Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Well said Jan. I was one of those people who did not fair well on MMS. It exacerbated an ulcer that I had and really caused a lot of gut pain. After two months of using it I had to stop. I still use it in my water pick but that is all. As far as recommending other groups I have done this from time to time when people are interested in building their own coil machine I have recommended the hd1850 yahoo group. I guess the question needs to be asked, are we looking to provide people with valuable information that might help them in their healing journey? Or are we going to let right fighting and ego stand in the way? > > Sorry but I stand behind Lena on this one .I consistently recommend several groups to people who are looking for other alternatives.The only group i know of that Lena consistently recommends is one involving the salt/C protocol which works for many people.It also talks about additional supplements or herbs and they talk about rife there as well and are directed to this group by myself and others.Marc has no issue with this > > > The personal issues that you have with that group leader and his with you is over his nay saying about MMS( of which he has known of people who have had problems from it) which you are devoted to as an extreme fan of it.Is that why you object to it? and why target only Lena, just about all of us old timers toss out names of other groups. > > Yes newcomers have problems with overloads of information at times.If I dont make files about new things I find from groups that might be helpful , my brain will still get muddled , even after 9 years of treatment > > .Information and knowledge bring power It brings power to our ability to heal by knowing about what is out there. > Each week I get kudos in private emails thanking me for all the information that I put out there and the links to the groups that back up that information > > To each of you who are new, I know it is hard and confusing.Simply make a text file of all the additional things you read and save them for later. The information will prove needed and valuable at some later date > > > Lena is one person who has healed a lot and shares what has helped healed her , without marketing- unlike some people who try to market products that they sell.nor does she put out fanatical information about any product ( this is a miracle cure , there is nothing better it does all the maker of it claims etc), she puts out information of value that has worked for her.I thought that this is what this list was about,the sharing of information > Granted , shorter emails with spaced typing between short paragraphs are easier to read and understand > > > If people feel confused reading a topic,this is the purpose of the digest form of emails, is so that you can scroll through information you dont want to read . > So that is what I advise if a subject gets you too bogged down, make sure people are on digest and scroll past the things that you dont wish to read > > Perhaps you are having an emotional overload herx if you object to informative posts > > > shakes head sadly > > > 8. Message to the group > Posted by: " Lyme_and_Rife-owner " Lyme_and_Rife-owner > Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:53 pm ((PDT)) > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Thanks , I admire you and respect your opinion. You have been a long time member, and I am relatively new and don't know as much about the history of the group. I am following the discussion with great interest and concern, and do not want to lose Lena, either. I still agree with my earlier posts supporting her. Now I see there are many points of view, possibly all valid. So at this point I am choosing to withdraw from the public discussion. Khaya > > > > > > > > Sorry but I stand behind Lena on this one .I consistently recommend several groups to people who are looking for other alternatives.The only group i know of that Lena consistently recommends is one involving the salt/C protocol which works for many people.It also talks about additional supplements or herbs and they talk about rife there as well and are directed to this group by myself and others.Marc has no issue with this > > > > > > > > > > > > The personal issues that you have with that group leader and his with you is over his nay saying about MMS( of which he has known of people who have had problems from it) which you are devoted to as an extreme fan of it.Is that why you object to it? and why target only Lena, just about all of us old timers toss out names of other groups. > > > > > > > > Yes newcomers have problems with overloads of information at times.If I dont make files about new things I find from groups that might be helpful , my brain will still get muddled , even after 9 years of treatment > > > > > > > > .Information and knowledge bring power It brings power to our ability to heal by knowing about what is out there. > > > > Each week I get kudos in private emails thanking me for all the information that I put out there and the links to the groups that back up that information > > > > > > > > To each of you who are new, I know it is hard and confusing.Simply make a text file of all the additional things you read and save them for later. The information will prove needed and valuable at some later date > > > > > > > > > > > > Lena is one person who has healed a lot and shares what has helped healed her , without marketing- unlike some people who try to market products that they sell.nor does she put out fanatical information about any product ( this is a miracle cure , there is nothing better it does all the maker of it claims etc), she puts out information of value that has worked for her.I thought that this is what this list was about,the sharing of information > > > > Granted , shorter emails with spaced typing between short paragraphs are easier to read and understand > > > > > > > > > > > > If people feel confused reading a topic,this is the purpose of the digest form of emails, is so that you can scroll through information you dont want to read . > > > > So that is what I advise if a subject gets you too bogged down, make sure people are on digest and scroll past the things that