarthrititis in my neck, degenerative

disk disease of the cervical spine and some nerve damage in in lower

back. Both hips hurt, as well as my knees.

As we speak, both feet are swollen. I also have Fibromyalgia and

chronic pain. I am medically retired. I am 42 years old.

I do understand and well. For me, it is one day at a time. More

like minute by minute, really.

I am sorry you lost your job.

--

Kim

[Guest guest]

Sheree wrote:

I know that there will by many of you that feel this same way. Hope

you all might have something that has helped you. I hate that others

are hurting also but it is nice to have others that understand!

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That's why we are here, because for the most part our family and

friends can't take hearing about all of the pain that we are in and we

need each other for solace, since we each can understand what the

other is going through.

I live with my daughter and her family and she tries to be very

understanding, but she has her own issues, so sometimes she loses

patience with me. It's hard on her to know that there is nothing she

can do to help me feel better and on top of that, I have no medical

insurance and she does the best she can afford to get me in to see a

doctor and to buy my meds.

To date, I am on 20 meds and the ones for pain don't help that well

and I don't get the kind of sleep that I need to help recuperate at

all from the pain. Like you, too many sick days caused me to have to

quit working 10 years ago and there isn't any job that I can do now,

although SSI thinks differently.

Welcome to the group and I hope that you find the support here that

you need.

Gentle hugs,

Debi/Ca.-54

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzie. My name is . I am 34 and have 2 kids (12 yo girl and 2

yo boy). I wanted to welcome you to the group. I am sorry that it took

pain to bring you here, but glad that you found us! This is a wonderful

group of people to “chat” with. Anytime you need support, laugh, cry,

anything, you are more than welcome here. That is what we are here for.

I have CRPS (diagnosed in December 06) and fibromyalgia (just diagnosed

about 1 ½ months ago).

[Guest guest]

Suzie, my dad was about your age when he had to have a similar surgery. I've

got spine issues that some surgeons want to operate on but I've not had the

courage to let them for fear that I would not be much better off. I'm 52 now

but have been dealing with back and neck pain since I was in my teens.

We are also both suffering from panic disorder and depression. I will say that

my experience with " The Center " , a county run mental health facility was a

lifesaver. My depression is under control and I'm learning to cope and control

my panic and anxiety. I didn't have money, insurance or medicaid when I started

going there. They base the fee on income. I was helped for free and got my

meds free also using the drug programs that the pharmaceutical companies offer

to those who qualify and apply.

You are not alone, and believe me, it's very theraputic to have someone to talk

to that understands.

Have you tried Cymbalta? That was the one that worked for me. I think it's

important to re-evaluate your medications from time to time and see if changes

are needed.

Welcome,

Jennette

-Suzie wrote:-

But they took my medicaid away, now i have no insurance at all and all this pain

to deal with i take vicodin, darvocet for pain. i also have morphine and kadium

that i dont take, they make me sick

i am also on 4 different depression meds and panic attack meds sorry i just went

on and on and on lol im good at that.

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb,

My name is Carol and I was diagnosed with MS in August of this year. Can you

tell me what GBS/CIDP is. I have never heard of the GBS and it sounds exactly

what I go through every day. I also have had seizures. Never anything as bad

as yours but I have had several and each time I get a little worse.

How can they tell the difference between GBS and MS. Surely brain fog isn't the

only way. I know others with MS who don't have alot of brain fog but have the

lesions to prove MS.

I only have 2 non specific lesions in the brain but from the 2nd to the 6th

vertebrae in my spine I have complete demylenation.

Also, on a MS forum that I belong to there are several people with MS who don't

have brain lesions but have the demylenation and that's how they are diagnosed.

Any way if you don't mind just tell me what GBS is and I can look it up. Thank

you very much.

