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caroleford2000uk@... writes:

> have lost 3 stone

> and am not on any medication just cotrolling by diet

Hi Carole,

Welcome to the group. Congratulations on the weight loss.

Eunice

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Welcome Carole. You are close enough, it is great you are controlling it

with diet. If you have any questions be sure to ask. We have wonderful

members here who are sure to have answers for you.

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: Hi not sure if i should be here as i have only been diagnosed with an

: impaired glucose tolerence this was in january and have lost 3 stone

: and am not on any medication just cotrolling by diet.

: carole

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Welcome Carole,

My husband is from Berkshire..3 stone is awesome!!! I have lost 2 stone

and 2 lb and am trying to get a bit more off...

What is the difference between diabetes and glucose tolerance?

sussie

-----Original Message-----

From: caroleford2000uk

Hi not sure if i should be here as i have only been diagnosed with an

impaired glucose tolerence this was in january and have lost 3 stone

and am not on any medication just cotrolling by diet.

carole

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Welcome to the best PSC group ever!

You are very lucky to be here and we are very lucky that you found this site.

There isn't a question that you will have that this group cannon answer --

believe me!

Although I have been on this site for 6 years I still have questions that pop

up.

Take care of yourself and put your illness in God's hands with the help of the

PSC members -- it is a win-win situation!

Biddy

New Member

> I'm 43 yoa and recently diagnosed with PCS. I have had 3 ERCPs since

> June and two biopsys. From what the Drs are saying I am in phase 2. I

> am also diagnosed with Ulcertic Coltis. Both of which had scared the

> hell out of me....

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Craig (?) - here's a few sites to get you started:

http://www..com/

http://www.ccfa.org/

http://www.pscf.org/

http://www..demon.co.uk/index.html

Don't give up - I've had ulcerative colitis for 25 years now. There's one

member here that has had PSC for about 26 years, I think. There is a wide

range however. Ask any questions you want - someone will have an answer.

Arne

51 - UC 1977 - PSC 2000

Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota

-----Original Message-----

From: k9craig032

I'm 43 yoa and recently diagnosed with PCS. I have had 3 ERCPs since

June and two biopsys. From what the Drs are saying I am in phase 2. I

am also diagnosed with Ulcertic Coltis. Both of which had scared the

hell out of me....

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You have come to the right group. Welcome. We are also sorry to hear from you because of the reasons. Tim L

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Dear Ruth,

You said:

>

> Thanks , I hope the group helps me. I need it. I'm sure it

will>>>

** Please see my response to you with questions (post #20643)

There's not much we csn do to help you until we have more information

from you.

Regards,

(list owner)

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Hi Sandi,

Welcome to the group...I'm glad you found us!

First, I wanted to say that you might consider a private consult

with . You've been taking these meds for a long time and

you mentioned several multiple health concerns - the type 2

diabetes, the high blood pressure and the fibromyalgia. Because of

these concerns, it might be appropriate for you to have an

individualized protocol. There is information in the files on

scheduling a consult.

It's good that you have learned about healthy dietary habits and

modified your eating. You might also take a look at the dietary

changes recommended in the files here to see if there are any other

improvements you can make. A lot of people with insulin issues,

high bp and fibro symptoms here have seen very positive improvements

following the dietary recommendations here.

I wish the best Sandi. It seems like you have struggled very hard to

get off these meds... can help guide you through this

process.

Hugs,

>

> Hi Everyone!