you dont wish to read > > > > > > > > Perhaps you are having an emotional overload herx if you object to informative posts > > > > > > > > > > > > shakes head sadly > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Message to the group > > > > Posted by: " Lyme_and_Rife-owner " Lyme_and_Rife-owner > > > > Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:53 pm ((PDT)) > > > > > > > > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Jim, If you want these public posts to end, I suggest you communicate directly with rather than scream at her on the public forum. You are obviously very angry, and probably rightly so. But it is not in the best interest of the forum to show your anger with everyone. Really. I'm an old lady, and I know what I'm talking about, even if I don't know as much as you do about most things. Stop and take some deep breaths, please! Work outside for a while and then come back. I'm with you, but you need to control yourself. Hugs, Khaya > > > > > > > > > > Sorry but I stand behind Lena on this one .I consistently > recommend several groups to people who are looking for other > alternatives.The only group i know of that Lena consistently recommends > is one involving the salt/C protocol which works for many people.It also > talks about additional supplements or herbs and they talk about rife > there as well and are directed to this group by myself and others.Marc > has no issue with this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The personal issues that you have with that group leader and his > with you is over his nay saying about MMS( of which he has known of > people who have had problems from it) which you are devoted to as an > extreme fan of it.Is that why you object to it? and why target only > Lena, just about all of us old timers toss out names of other groups. > > > > > > > > > > Yes newcomers have problems with overloads of information at > times.If I dont make files about new things I find from groups that > might be helpful , my brain will still get muddled , even after 9 years > of treatment > > > > > > > > > > .Information and knowledge bring power It brings power to our > ability to heal by knowing about what is out there. > > > > > Each week I get kudos in private emails thanking me for all the > information that I put out there and the links to the groups that back > up that information > > > > > > > > > > To each of you who are new, I know it is hard and > confusing.Simply make a text file of all the additional things you read > and save them for later. The information will prove needed and valuable > at some later date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lena is one person who has healed a lot and shares what has > helped healed her , without marketing- unlike some people who try to > market products that they sell.nor does she put out fanatical > information about any product ( this is a miracle cure , there is > nothing better it does all the maker of it claims etc), she puts out > information of value that has worked for her.I thought that this is what > this list was about,the sharing of information > > > > > Granted , shorter emails with spaced typing between short > paragraphs are easier to read and understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If people feel confused reading a topic,this is the purpose of > the digest form of emails, is so that you can scroll through information > you dont want to read . > > > > > So that is what I advise if a subject gets you too bogged down, > make sure people are on digest and scroll past the things that you dont > wish to read > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you are having an emotional overload herx if you object > to informative posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shakes head sadly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Message to the group > > > > > Posted by: " Lyme_and_Rife-owner " > Lyme_and_Rife-owner > > > > > Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:53 pm ((PDT)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with > the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-diff\ > erently/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Khaya, When someone starts a discussion on group or about me, it will be discussed on group... It would have been up to to take it off group. She chose not to. I think it is terrible that any group member would talk about a moderator on group and they do not even have the full story of what happened... This is not a democracy, I own this group... I am fair to everyone and I tried to handle this carefully from the beginning by taking it private, others chose to make this public even after I said to END THE THREAD. That is very disrespectful... Every time a moderator told me to end a thread, I listened. It is his group, he is the Sheriff, someone has to be in control of a group. You should also know in the last group we all were on, they did the very same thing, back then they had good reason and I was a part of this also, but now they are defending their friend and without even knowing why I did what I did... AND I think it is VERY interesting this very same thing that happened on the last group was from something Lena said on group to the Moderator!! I think it is very interesting those feeling I did the right thing wrote to me privately and told me, those who did the wrong thing, took it public to the group even after I said THIS THREAD MUST END. When a Moderator ends a thread, that is it, the discussion is over. And please do NOT tell me to take a breath and work outside, if someone choses to discuss how I manage this group online and NOT privately with me, I will moderate them... Take care, Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry but I stand behind Lena on this one .I consistently > > recommend several groups to people who are looking for other > > alternatives.The only group i know of that Lena consistently recommends > > is one involving the salt/C protocol which works for many people.It also > > talks about additional supplements or herbs and they talk about rife > > there as well and are directed to this group by myself and others.Marc > > has no issue with