A question or 2 regarding MMS......

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Hey Jim,

I've been a lurker on the Lyme_and_Rife egroup for a few years now - but have

yet to officially introduce myself or ask any questions.

In short - I contracted Lyme (as well as strains of babesia & bartonella) when

travelling around Northern China (Hebei Province) around this time of the year

back in 2006 and got bit by a tick there. After I returned to Canada, I spent

the subsequent few years trying to convince the doctor(s) that this is what I in

fact had.

By this time - it had turned into classic chronic ( & neurological) lyme - where

I was suffering from general & acute anxiety, panic attacks, pseudo-seizures, as

well a long list of other typical lymie symptoms.

The Fall of 2009 I purchased a Doug Coil, and over the next 18-20 months managed

to kill off the baronella, the majority (if not all) of the babesia, as well as

the majority of the lyme. I was probably at this point 80% back to normal -

many symptoms vanished all together.

Around last Summer/Fall I was no longer getting any benefit from the rifing

anymore, no matter how much time I was spending doing it (and which

frequencies/strengths I was trying). So I thought I'd try alternative

treatments.

I switched over to the Byron White Formulas: A-L, A-BAB, and A-BART for about 6

months and although while taking them I didn't seem to receive massive herxes -

I saw again a slowly but sure steady improvement on the symptoms. Those

formulas took me from about 80% up to about 90-95% recovered.

Actually, the majority of the days now I feel close to what many would consider

as normal. It is mainly for the 2-3 days around the full moon that I have any

issues now. And even the flare ups on those days have significantly diminished

in intensity. Typically only mild headaches, and slight increase in the general

anxiety, the panic attacks on those days are almost under control on those days

as well - with the help of meditation & breathing techniques.

The only other symptoms remaining now other than the above which I experience

regularly are: eye floaters, and tinnitus/ringing in the ears.

So as of maybe 2 months ago - since I was no longer seeing benefits from the

Byron White Formulas I began to search again for alternative treatments for the

Lyme. Which is when I started taking an interest in the MMS & Essiac Tea.

About 3 weeks ago I placed an order for the MMS, and about a week later the

Essiac Herbs from the links you provided.

The MMS arrived quickly (within a week) - so I started on the 1000 Protocol

about 2 weeks ago. I already had the same 32oz rubbermaid container you

referenced - so Day 1 mixed 8 drops of the MMS, with the 8 drops of Citric Acid

Solution and consumed it over the 8 hours.

(if I was going to herx - traditionally for the lyme I'd know within an hour of

the treatment, within minutes for Babesia and Bartonella)

But Day 1 no herx.

So Day 2 I went up 16 drops of each - 2 drops per hour. No herx.

So Day 3 I increased it to 24 drops total - 3 drops per hour. Still no herx -

but this was the maximum # of drops for the 1000 Protocol so I stayed here for

Days 4 and 5. Still nothing.

Days 6,7, 8 and 9 - I went up to 32 drops total (or 4 drops per hour). So now

am transitioning into the 2000 Protocol.

Yesterday and today were up to the 40 drops in total (or 5 drops per hour for 8

hours). Yesterday was the first day since I started taking the MMS that I would

say I was herxing. It started about an hour after taking the first dose (5

drops), just a mild headache that persisted the remainder of the day, as well as

a general blah feeling - like the body is trying to get rid of alot of dead

bacteria.

Today I stayed at the same # of drops. No headache so far, and the blah feeling

is greatly diminished.....

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So now the questions:

1) A couple days ago in a post of yours I noticed the you commented on after

reaching 24 drops per day (3 drops per hour) to add it 1/8 tsp. of Baking Soda.

At what point during the preparation process do you add that in?

Towards the beginning when you've first mixed the MMS with the Citric Acid, or

is it more separately just before consuming (with the 3 drops of each in 4 oz.

of water)? Or does it matter?

2) If you were in my shoes, where would 'you' go from here - in trying to kill

that last 5% off? Continue on with the 2000 Protocol? Add in the DMSO?

Your advice is greatly appreciated,

P.S. - the Essiac Herbs still have yet to arrive (but should be here any day),

I've been using the l-glutamine for many, many years. Originally as a sports

supplement (before contracting Lyme) to mainly repair the muscles, and keep the

immune system boosted. But now it also serves (as you've mentioned many times)

the purpose of removing excess ammonia from the system - which I've REALLY

needed over the years.