> I am also new to the group! I have taken antidepressants since

> 1978 due to severe depression coming from severe dysfunction in my

> life which was affecting my immediate health(blood pressure)and

> doctor put me on them to help me sleep and increase my mood while

> trying to change my life for the better. Little did i know what i

> was in for in the long run! I also believed that doctors knew

best,

> and thought i was doing the right thing. Anyway, i was put on

> prozac in 1990 and i was immediately affected by it.....i thought

i

> had found the perfect answer to my problems!!! As i look back

now,

> i realize that it put me in a state of numbness so i could deal

with

> life and still function. I was a single parent, and i became a

super

> mom. That ended about 2 years later, when i developed type 2

> diabetes and worsened high blood pressure. Then came the drugs for

> diabetes, with then a hugh weight gain, and then

fibromyalgia......i

> was totally drained....could not function anymore and had to go on

> disability and am still on it.....in the back of my mind, i felt

it

> was due to medications, but, the doctors said no and i needed

these

> drugs to keep me from getting worse. I should have listened to my

> instincts.....i had to start taking more drugs...trazadone for

sleep

> and then ambien also in case trazadone didnt work....my fibro got

> worse....i was slowly dying and i knew it but didnt know how to

> change it.....then i started reading about side effects of drugs

and

> i started researching things and still am. This led to realizing i

> needed to get these drugs out of my system slowly but surely.....i

> have quit all of these over a period of time....all except the

> prozac, which i keep going back to when i get depressed...knowing

> what i know now, i want to get off it!!!! And i want to know the

> best way to do it and if there is something else i can use that is

> natural until my body becomes healthy again and i dont need

anything

> for depression at all. I now believe these drugs are the cause of

my

> getting diabetes and gaining weight....is there a safe way to cut

> down on the prozac? I am on 40 mg right now.....and this after

> coming off Effexor and many other trials of anti depressants. I

have

> learned about organic foods and supplements to restore health, and

> have used them for a couple years..(Omega 3 oils etc.) Any info

from

> anyone will be greatly appreciated!!!! God bless u all! Thank God

> for this site!!

> Sandi

>

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Dear Sandi,

You said:

<<I am also new to the group! I have taken antidepressants since

1978 due to severe depression coming from severe dysfunction in my

life which was affecting my immediate health(blood pressure)and

doctor put me on them to help me sleep and increase my mood while

trying to change my life for the better. Little did i know what i

was in for in the long run! I also believed that doctors knew best,

and thought i was doing the right thing. Anyway, i was put on prozac

in 1990 and i was immediately affected by it.....i thought i had

found the perfect answer to my problems!!! As i look back now, i

realize that it put me in a state of numbness so i could deal with

life and still function. I was a single parent, and i became a super

mom. >>

** Most people don't see this until they're off the drugs.

You said:

<<That ended about 2 years later, when i developed type 2 diabetes

and worsened high blood pressure. Then came the drugs for diabetes,

with then a hugh weight gain, and then fibromyalgia......i was

totally drained....could not function anymore and had to go on

disability and am still on it.....in the back of my mind, i felt it

was due to medications, but, the doctors said no and i needed these

drugs to keep me from getting worse. I should have listened to my

instincts.....i had to start taking more drugs...trazadone for sleep

and then ambien also in case trazadone didnt work....my fibro got

worse....i was slowly dying and i knew it but didnt know how to

change it.....then i started reading about side effects of drugs and

i started researching things and still am. This led to realizing i

needed to get these drugs out of my system slowly but surely.....i

have quit all of these over a period of time....all except the

prozac, which i keep going back to when i get depressed...knowing

what i know now, i want to get off it!!!!>>

** You're surrounded here by like-minded people who have also

been duped by conventional medicine.

You said;

<<And i want to know the best way to do it and if there is something

else i can use that is natural until my body becomes healthy again

and i dont need anything for depression at all. I now believe these

drugs are the cause of my getting diabetes and gaining weight....is

there a safe way to cut down on the prozac? I am on 40 mg right

now.....and this after coming off Effexor and many other trials of

anti depressants. I have learned about organic foods and supplements

to restore health, and have used them for a couple years..(Omega 3

oils etc.) Any info from anyone will be greatly appreciated!!!! God

bless u all! Thank God for this site!! >>

** I'll need more specific info. What drugs are you currently

taking (doses, too)? What drugs have you discontinued in the past

year, what doses were they originally, over what period of time did

you decrease them, and how long have you been off them?

What supplements are you now taking? Doses?

Please post a 5 day food and drink diary.

Welcome to the group. :-)

Regards,

(list owner)

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Dear ,

You said:

<<I've been taking Sarafem for PMS (for those wondering, Sarafem is

essentially Prozac-for-PMS) and it's been helpful, however I would love to

chuck it at some point. I have tried tapering off of it in the past per my

doctor's instruction, which has always been to take it once every other day

for the first week, and then once every 3 days the week after, quitting it

altogether after that. I get those " brain shivers " as a withdrawal symptom,

and ultimately end up going back on it because the dark emotions start

creeping in again. Is there a more gradual way to taper off this stuff so

that the withdrawal symptoms are less pronounced? I've got some ideas as to

how I'd like to do this more gradually, but thought I would check with

people here to see if they have any alternative tapering techniques that

have been successful.>>

** 5-10% at a time waiting in between each decrease to feel totally

stable again.

