Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Hi Carol, It's unfortunate, but there is no book with instructions on how to treat with a coil machine. You must have been supplied with operating instructions from the builder of your machine, but that has nothing to do with coiling protocol. If you have Lyme and 5 coinfections, you have your work cut out for you. I have been using the coil machine for over 3 years, and have made excellent progress. But treatment is, by necessity, a very slow process. Due to the nature of the organisms, one must advance with extreme caution, as when they are killed, they become toxic debris in the body, and cause the herx reaction. There have been numerous posts lately, reflecting the experience of coiling too long in the beginning of treatment, and thereby creating way too much toxic debris in the body, on top of existing illness. This can be avoided, and must be. That course of treatment is not sustainable for any period of time, and anyone who tries it will absolutely crash. Treatment of Lyme and co's CANNOT BE RUSHED. It takes years. What I would suggest, is that you go to the group files and download the coiling protocol document by Doug MacLean, the inventor of the coil machine. That is the best guide to coiling that exists, as far as I know. To get to the group files, go to the group home page, and click on the option " Files " listed on the left hand blue column. You will then get a webpage with a list of all the files that have been uploaded by group members. Scroll down the page until you see the PDF document entitled, " Doug's_Coil_Protocol " , and click on it. You will get a dialog box asking if you want to view the file or download it, your choice. I also suggest that you download the document I uploaded, entitled, " Natural Detox Products and Protocols " (there is also another detox file uploaded by another member, but that's a totally different document). The detox document I uploaded to the group files, is a list of natural detox agents that people have used successfully, which I have compiled over a series of years. You will need to detox, so that list might come in handy. You can google an item to get info on it, or post a question to the group about any of the detox protocols. A word about Doug MacLean's document - when Doug first coiled for Lyme (over 20 years ago), the coinfections were unknown. So, Doug did not single out frequencies to address specific infections, etc. He has a bunch of frequencies listed in that document that are not matched to a specific infection. S. has since worked out which frequencies address which infection better than ANY other source out there, and they are tried and true. There are only one or two needed for each infection - that's it: Lyme: 432 Hz. Bartonella: 832 Hz. and 1518 Hz. Babesia: 570 Hz. and 1583 Hz. Ehrlichia: 395 Hz. Anaplasma: 387 Hz. Mycoplasma fermentans: 690 Hz. Mycoplasma pneumoniae: 790 Hz. XMRV (HGRV): 448 Hz. Epstein Barr Virus: 880 Hz. and 800 Hz. Toxoplasma: 979 Hz. ALSO NOTE: Doug mentions that one should begin coiling on the abdomen (over the liver), which is correct. Build up to 5 minutes on that area. Then he suggests coiling body parts with symptoms. I would say one must COIL THE ENTIRE SURFACE OF THE BODY. That's from my personal experience. I found I herxed in areas that experienced no symptoms whatsoever, before I coiled them. So, infection was lurking there, unnoticed. But don't add in the rest of the body right away - add in one area at a time, SLOWLY, and GAUGE THE HERX. It took me a full 9 months before I could coil my entire body for Lyme. Then, I built up treatment time on each part, until I was able to coil for 3 minutes per body part, with 5 mintues (still) over the liver. That took YEARS. GO VERY SLOWLY. BEGIN WITH 15 SECONDS FOR LYME OVER THE ABDOMEN, and see what happpens. Detox. You may need to coil for Bart at a certain point, when the Lyme load is reduced. This is a very tricky point, and tuning in to one's personal infection profile is critical to success with the coil machine. Bart reproduces within 24 hours, so it should be treated every day, and at a certain point, twice a day. Lyme should be treated once a week, as tolerated. But treating one infection at a time is recommended (see 's instructions at the end of this message). What I would suggest for all coilers, is to do an advanced search for Stolar's posts to this group that are in the archives. They contain valuable advice on coiling. To do an advanced search by author, go to the messages page of the group, and click on " advanced " next to the search box at the top of the page. You will get other options for a search. Type in johnstolar in the search by author box, and you will get a list of of 's posts to this group, going back to June of 2009, when this group split off from the Lyme_Rife group. I suggest you read them carefully. There are many more of 's posts in the archives of the old Lyme_Rife group (now a separate group), and those contain valuable coiling info as well ( does not post any longer). Below