this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The personal issues that you have with that group leader and his > > with you is over his nay saying about MMS( of which he has known of > > people who have had problems from it) which you are devoted to as an > > extreme fan of it.Is that why you object to it? and why target only > > Lena, just about all of us old timers toss out names of other groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes newcomers have problems with overloads of information at > > times.If I dont make files about new things I find from groups that > > might be helpful , my brain will still get muddled , even after 9 years > > of treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > .Information and knowledge bring power It brings power to our > > ability to heal by knowing about what is out there. > > > > > > Each week I get kudos in private emails thanking me for all the > > information that I put out there and the links to the groups that back > > up that information > > > > > > > > > > > > To each of you who are new, I know it is hard and > > confusing.Simply make a text file of all the additional things you read > > and save them for later. The information will prove needed and valuable > > at some later date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lena is one person who has healed a lot and shares what has > > helped healed her , without marketing- unlike some people who try to > > market products that they sell.nor does she put out fanatical > > information about any product ( this is a miracle cure , there is > > nothing better it does all the maker of it claims etc), she puts out > > information of value that has worked for her.I thought that this is what > > this list was about,the sharing of information > > > > > > Granted , shorter emails with spaced typing between short > > paragraphs are easier to read and understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If people feel confused reading a topic,this is the purpose of > > the digest form of emails, is so that you can scroll through information > > you dont want to read . > > > > > > So that is what I advise if a subject gets you too bogged down, > > make sure people are on digest and scroll past the things that you dont > > wish to read > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you are having an emotional overload herx if you object > > to informative posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shakes head sadly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Message to the group > > > > > > Posted by: " Lyme_and_Rife-owner " > > Lyme_and_Rife-owner > > > > > > Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:53 pm ((PDT)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > > > > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with > > the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-diff\ > > erently/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 hey darla,skip a few days to reset and come back. this is a great group and worth hanging in there. i've been here over a yr and all have been great, and will continue to be so. stay with us, ok. barbara Hi Darla, I've been a member for about a year or so, and this is the first time anything like this has happened. I think it's over now and hopefully it will never happen again. But it has been very upsetting, I agree. Khaya > > > > Sorry but I stand behind Lena on this one .I consistently recommend several groups to people who are looking for other alternatives.The only group i know of that Lena consistently recommends is one involving the salt/C protocol which works for many people.It also talks about additional supplements or herbs and they talk about rife there as well and are directed to this group by myself and others.Marc has no issue with this > > > > > > The personal issues that you have with that group leader and his with you is over his nay saying about MMS( of which he has known of people who have had problems from it) which you are devoted to as an extreme fan of it.Is that why you object to it? and why target only Lena, just about all of us old timers toss out names of other groups. > > > > Yes newcomers have problems with overloads of information at times.If I dont make files about new things I find from groups that might be helpful , my brain will still get muddled , even after 9 years of treatment > > > > .Information and knowledge bring power It brings power to our ability to heal by knowing about what is out there. > > Each week I get kudos in private emails thanking me for all the information that I put out there and the links to the groups that back up that information > > > > To each of you who are new, I know it is hard and confusing.Simply make a text file of all the additional things you read and save them for later. The information will prove needed and valuable at some later date > > > > > > Lena is one person who has healed a lot and shares what has helped healed her , without marketing- unlike some people who try to market products that they sell.nor does she put out fanatical information about any product ( this is a miracle cure , there is nothing better it does all the maker of it claims etc), she puts out information of value that has worked for her.I thought that this is what this list was about,the sharing of information > > Granted , shorter emails with spaced typing between short paragraphs are easier to read and understand > > > > > > If people feel confused reading a topic,this is the purpose of the digest form of emails, is so that you can scroll through information you dont want to read . > > So that is what I advise if a subject gets you too bogged down, make sure people are on digest and scroll past the things that you dont wish to read > > > > Perhaps you are having an emotional overload herx if you object to informative posts > > > > > > shakes head sadly > > > > > > 8. Message to the group > >   Posted by: " Lyme_and_Rife-owner " Lyme_and_Rife-owner > >   Date: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:53 pm ((PDT)) > > > >  > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > > > > > > > > http://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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