[Guest guest]

hi ryan,congratulations on overcoming so much, and  in such a short time. there will probably be lots of people asking you what you did and how did you do it.  guess i'm one of them.

i was impressed by the fact that you killed off the bart.  so, what did you do and how did you do it?i've been coiling for bart (832) and babs (570) for about 3 yrs now.  get to the point of no herx after coiling for the full minutes required, continue there for months, then stop to see if i got it all. it always is still there.  i have recently begun using 1518 for bart.  have seen a slight herx.  have continued doing a limited 832 along with 1518.

so, again, what did you do and how did you do it to get rid of the bart and babs?  thanksbarbara

 

Hey Jim,

I've been a lurker on the Lyme_and_Rife egroup for a few years now - but have yet to officially introduce myself or ask any questions.

In short - I contracted Lyme (as well as strains of babesia & bartonella) when travelling around Northern China (Hebei Province) around this time of the year back in 2006 and got bit by a tick there. After I returned to Canada, I spent the subsequent few years trying to convince the doctor(s) that this is what I in fact had.

By this time - it had turned into classic chronic ( & neurological) lyme - where I was suffering from general & acute anxiety, panic attacks, pseudo-seizures, as well a long list of other typical lymie symptoms.

The Fall of 2009 I purchased a Doug Coil, and over the next 18-20 months managed to kill off the baronella, the majority (if not all) of the babesia, as well as the majority of the lyme. I was probably at this point 80% back to normal - many symptoms vanished all together.

Around last Summer/Fall I was no longer getting any benefit from the rifing anymore, no matter how much time I was spending doing it (and which frequencies/strengths I was trying). So I thought I'd try alternative treatments.

I switched over to the Byron White Formulas: A-L, A-BAB, and A-BART for about 6 months and although while taking them I didn't seem to receive massive herxes - I saw again a slowly but sure steady improvement on the symptoms. Those formulas took me from about 80% up to about 90-95% recovered.

Actually, the majority of the days now I feel close to what many would consider as normal. It is mainly for the 2-3 days around the full moon that I have any issues now. And even the flare ups on those days have significantly diminished in intensity. Typically only mild headaches, and slight increase in the general anxiety, the panic attacks on those days are almost under control on those days as well - with the help of meditation & breathing techniques.

The only other symptoms remaining now other than the above which I experience regularly are: eye floaters, and tinnitus/ringing in the ears.

So as of maybe 2 months ago - since I was no longer seeing benefits from the Byron White Formulas I began to search again for alternative treatments for the Lyme. Which is when I started taking an interest in the MMS & Essiac Tea. About 3 weeks ago I placed an order for the MMS, and about a week later the Essiac Herbs from the links you provided.

The MMS arrived quickly (within a week) - so I started on the 1000 Protocol about 2 weeks ago. I already had the same 32oz rubbermaid container you referenced - so Day 1 mixed 8 drops of the MMS, with the 8 drops of Citric Acid Solution and consumed it over the 8 hours.

(if I was going to herx - traditionally for the lyme I'd know within an hour of the treatment, within minutes for Babesia and Bartonella)

But Day 1 no herx.

So Day 2 I went up 16 drops of each - 2 drops per hour. No herx.

So Day 3 I increased it to 24 drops total - 3 drops per hour. Still no herx - but this was the maximum # of drops for the 1000 Protocol so I stayed here for Days 4 and 5. Still nothing.

Days 6,7, 8 and 9 - I went up to 32 drops total (or 4 drops per hour). So now am transitioning into the 2000 Protocol.

Yesterday and today were up to the 40 drops in total (or 5 drops per hour for 8 hours). Yesterday was the first day since I started taking the MMS that I would say I was herxing. It started about an hour after taking the first dose (5 drops), just a mild headache that persisted the remainder of the day, as well as a general blah feeling - like the body is trying to get rid of alot of dead bacteria.

Today I stayed at the same # of drops. No headache so far, and the blah feeling is greatly diminished.....

______________________________________________________

So now the questions:

1) A couple days ago in a post of yours I noticed the you commented on after reaching 24 drops per day (3 drops per hour) to add it 1/8 tsp. of Baking Soda.

At what point during the preparation process do you add that in?

Towards the beginning when you've first mixed the MMS with the Citric Acid, or is it more separately just before consuming (with the 3 drops of each in 4 oz. of water)? Or does it matter?

2) If you were in my shoes, where would 'you' go from here - in trying to kill that last 5% off? Continue on with the 2000 Protocol? Add in the DMSO?

Your advice is greatly appreciated,

P.S. - the Essiac Herbs still have yet to arrive (but should be here any day), I've been using the l-glutamine for many, many years. Originally as a sports supplement (before contracting Lyme) to mainly repair the muscles, and keep the immune system boosted. But now it also serves (as you've mentioned many times) the purpose of removing excess ammonia from the system - which I've REALLY needed over the years.