I'll be praying,

Carol (OK)

[Guest guest]

Hi Jerri,

It is Guillain Barre' Syndrome / Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating

Polyneuropathy

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I suspect that my mother has

BPD and it's gotten to a point that I really don't know how to handle

her anymore. Here's a little background... my parents divorced when

I was 7 (I'm 30 now) and my mom never remarried. Most of my

childhood was fine, a few things that were a little weird, but

overall, nothing too out of the ordinary. When I hit my 20's, I was

still living at home and going to a local college. when I started to

try and spread my wings... All heck broke loose. I wanted to go to a

college about 2000 miles away and two weeks before I was supposed to

leave, my mom quit her job and had a " breakdown " . She didn't want me

to go... so I didn't. A few years later, a friend and I decided we

wanted an apartment together... I told my mom that we were going to

go looking and the next day she started talking about killing herself

and I had to hospitalize her. A few years after that, I'm still

living at home with her and I meet my wonderful husband. We got very

serious, very fast. We had been dating for two weeks and all of the

sudden she gets this mystery illness that doctor's could not explain

or " find " (and we live in Houston... the medical capital of the

world!). Anyway, she did everything in her power to keep me from

getting married. She had me panicked before the wedding b/c she was

so upset that I was making her go live with my grandmother b/c I was

getting married. Anyway... since I got married, everytime I don't do

something she wants me to do, I hear " Since you've been married... I

never see you, you never call (which is a huge lie!), I never see the

grandkids, you have abandoned me " . I'm so tired of it!!! I don't

want to be ugly to her, but I'm so ready to just walk away and never

talk to her again. Every conversation is full of talk of my

inadequacies as a mother and a daughter (although she forgets that I

helped support her while I was in college). I have started believing

all of the horrible things she has told me about myself, even though

I know they aren't true. My husband is biting at the bit to lay into

her verbally, but I won't let him. I feel this obligation to try

and " fix " this, but I know I can't fix her. How have you all dealt

with the BP's in your lives? Especially parents... if it was a

chosen relationship, I wouldn't still be in it... but I feel stuck.

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome. You can't fix her, you just have to put limits to keep her

from affecting your life. Laying into her would just give her another reason

to villainize your husband and more grist for the " since you got married "

mill. BPDs only understand boundaries and limits. Someone else here posted

once, " With a BPD, asking them not to barge into the bathroom when you are

in there will not work, but installing a lock on the door that they can't

break through will work. "

best, girlscout

>

> Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I suspect that my mother has

> BPD and it's gotten to a point that I really don't know how to handle

> her anymore. Here's a little background... my parents divorced when

> I was 7 (I'm 30 now) and my mom never remarried. Most of my

> childhood was fine, a few things that were a little weird, but

> overall, nothing too out of the ordinary. When I hit my 20's, I was

> still living at home and going to a local college. when I started to

> try and spread my wings... All heck broke loose. I wanted to go to a

> college about 2000 miles away and two weeks before I was supposed to

> leave, my mom quit her job and had a " breakdown " . She didn't want me

> to go... so I didn't. A few years later, a friend and I decided we

> wanted an apartment together... I told my mom that we were going to

> go looking and the next day she started talking about killing herself

> and I had to hospitalize her. A few years after that, I'm still

> living at home with her and I meet my wonderful husband. We got very

> serious, very fast. We had been dating for two weeks and all of the

> sudden she gets this mystery illness that doctor's could not explain

> or " find " (and we live in Houston... the medical capital of the

> world!). Anyway, she did everything in her power to keep me from

> getting married. She had me panicked before the wedding b/c she was

> so upset that I was making her go live with my grandmother b/c I was

> getting married. Anyway... since I got married, everytime I don't do

> something she wants me to do, I hear " Since you've been married... I

> never see you, you never call (which is a huge lie!), I never see the

> grandkids, you have abandoned me " . I'm so tired of it!!! I don't

> want to be ugly to her, but I'm so ready to just walk away and never

> talk to her again. Every conversation is full of talk of my

> inadequacies as a mother and a daughter (although she forgets that I

> helped support her while I was in college). I have started believing

> all of the horrible things she has told me about myself, even though

> I know they aren't true. My husband is biting at the bit to lay into

> her verbally, but I won't let him. I feel this obligation to try

> and " fix " this, but I know I can't fix her. How have you all dealt

> with the BP's in your lives? Especially parents... if it was a

> chosen relationship, I wouldn't still be in it... but I feel stuck.

>

>

>