Re: Does this make you physically ill?

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I've often developed headaches from grinding my teeth at night. It's

amazing that we literally clench our jaw so as to stifle our thoughts,

words & feelings!! Our poor bodies take such abuse.

(Lately I feel like a bitch, too. My " emotional-pendulum " is

frequently swinging away from that nice/pleaser position...I'm a

little dangerous at times. I'm hoping it's just a phase & I'll

eventually become more balanced.)

>

> Carla,

>

> I've had this same problem with TMJ. My therapist said it was

because I had learned to suppress my feelings by clenching my jaw very

tightly. When I went to a dentist who specialized in TMJ he fitted me

with a molded mouth-piece that I had to wear 24/7 for a whole year to

correct the misalignment. The mouth-piece prevented me from clenching

my jaw and all these angry emotions began to bubble to the surface

that before that I had successful been able to suppress. Well, let me

tell you, I changed from a 'nice girl - people-pleaser' type to a

'bitch on wheels'! It was actually funny at times to see me going

around 'kicking rocks'. That was the beginning of my healing and lots

of feelings/memories came up (to be healed) -- and it gets better all

the time. I still have to go to the chiropractor on occasion to have

the jaw re-aligned, but my awareness is sharpened and I don't have the

severe headaches that resulted when it was untreated.

>

> Interesting how we accommodate, isn't it?

> AZClown

>

>

>

> Re: Does this make you physically ill?

>

> I almost forgot.. Tend to get chronic TMJ issues. Came home from a

visit to the folks with a

> huge knot in my masseter muscle and could not even open my mouth. I

could barely stick a

> finger between my teeth. I have to get my jaw adjusted my my

chiropractor almost every

> time I visit and then it is always the same misalignment; anterior.

I call it my somebody

> pissed me off adjustment.

>

> Carla

>

>

>

>

>

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Mr. Zarkey,

I had to laugh yesterday. I had my bi-monthly winter visit with my

psychiatrist yesterday afternoon. We were working on some relaxation

techniques and I thought that I was fairly relaxed, but he reads my

body language and noted that my fists were still clenched tightly.

Tightly enough that my fingernails were cutting into the palms of my

hands, but I was relaxed in my mind. He was reminding me that I was

in a safe place and was ok, and I was. It's just not something I

control that well...relaxation.

My body as a whole is generally quite tense. My back and shoulders

hurt constantly. Majority of the problem is just tension that I

carry in my shoulders. I can touch my shoulders to my ears without

even trying. LOL.

Khris

> >

> > Carla,

> >

> > I've had this same problem with TMJ. My therapist said it was

> because I had learned to suppress my feelings by clenching my jaw

very

> tightly. When I went to a dentist who specialized in TMJ he fitted

me

> with a molded mouth-piece that I had to wear 24/7 for a whole year

to

> correct the misalignment. The mouth-piece prevented me from

clenching

> my jaw and all these angry emotions began to bubble to the surface

> that before that I had successful been able to suppress. Well, let

me

> tell you, I changed from a 'nice girl - people-pleaser' type to a

> 'bitch on wheels'! It was actually funny at times to see me going

> around 'kicking rocks'. That was the beginning of my healing and

lots

> of feelings/memories came up (to be healed) -- and it gets better

all

> the time. I still have to go to the chiropractor on occasion to

have

> the jaw re-aligned, but my awareness is sharpened and I don't have

the

> severe headaches that resulted when it was untreated.

> >

> > Interesting how we accommodate, isn't it?

> > AZClown

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Does this make you physically

ill?

> >

> > I almost forgot.. Tend to get chronic TMJ issues. Came home from a

> visit to the folks with a

> > huge knot in my masseter muscle and could not even open my mouth.

I

> could barely stick a

> > finger between my teeth. I have to get my jaw adjusted my my

> chiropractor almost every

> > time I visit and then it is always the same misalignment;

anterior.

> I call it my somebody

> > pissed me off adjustment.

> >

> > Carla

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yikes! That's crazy!! We're like rubberbands waiting to snap. I used

to do yoga, but threw out my hip. Then I started swimming & developed

chronic sinus problems...ya can't win. Walking is good, but it doesn't

relax those tight muscles!

