Guest guest Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. However, it appears " all " my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance. My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be. Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Sorry J , Sorry to hear you have troubel with your coil I am of no help but someone will help you soon on the forum for sure if nobody answer then ask to Terry on the subject to attrack his attention .He is very hlepfull Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:55 PMSubject: Doug Coil No Longer Working I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. However, it appears "all" my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance.My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be.Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 J, I will be out of the office for the better part of today. I will touch base with you as soon as I can. Terry From: Marie Benoit Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:07 PM To: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working Sorry J , Sorry to hear you have troubel with your coil I am of no help but someone will help you soon on the forum for sure if nobody answer then ask to Terry on the subject to attrack his attention .He is very hlepfull Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:55 PMSubject: Doug Coil No Longer Working I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. However, it appears "all" my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance.My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be.Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Where did you get your coil. the person you bought it from should help you and maybe get an electrician to come in and see it. but do check for connections. becaue i had that issue once, one of the wires was not connected.DamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: drkenmorris@...Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:36:51 -0500Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working I would test every part of the unit separately to see if they are functioning properly. The frequency generator, the amplifier, etc. You could also have a cord or wire that has become disconnected somewhere…...however if the A switch works then I would think that you have most of that covered. Understand that the capacitors can continue to hold a charge so I would be careful working with those. To measure the resistors you will have to take those out of the circuit to measure those. It sounds as though there is a disconnect that is happening between your A switch and everything else…..so I would look at all my connections very carefully. Other than that you may check with Dr. Levy…..who is a pro with these things. Ken I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. However, it appears "all" my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance. My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be. Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated. Thanks! -- Dr. Ken Ed.D., LCPC, RAODACExecutive DirectorAccurate Assessments and Treatment15022 W. 128th St.Olathe, KS 66062FAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks Marie Benoit. Thanks for responding Terry. I'm glad you did and that's no problem. Whenever you get a chance to respond is fine with me. I've been looking over the capacitor array for awhile looking for any loose connections and I rewired some areas but that didn't make a difference. There doesn't appear to have been any loose connections from what I can tell. I'm starting to think that a resistor or a couple resistors went out. The reason why I'm thinking that is it appears that the very low frequencies will run but not the high frequencies and especially not the very high frequencies such as 2128. If I unplug the Doug Coil and let it rest for many hours I'm able to get a minute or so on 727 Hz or around there at about 5 amps but not the higher frequencies. Then the amp meter starts to swing up and down and then drops down to almost zero. Because it appears that it has a harder time running the higher frequencies, I'm thinking this is due to the higher voltage from the higher frequencies. When I'm able to run 727 Hz for a minute at 5 amps, there is a sizzling sound that appears to come from one side of the resistors. Is there a way I can check if a resistor went out? If not, I can always buy 10 new resistors and cross my fingers that that was the problem. I own the recommended Meterman 37XR multimeter and I also have the recommended amp meter (yokohama I believe is the name) hooked up to it as well. Thanks you for your time. > > J, > > I will be out of the office for the better part of today. I will touch base with you as soon as I can. > > Terry > > From: Marie Benoit > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:07 PM > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working > > > > Sorry J , > Sorry to hear you have troubel with your coil I am of no help but someone will help you soon on the forum for sure if nobody answer then ask to Terry on the subject to attrack his attention .He is very hlepfull > Kindly Marie > > > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:55 PM > Subject: Doug Coil No Longer Working > > > > I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. > > However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. > > The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. > > The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. > > However, it appears " all " my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. > > I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance. > > My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be. > > Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated. > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks for the info Dr. Ken & damarise ignitus. I built it myself and looks and is wired basically identical to the