are some coiling instructions posted by S. that I saved in my files: 's Rifing Recommendations (Doug Coil Machine builder and successful coiler for Lyme and co's) " How much time it takes to kill enough bacteria to produce a herx is totally controlled by the size of the bacteria load. Some people herx with a 15 sec. session and others take longer, especially if antibiotics were used to reduce the bacteria load. Bartonella should be done first unless you have big Lyme symptoms. If Lyme is the main disease and you don't feel Bart symptoms then Lyme is keeping Bart in check. This balance is destroyed when you kill Lyme with antibiotics or the coil machine, which allows Bart to grow very quickly. If you have only Lyme symptoms, then coil for Lyme only but if you have Lyme and Bartonella symptoms you should definitely coil for Bartonella first. Once you know what a Bart herx is like then its fine to coil for Lyme too - I did not do this because when I was herxing with one infection the last thing I wanted to do was to cause another different herx at the same time. Bartonella - every day (at first) with short times of 832 and then when you can handle more time, do two sessions per day. Bart grows so fast that if you even miss a treatment it will be winning the war. I finally got rid of it by coiling twice/day with 18 min of 832. I covered my body with the coil but always did 4 minutes on my abdomen. I coiled for Babesia with 570Hz every other day and had it gone in about 3 weeks - it was easy compared to Bart and Lyme. This will require using the machine for increasing times to determine if you do herx. This is actually far more accurate than any of the tests for these organisms. I don't know anyone with Ehrlichia so I suspect that it is held in check by several of the other organisms and will only make symptoms when the others are gone. Lyme - once/week with 432 after you do every other session to determine what it takes to get a herx started. Babesia - the herxing is light or absent with 570 so coil every other day, start with a few minutes to see if you herx but then build up the time quickly. Kids do very well with coiling. They have short or no herxes and get well fast - they are smaller and have smaller bacteria loads. Disease organisms hide from your immune system by making a protein coat that is designed to dock with your proteins so it looks like something that belongs in your body. The gut flora is not hiding and therefore does not have the protein layers and will not vibrate in a magnetic field. This is why Candida cannot be killed with mechanical shaking as disease organisms can be killed. I am sure that many supplements and probably most drugs will form cysts and L-forms. This is bad because L-forms release the same toxins as active spirochetes but they do not have a cell wall or protein layers. If you use substances they sense are toxic then you will create a large load of L-forms and be very sick with no way to kill them with a coil machine or any other machine. I would stop all supplements when all Lyme herxing stops. Let the cysts and L-forms become active spirochetes and kill them with 432. " - Jane > > > I bought a doug coil machine. I am afraid to start because I only have bits and > pieces of advice but not a step by step, sequenced procedure. Can anyone > recommend a good book for a newbie? > I have lyme plus 5 co-infections. > > Thanks, > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hola Lyme Heads. I am a newbee here and I am interested in where to find this group "home" page so i can get the Doug Coil protocol for coiling and detox please....J To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: Best book on rifing? - Coiling Protocol Instructions Hi Carol, It's unfortunate, but there is no book with instructions on how to treat with a coil machine. You must have been supplied with operating instructions from the builder of your machine, but that has nothing to do with coiling protocol. If you have Lyme and 5 coinfections, you have your work cut out for you. I have been using the coil machine for over 3 years, and have made excellent progress. But treatment is, by necessity, a very slow process. Due to the nature of the organisms, one must advance with extreme caution, as when they are killed, they become toxic debris in the body, and cause the herx reaction. There have been numerous posts lately, reflecting the experience of coiling too long in the beginning of treatment, and thereby creating way too much toxic debris in the body, on top of existing illness. This can be avoided, and must be. That course of treatment is not sustainable for any period of time, and anyone who tries it will absolutely crash. Treatment of Lyme and co's CANNOT BE RUSHED. It takes years. What I would suggest, is that you go to the group files and download the coiling protocol document by Doug MacLean, the inventor of the coil machine. That is the best guide to coiling that exists, as far as I know. To get to the group files, go to the group home page, and click on the option "Files" listed on