Regards,

" Human beings, who are almost unique in having

the ability to learn from the experience of others,

are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination

to do so. "

--

[Guest guest]

, thank you so much for the tips -- the 5-10% decrease seems to be within the same range I had planned out prior to checking in here ... the first month I planned on skipping one dose (20mg) per week for about a month, and then proceed to skipping two doses a week -- not on consecutive days -- the following month, etc. I like the idea of waiting till feeling stable before taking it to the next drop, too. I always get those nasty brain-zaps when I go off this stuff, so hopefully this will make those less pronounced at least! I'm going to check out the files section as well for further info. Thanks again! ________________________________________________Date: Wed May 31, 2006 8:37 pm (PDT) From: "C Creel" catherine.creel@... Subject: Re:

New Member Dear ,You said:<essentially Prozac-for-PMS) and it's been helpful, however I would love to chuck it at some point. I have tried tapering off of it in the past per my doctor's instruction, which has always been to take it once every other day for the first week, and then once every 3 days the week after, quitting it altogether after that. I get those "brain shivers" as a withdrawal symptom, and ultimately end up going back on it because the dark emotions start creeping in again. Is there a more gradual way to taper off this stuff so that the withdrawal symptoms are less pronounced? I've got some ideas as to how I'd like to do this more gradually, but thought I would check with people here to see if they have any alternative tapering techniques that have been successful.>>** 5-10% at a time

waiting in between each decrease to feel totally stable again.Regards,"Human beings, who are almost unique in havingthe ability to learn from the experience of others,are also remarkable for their apparent disinclinationto do so."-- ________________________________________________________________________Message: 9 Date: Wed May 31, 2006 8:41 pm (PDT) From: "C Creel" catherine.creel@... Subject: Re: New Member , also, plwase be aware that Sarafem has a very long half-life. You shoould wait about a month after your first decrease in order to fully see how this decrease is going to affect you.Regards,

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Dear ,

Kim was kind enough to point out to me that you said the following:

<<, thank you so much for the tips -- the 5-10% decrease seems

to be within the same range I had planned out prior to checking in here ...

the first month I planned on skipping one dose (20mg) per week for about a

month, and then proceed to skipping two doses a week -- not on consecutive

days -- the following month, etc. I like the idea of waiting till feeling

stable before taking it to the next drop, too. I always get those nasty

brain-zaps when I go off this stuff, so hopefully this will make those less

pronounced at least! I'm going to check out the files section as well

for further info. >>

** There's a misunderstanding here -- you don't skip doses. You do dose

reductions of 5-10%. The first reductioon is a 5-10% reduction of your

normal daily dose. This now becomes your normal daily dose. You stay at

this dose until you feel as well as you felt prior to the reduction. Then

you do another 5-10% reduction basing it on your current dose. Doing it by

the month as you propose is going to have you taking normal doses, nothing,

and then a normal dose again. The will be really confusing for your

biochemistry and is guaranteed to have you, at some point, in a very

difficult, constant withdrawal. The goal is to not yank your brain

chemistry all over the placce but this is exactly what you will be doing if

you skip doses.

Regards,

" Human beings, who are almost unique in having

the ability to learn from the experience of others,

are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination

to do so. "

--

[Guest guest]

Hello Kitty and welcome.. you've come to a good place

I'm Rose just came off xanax and about to start on the Lexapro..

I'm 60 and live in Missouri

Peace,

Rose

Hello everyone,new here,coming off Paxil,and hope to get rid of Xanax next.Im a 70 year old lady,i live in the South part of USA with my parrots.HUGS...Kitty

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>

> I sent a fairly large message earlier and still do not see it. Is

> there some reason why?

>

> Thanks, Sandy>>

I deleted it because you sent the same message yesterday.

C

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

You sent it privately instead of to the list. I just sent it to the list.

Regards,

Kim

moderator

I sent a fairly large message earlier and still do not see it. Is there some reason why?Thanks, Sandy -- KIM DENISE FINE ART

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[Guest guest]

Sandy, this is a copy of the response I sent you this morning.

File - Greetings for Group.htm

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> Greetings!

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>

> Welcome, new members! We're glad you found us. We have a

> a good amount of experience here, most of which will reassure

> you that what you're experiencing is far from unusual, and you

> will succeed in getting off the drug(s) you are on.

>

>

> Please take a moment to introduce yourself, and let us know

> your needs.

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: clauds52

<<Hello Everyone----First thank you for the emails I've received upon

accceptance to this group. I was on Effexor XR for almost three

years. I was on a very low dose---27.5 mg per day---I am a slow

metabolizor and that is the " therapeutic window " that my doctor and I

arrived on. Nevertheless, I have had a nasty time withdrawing from

it. I took my last dose on June 8, 2006. I have had dizziness, low

blood sugar seems to be the ugly thing right now, sweating and a nasty,

cranky mood that comes and goes!!!! The email on diet was so great and

also reassuring as I thought I was crazy...but after I eat I get that

yucky feeling--kinda nausea but kinda dizzy--the feeling you get when

you skip a meal and exercise etc:) So--being a newbie I am excited

to hear what you all have to say. I'll go through the posts and search

them for information but if anyone can give me a little reassurance I

would really appreciate that as well! I of course wonder just how long

this will go on and if symptoms come and go--like this blood sugar

thing---its the pits!>>

** Dia, it sounds like you came off the drug too quickly. Please explain

the period of time you took to do this and the size decreases you did.