current model of Doug Coils. I tested the frequency generator and it works perfect. I have a second coil and using the second coil doesn't change. I don't know how to check the amp but I'll have to look into that. I rewired part of the Doug Coil and gave a good pull on the connections with no change. I measured the capacitors as one is able to even though they are still connected in the capacitor array and there doesn't appear to be any change in capacitance. Although, I'm not sure if I blew a capacitor or all of them if the capacitance would change? I tried measuring the resistors. They are soldered. One side I get a very low reading of .1 ohms on the multimeter (I believe the setting is ohms) on each resistor on one side. The other side that I'm guessing that does a sizzling sound is reading 0 ohms. I bought a bunch of resistors and will replace the old ones and cross my fingers that that was the issue. I think I'll also make a new coil of 5 or 6 mH for frequencies in the 2000 Hz range to prevent this in the future. If anyone has anything else for me to check that I forgot I'd appreciate it. Mostly, how to measure the amp I don't know how to check that. Thanks. > > > > Where did you get your coil. the person you bought it from should help you and maybe get an electrician to come in and see it. but do check for connections. becaue i had that issue once, one of the wires was not connected. > Damarise > To: Lyme_and_Rife > From: drkenmorris@... > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:36:51 -0500 > Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would test every part of the unit separately to see if they are functioning properly. The frequency generator, the amplifier, etc. You could also have a cord or wire that has become disconnected somewhere…...however if the A switch works then I would think that you have most of that covered. Understand that the capacitors can continue to hold a charge so I would be careful working with those. To measure the resistors you will have to take those out of the circuit to measure those. It sounds as though there is a disconnect that is happening between your A switch and everything else…..so I would look at all my connections very carefully. Other than that you may check with Dr. Levy…..who is a pro with these things. > > Ken > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi JPD710 If you have a sizzling sound it usually indicates that a connection is arcing under load..This happens where components go down through a circuit board..under load it can not handle the supply current so it arcs and this creates a resistance and drops the supply voltage..Best way to find it is to operate it until you hear the sizzling sound for a few seconds..then feel the connections to see if any are hot..If you find a hot terminal, resolder it to make a good connection. and your problem is solved..I am a service technician Hope this helps Alvin From: jdp710 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 10:44 PM To: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working Thanks Marie Benoit. Thanks for responding Terry. I'm glad you did and that's no problem. Whenever you get a chance to respond is fine with me. I've been looking over the capacitor array for awhile looking for any loose connections and I rewired some areas but that didn't make a difference. There doesn't appear to have been any loose connections from what I can tell. I'm starting to think that a resistor or a couple resistors went out. The reason why I'm thinking that is it appears that the very low frequencies will run but not the high frequencies and especially not the very high frequencies such as 2128. If I unplug the Doug Coil and let it rest for many hours I'm able to get a minute or so on 727 Hz or around there at about 5 amps but not the higher frequencies. Then the amp meter starts to swing up and down and then drops down to almost zero. Because it appears that it has a harder time running the higher frequencies, I'm thinking this is due to the higher voltage from the higher frequencies.When I'm able to run 727 Hz for a minute at 5 amps, there is a sizzling sound that appears to come from one side of the resistors. Is there a way I can check if a resistor went out? If not, I can always buy 10 new resistors and cross my fingers that that was the problem. I own the recommended Meterman 37XR multimeter and I also have the recommended amp meter (yokohama I believe is the name) hooked up to it as well.Thanks you for your time. >> J,> > I will be out of the office for the better part of today. I will touch base with you as soon as I can.> > Terry> > From: Marie Benoit > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:07 PM> To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working> > > > Sorry J ,> Sorry to hear you have troubel with your coil I am of no help but someone will help you soon on the forum for sure if nobody answer then ask to Terry on the subject to attrack his attention .He is very hlepfull> Kindly Marie > > > To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:55 PM> Subject: Doug Coil No Longer Working> > > > I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. > > However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. > > The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. > > The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. > > However, it appears "all" my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. > > I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance.> > My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be.> > Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated.> > Thanks!