> > >

> > > Carla,

> > >

> > > I've had this same problem with TMJ. My therapist said it was

> > because I had learned to suppress my feelings by clenching my jaw

> very

> > tightly. When I went to a dentist who specialized in TMJ he fitted

> me

> > with a molded mouth-piece that I had to wear 24/7 for a whole year

> to

> > correct the misalignment. The mouth-piece prevented me from

> clenching

> > my jaw and all these angry emotions began to bubble to the surface

> > that before that I had successful been able to suppress. Well, let

> me

> > tell you, I changed from a 'nice girl - people-pleaser' type to a

> > 'bitch on wheels'! It was actually funny at times to see me going

> > around 'kicking rocks'. That was the beginning of my healing and

> lots

> > of feelings/memories came up (to be healed) -- and it gets better

> all

> > the time. I still have to go to the chiropractor on occasion to

> have

> > the jaw re-aligned, but my awareness is sharpened and I don't have

> the

> > severe headaches that resulted when it was untreated.

> > >

> > > Interesting how we accommodate, isn't it?

> > > AZClown

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: Does this make you physically

> ill?

> > >

> > > I almost forgot.. Tend to get chronic TMJ issues. Came home from a

> > visit to the folks with a

> > > huge knot in my masseter muscle and could not even open my mouth.

> I

> > could barely stick a

> > > finger between my teeth. I have to get my jaw adjusted my my

> > chiropractor almost every

> > > time I visit and then it is always the same misalignment;

> anterior.

> > I call it my somebody

> > > pissed me off adjustment.

> > >

> > > Carla

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Oh and I forgot, besides chronic depression and anxiety, etc.,

psorisis. The psorisis is agravated when I'm stressed, which is all

the time.

> > >

> > > Carla,

> > >

> > > I've had this same problem with TMJ. My therapist said it was

> > because I had learned to suppress my feelings by clenching my jaw

> very

> > tightly. When I went to a dentist who specialized in TMJ he

fitted

> me

> > with a molded mouth-piece that I had to wear 24/7 for a whole

year

> to

> > correct the misalignment. The mouth-piece prevented me from

> clenching

> > my jaw and all these angry emotions began to bubble to the surface

> > that before that I had successful been able to suppress. Well,

let

> me

> > tell you, I changed from a 'nice girl - people-pleaser' type to a

> > 'bitch on wheels'! It was actually funny at times to see me going

> > around 'kicking rocks'. That was the beginning of my healing and

> lots

> > of feelings/memories came up (to be healed) -- and it gets better

> all

> > the time. I still have to go to the chiropractor on occasion to

> have

> > the jaw re-aligned, but my awareness is sharpened and I don't

have

> the

> > severe headaches that resulted when it was untreated.

> > >

> > > Interesting how we accommodate, isn't it?

> > > AZClown

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: Does this make you physically

> ill?

> > >

> > > I almost forgot.. Tend to get chronic TMJ issues. Came home

from a

> > visit to the folks with a

> > > huge knot in my masseter muscle and could not even open my

mouth.

> I

> > could barely stick a

> > > finger between my teeth. I have to get my jaw adjusted my my

> > chiropractor almost every

> > > time I visit and then it is always the same misalignment;

> anterior.

> > I call it my somebody

> > > pissed me off adjustment.

> > >

> > > Carla

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > >

[Guest guest]

Well you know what they say about exercise: Start slowly and taper

off from there!

-Kyla

[Guest guest]

I like to put on my running shoes, grab my mp3 player and go.......I

don't have to talk to anyone, I can just let the music carry my

thoughts -- and I feel so much better when I'm done. It really is a

natural mood lifter. I skipped it for about 2 weeks during the

holidays until today -- and yesterday I was really depressed. Today

I'm back to feeling normal again.

-Kyla

> > > >

> > > > Carla,

> > > >

> > > > I've had this same problem with TMJ. My therapist said it

was

> > > because I had learned to suppress my feelings by clenching my

jaw

> > very

> > > tightly. When I went to a dentist who specialized in TMJ he

> fitted

> > me

> > > with a molded mouth-piece that I had to wear 24/7 for a whole

> year

> > to

> > > correct the misalignment. The mouth-piece prevented me from

> > clenching

> > > my jaw and all these angry emotions began to bubble to the

surface

> > > that before that I had successful been able to suppress.

Well,

> let

> > me

> > > tell you, I changed from a 'nice girl - people-pleaser' type

to a

> > > 'bitch on wheels'! It was actually funny at times to see me

going

> > > around 'kicking rocks'. That was the beginning of my healing

and

> > lots

> > > of feelings/memories came up (to be healed) -- and it gets

better

> > all

> > > the time. I still have to go to the chiropractor on occasion

to

> > have

> > > the jaw re-aligned, but my awareness is sharpened and I don't

> have

> > the

> > > severe headaches that resulted when it was untreated.