Welcome to the group!

Regards,

(list owner)

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I probably tapered over a period of 3-4 weeks...about a 1/2 dose

down at a time. If I did it too quickly does it mean I have to go

back and start over? I really don't want to do that. My Dr. gave

me a prescription for liquid Prozac to take if the symptoms were too

nasty------just a small dose--should I do that? Or just ride it out-

--for how long??????? Dia

-- In Withdrawal_and_Recovery , " C Creel "

wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: clauds52

>

>

> <<Hello Everyone----First thank you for the emails I've received

upon

> accceptance to this group. I was on Effexor XR for almost three

> years. I was on a very low dose---27.5 mg per day---I am a slow

> metabolizor and that is the " therapeutic window " that my doctor

and I

> arrived on. Nevertheless, I have had a nasty time withdrawing from

> it. I took my last dose on June 8, 2006. I have had dizziness, low

> blood sugar seems to be the ugly thing right now, sweating and a

nasty,

> cranky mood that comes and goes!!!! The email on diet was so great

and

> also reassuring as I thought I was crazy...but after I eat I get

that

> yucky feeling--kinda nausea but kinda dizzy--the feeling you get

when

> you skip a meal and exercise etc:) So--being a newbie I am

excited

> to hear what you all have to say. I'll go through the posts and

search

> them for information but if anyone can give me a little

reassurance I

> would really appreciate that as well! I of course wonder just how

long

> this will go on and if symptoms come and go--like this blood sugar

> thing---its the pits!>>

>

>

> ** Dia, it sounds like you came off the drug too quickly.

Please explain

> the period of time you took to do this and the size decreases you

did.

>

>

> Welcome to the group!

>

>

> Regards,

>

> (list owner)

>

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--- katsmeowie wrote:

> My biggest problem is accepting my physical limitations. I used to be

> very active, but now I have to be aware of everything I do or I will

> pay for it later in pain.

Hi and welcome,

I'm Chuck and giving up work for me was the hardest thing I've

ever done after 30+ yrs it was overwhelming at first, after 16 months

I'm getting better at it. Moderation is tough but, is had its rewards.

Chuck

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Dear Cyrilla,

Welcome to our CP group. We are all family here and I hope that you will feel

welcome. I'm very sorry that you are facing all of this, but one thing is for

sure, and that is you have come to the right place. Everyone here knows exactly

what you are going through. We know the pain and the loneliness that comes

along with it.

Hang in there and let's help each other. I'm sure you will get a lot of good

information about fibro. here. There are many of our family members that are in

that same boat.

Once again welcome and let us all know if we can do anything to help you.

Love,

Carol (OK)

Cyrilla wrote:

I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia about 6 years ago. I have a wonderful doctor

who has me pretty much under control with good meds, but I have no energy.

[Guest guest]

Cyrilla, what are three bar ditches?

Like you we also have four Newfoundland size dogs and forty acres to watch over.

The woods kind of takes care of its self.

When I use to cross country ski a lot or do anything at all I noticed

as the weeks went by I got slower and weaker until I could ski no

more. Got to where I could not pull the chainsaw cord. In fact I was

so weak and tired I could hardly fill the wood stove. Got up around

noon and took a nap shortly after. This went on for so long that I

thought my normal life was over.

I got a big calendar and marked down a number from 0ne to ten each day on how I

felt. Number One meaning feeling weak and bad to number ten feeling good with

energy. I started eating lots of fruits and vegetables trying everything I could

think of and eating little or no sugar( NO ASPERTAIN) and watched the calendar

for over a year and when I started to see the numbers SLOWLY coming up I

realized that a short time earlier I had started drinking LARGE amounts of water

each day. I think my body had been in some type of dehydration.

The numbers went up very slowly and now I am back cutting and splitting

firewood or what ever else. It was so bad before

the calendar days I had a hard time walking because my legs were so

stiff. I hope you are better soon, I will say a prayer for your recovery.

Larry

--- " geminigaldc " wrote:

>

> How did you beat it?

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome. I'm sorry that we had to meet under these circumstances

but I think you will fine that you have come to the right place. The people

here are fantastic and they can help in so many ways.

There are the ones like our owner and moderators who always have the

information you need to read and then there are those like me who really doesn't

know anything at all but will gladly give you a shoulder to cry on and someone

to talk to. Of course the owner and moderators can do that too. lol I sound

like I'm categorizing everyone. lol I'm really not.

I know that you will love it here and I hope we can be friends.

Love,

Carol (OK)

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