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hi AJR and everyone, I have many of the connections covered with electrical tape so I wasn't able to find a source of heat after the sizzling sound. With that said, I decided and have just removed everything from the capacitor array. I will reuse the switches and capacitors with all new resistors and all new electrical wiring. It will take me a week for the new resistors, wiring, etc. to arrive so I can redo the whole capacitor array from scratch. Thanks for the help everyone. I'm sure it was either a faulty connection or the resistors and I'm going to rebuild it from scratch. Thanks again. > > > > J, > > > > I will be out of the office for the better part of today. I will touch base with you as soon as I can. > > > > Terry > > > > From: Marie Benoit > > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:07 PM > > To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working > > > > > > > > Sorry J , > > Sorry to hear you have troubel with your coil I am of no help but someone will help you soon on the forum for sure if nobody answer then ask to Terry on the subject to attrack his attention .He is very hlepfull > > Kindly Marie > > > > From: jdp710 <jpeters868@> > > To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:55 PM > > Subject: Doug Coil No Longer Working > > > > > > > > I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. > > > > However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. > > > > The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. > > > > The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. > > > > However, it appears " all " my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. > > > > I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance. > > > > My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be. > > > > Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 JPD, Sorry for not responding sooner I have had a crazy couple of weeks. If you like I can go over the whole thing for you. I am sure that I could pinpoint the problem or problems. The only cost to you at that point would be shipping and the parts that you may need and I probably have them on hand Terry Fro m: jdp710 Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:40 PM To: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working Hi AJR and everyone,I have many of the connections covered with electrical tape so I wasn't able to find a source of heat after the sizzling sound. With that said, I decided and have just removed everything from the capacitor array.I will reuse the switches and capacitors with all new resistors and all new electrical wiring. It will take me a week for the new resistors, wiring, etc. to arrive so I can redo the whole capacitor array from scratch. Thanks for the help everyone. I'm sure it was either a faulty connection or the resistors and I'm going to rebuild it from scratch. Thanks again. > >> > J,> > > > I will be out of the office for the better part of today. I will touch base with you as soon as I can.> > > > Terry> > > > From: Marie Benoit > > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:07 PM> > To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: Doug Coil No Longer Working> > > > > > > > Sorry J ,> > Sorry to hear you have troubel with your coil I am of no help but someone will help you soon on the forum for sure if nobody answer then ask to Terry on the subject to attrack his attention .He is very hlepfull> > Kindly Marie > > > > From: jdp710 <jpeters868@>> > To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:55 PM> > Subject: Doug Coil No Longer Working> > > > > > > > I have a home built Doug Coil unit thanks to Stollar's instructions. The unit has has worked perfectly for over a year. > > > > However, I must've raised the voltage too high for too long as at the end of the session while running 2128 the coil and array are no longer humming. > > > > The two lights still turn on by the amplifier gain knobs. The amplifier turns on and the fan kicks on. > > > > The A switch (no capacitors) still works and the Doug Coil works perfectly here for the low frequencies. > > > > However, it appears "all" my capicators are no longer working as I'm not able to go past about 1 amp when I turn up the volume on the frequency generator on any frequency and capacitor setting. > > > > I've measured the capacitors capacitance with a multimeter and they still measure the same capacitance.> > > > My question is, is there a way to find out which capicators are broken with a multimeter? Or if it's a problem with the resistors? Or any other possible issues it may be.> > > > Any troubleshooting information is very much appreciated.> > > > Thanks!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hi Terry, That's no problem at all. I hope things get better for you. Also, thanks for the offer. That's very kind. The Doug Coil isn't hard to rewire once you've done it before and I'm thinking that rewiring and changing out the resistors should fix the problem. I've also been looking everything over and I think rather than soldering the capacitors and resistors again, I think I'm just going to connect them directly to terminal barrier strips. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=12+Position+Terminal+barrier+ & _sacat=0 & _odkw\ = & item=320959006899 & pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & _osacat=0 & hash=item4abaa5c8b3 & _ssn=goo\ dbuy7888 or a whole bunch of these http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=Dual+2+Position+Terminal+barrier+ & _sacat=0 & _\ odkw= & item=390375448517 & pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & _osacat=0 & hash=item5ae4309fc5 & _ssn\ =goodbuy7888 That should cut down on the time (I think) and I wouldn't have to solder anything in the capacitor array. Just a heads up in case it's something you wish to explore to see if it helps your building. > > JPD, > > Sorry for not responding sooner I have had a crazy couple of weeks. If you like I can go over the whole thing for you. I am sure that I could pinpoint the problem or problems. The only cost to you at that point would be shipping and the parts that you may need and I probably have them on hand > > Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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