> > > >

> > > > Interesting how we accommodate, isn't it?

> > > > AZClown

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Re: Does this make you

physically

> > ill?

> > > >

> > > > I almost forgot.. Tend to get chronic TMJ issues. Came home

> from a

> > > visit to the folks with a

> > > > huge knot in my masseter muscle and could not even open my

> mouth.

> > I

> > > could barely stick a

> > > > finger between my teeth. I have to get my jaw adjusted my my

> > > chiropractor almost every

> > > > time I visit and then it is always the same misalignment;

> > anterior.

> > > I call it my somebody

> > > > pissed me off adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Carla

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm starting a yoga class in February. Shouldn't be too hard on my

back.

My kids were teasing me over the holidays (pleasurable teasing) in

response to my HB jogging all last year and losing some 25 pounds,

that " Mom would never go running with you " ... apparently because all

three of my children and my soon to be son-in-law figured that I

would get a block from my house, be tired and without my customary

coffee in one hand and cigarette in the other. They then joked that

I would be too tired to make my way back home and would likely just

sit on the curb and await my HB's return to walk back home. They

were right. I am horribly inactive. I've never had a weight

problem. I weigh 105 soakin' wet. I guess I just figured it was

easier to sit on the sofa and cruise, but I'm pushing 40 now. I

better get busy or I'll be old before my time and just like my Nada -

smoking and drinking coffee on a curb somewhere bitchin' about how my

life sucks. Not for this girl!

Khris

> > > > >

> > > > > Carla,

> > > > >

> > > > > I've had this same problem with TMJ. My therapist said it

> was

> > > > because I had learned to suppress my feelings by clenching my

> jaw

> > > very

> > > > tightly. When I went to a dentist who specialized in TMJ he

> > fitted

> > > me

> > > > with a molded mouth-piece that I had to wear 24/7 for a whole

> > year

> > > to

> > > > correct the misalignment. The mouth-piece prevented me from

> > > clenching

> > > > my jaw and all these angry emotions began to bubble to the

> surface

> > > > that before that I had successful been able to suppress.

> Well,

> > let

> > > me

> > > > tell you, I changed from a 'nice girl - people-pleaser' type

> to a

> > > > 'bitch on wheels'! It was actually funny at times to see me

> going

> > > > around 'kicking rocks'. That was the beginning of my healing

> and

> > > lots

> > > > of feelings/memories came up (to be healed) -- and it gets

> better

> > > all

> > > > the time. I still have to go to the chiropractor on occasion

> to

> > > have

> > > > the jaw re-aligned, but my awareness is sharpened and I don't

> > have

> > > the

> > > > severe headaches that resulted when it was untreated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Interesting how we accommodate, isn't it?

> > > > > AZClown

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: Does this make you

> physically

> > > ill?

> > > > >

> > > > > I almost forgot.. Tend to get chronic TMJ issues. Came home

> > from a

> > > > visit to the folks with a

> > > > > huge knot in my masseter muscle and could not even open my

> > mouth.

> > > I

> > > > could barely stick a

> > > > > finger between my teeth. I have to get my jaw adjusted my my

> > > > chiropractor almost every

> > > > > time I visit and then it is always the same misalignment;

> > > anterior.

> > > > I call it my somebody

> > > > > pissed me off adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Carla

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

When I was young, my hands broke out constantly, and I would scratch

at them. The doctor decided that it was because of the dust in

school books. Yeah, right. Well, at least that way I got brand new

school books every year...*L*

Stress, stress, stress and all the manifestations of said stress.

Blood pressure, you name it, we have it. And of course, that would

lead to our BPD parents criticizing us for all our maladies, or

blaming others for them. My mother still says that my father was

depressed because of the death of his mother when he was 18. Well,

how about the 45 plus years he had to live with you? Rest in peace,

dad.

>

> Hi all:

>

> I have a quick question and I would appreciate any answers you can

send

> me. I'm writing something in my new book about the mind-body

connection

> and physical and mental illness. I've always believed that

children of

> BPs often have ongoing, chronic medical problems. Thinking about

your

> time in this group, have other people mentioned any ongoing

physical

> illness THAT IS MORE than you'd find in any population of this

size?

>

> And MOST IMPORTANT, if you are ill in some chronic way, is it

better or

> worse depending upon exposure to the BP parent?

>

> PLEASE SEND ME YOUR FEEDBACK AT RandiBPD@... You might want

> to talk about it at length here, but I don't need big long

explnations.

> The shorter the better.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Randi Kreger

>

[Guest guest]

For some reason, it took me a while to reply to this post.

Starting when I was about 7 or 8 years old, I had SEVERE asthma. I

was hospitalized 2 or 3 times a year for it until I was 16 or 17. It

was just out of control.

I moved to Kentucky, stopped taking my meds (I was so sick of being

18 years old and taking 6 meds a day) and started smoking cigarettes

and I haven't had an asthma problem since.

I say that my asthma stopped when I moved to KY, but it makes me

wonder if my asthma was stressed induced. It may just be a

coincidence that as soon as I moved away from NADA that my asthma

went away.

When she moved into my town a year ago there were times where I felt

like I had trouble breathing.

But most of all I developed terrible stomach problems. Those went

away as soon as I went NC.

I have broken into hives 3 times because of stress. I'm not allergic

to anything, but there were times where I woke up in the morning and

my whole body was covered in hives. Doctor couldn't find the cause

except for stress.

I didn't realize the phyiscal toll my NADA was bringing onto me

until I cut off contact and no longer had the issues.

>

> Hi all:

>

> I have a quick question and I would appreciate any answers you can

send

> me. I'm writing something in my new book about the mind-body

connection

> and physical and mental illness. I've always believed that

children of

> BPs often have ongoing, chronic medical problems. Thinking about

your

> time in this group, have other people mentioned any ongoing

physical

> illness THAT IS MORE than you'd find in any population of this

size?

>

> And MOST IMPORTANT, if you are ill in some chronic way, is it

better or

> worse depending upon exposure to the BP parent?

>

> PLEASE SEND ME YOUR FEEDBACK AT RandiBPD@... You might want

> to talk about it at length here, but I don't need big long

explnations.

> The shorter the better.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Randi Kreger

>

[Guest guest]

I also suffer from headaches. Actually, I was diagnosed at age 13 with Leukemia

and I always told my mom it was because of the stress in our lives. Who knows

but, I do believe in the mind/ body connection.

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Sara Jo

next time your nada rants at you you can claim she makes you break out in hives

and you

will have to go NC until there is a cure.

Carla

[Guest guest]

Yes, you'll balance out -- and a pendulum is a good example. When we've been

suppressing emotions, there is a period of balance as they come up and it feels

scary. It's safe to go ahead and feel them -- and find an appropriate way to

express them. I've done stomping walks -- where you walk and stomp and spew out

all the venom you can think of (best done in an isolated area :-)) and pillow

punching (same as above), as well as screaming at the top of my lungs in my car,

with the windows rolled up and on an open highway.. Another technique I've done

is to cover my mouth and scream into my hands while rocking from side-to-side to

release the energy. All of these things release the energy that is stuck in our

bodies so we don't get sick -- they really do help.

Re: Does this make you physically ill?

>

> I almost forgot.. Tend to get chronic TMJ issues. Came home from a

visit to the folks with a

> huge knot in my masseter muscle and could not even open my mouth.. I

could barely stick a

> finger between my teeth. I have to get my jaw adjusted my my

chiropractor almost every

> time I visit and then it is always the same misalignment; anterior.

I call it my somebody

> pissed me off adjustment.

>

> Carla

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Randi,

I was diagnosed with GERD (acid reflux) at 17. It was a combination

of things (stomach problems run on my dad's side of the family,

stress of senior year of high school, etc.), but I've noticed that it

bothers me more when I'm around nada for too long and she's in one of

her raging moods. My symptoms flare up then and I'm typically curled

up in a ball because my stomach hurts so badly. My medication is

$230 a month, but nothing else works and the doctors say it's chronic.

Additionally, my therapist diagnosed me with a depression-anxiety

disorder. He says it is " situation-related, " meaning it's due to my

nada.

Hope this helps!

>

> Hi all:

>

> I have a quick question and I would appreciate any answers you can

send

> me. I'm writing something in my new book about the mind-body

connection

> and physical and mental illness. I've always believed that children

of

> BPs often have ongoing, chronic medical problems. Thinking about

your

> time in this group, have other people mentioned any ongoing

physical

> illness THAT IS MORE than you'd find in any population of this size?

>

> And MOST IMPORTANT, if you are ill in some chronic way, is it

better or

> worse depending upon exposure to the BP parent?

>

> PLEASE SEND ME YOUR FEEDBACK AT RandiBPD@... You might want

> to talk about it at length here, but I don't need big long

explnations.

> The shorter the better.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Randi Kreger

>