the left hand blue column. You will then get a webpage with a list of all the files that have been uploaded by group members. Scroll down the page until you see the PDF document entitled, "Doug's_Coil_Protocol", and click on it. You will get a dialog box asking if you want to view the file or download it, your choice. I also suggest that you download the document I uploaded, entitled, "Natural Detox Products and Protocols" (there is also another detox file uploaded by another member, but that's a totally different document). The detox document I uploaded to the group files, is a list of natural detox agents that people have used successfully, which I have compiled over a series of years. You will need to detox, so that list might come in handy. You can google an item to get info on it, or post a question to the group about any of the detox protocols. A word about Doug MacLean's document - when Doug first coiled for Lyme (over 20 years ago), the coinfections were unknown. So, Doug did not single out frequencies to address specific infections, etc. He has a bunch of frequencies listed in that document that are not matched to a specific infection. S. has since worked out which frequencies address which infection better than ANY other source out there, and they are tried and true. There are only one or two needed for each infection - that's it: Lyme: 432 Hz. Bartonella: 832 Hz. and 1518 Hz. Babesia: 570 Hz. and 1583 Hz. Ehrlichia: 395 Hz. Anaplasma: 387 Hz. Mycoplasma fermentans: 690 Hz. Mycoplasma pneumoniae: 790 Hz. XMRV (HGRV): 448 Hz. Epstein Barr Virus: 880 Hz. and 800 Hz. Toxoplasma: 979 Hz. ALSO NOTE: Doug mentions that one should begin coiling on the abdomen (over the liver), which is correct. Build up to 5 minutes on that area. Then he suggests coiling body parts with symptoms. I would say one must COIL THE ENTIRE SURFACE OF THE BODY. That's from my personal experience. I found I herxed in areas that experienced no symptoms whatsoever, before I coiled them. So, infection was lurking there, unnoticed. But don't add in the rest of the body right away - add in one area at a time, SLOWLY, and GAUGE THE HERX. It took me a full 9 months before I could coil my entire body for Lyme. Then, I built up treatment time on each part, until I was able to coil for 3 minutes per body part, with 5 mintues (still) over the liver. That took YEARS. GO VERY SLOWLY. BEGIN WITH 15 SECONDS FOR LYME OVER THE ABDOMEN, and see what happpens. Detox. You may need to coil for Bart at a certain point, when the Lyme load is reduced. This is a very tricky point, and tuning in to one's personal infection profile is critical to success with the coil machine. Bart reproduces within 24 hours, so it should be treated every day, and at a certain point, twice a day. Lyme should be treated once a week, as tolerated. But treating one infection at a time is recommended (see 's instructions at the end of this message). What I would suggest for all coilers, is to do an advanced search for Stolar's posts to this group that are in the archives. They contain valuable advice on coiling. To do an advanced search by author, go to the messages page of the group, and click on "advanced" next to the search box at the top of the page. You will get other options for a search. Type in johnstolar in the search by author box, and you will get a list of of 's posts to this group, going back to June of 2009, when this group split off from the Lyme_Rife group. I suggest you read them carefully. There are many more of 's posts in the archives of the old Lyme_Rife group (now a separate group), and those contain valuable coiling info as well ( does not post any longer). Below are some coiling instructions posted by S. that I saved in my files: 's Rifing Recommendations (Doug Coil Machine builder and successful coiler for Lyme and co's) "How much time it takes to kill enough bacteria to produce a herx is totally controlled by the size of the bacteria load. Some people herx with a 15 sec. session and others take longer, especially if antibiotics were used to reduce the bacteria load. Bartonella should be done first unless you have big Lyme symptoms. If Lyme is the main disease and you don't feel Bart symptoms then Lyme is keeping Bart in check. This balance is destroyed when you kill Lyme with antibiotics or the coil machine, which allows Bart to grow very quickly. If you have only Lyme symptoms, then coil for Lyme only but if you have Lyme and Bartonella symptoms you should definitely coil for Bartonella first. Once you know what a Bart herx is like then its fine to coil for Lyme too - I did not do this because when I was herxing with one infection the last thing I wanted to do was to cause another different herx at the same time. Bartonella - every day (at first) with short times of 832 and then when you can handle more time, do two sessions per day. Bart grows so fast that if you even miss a treatment it will be winning the war. I finally got rid of it by coiling twice/day with 18 min of 832. I covered my body with the coil but always did 4 minutes on my abdomen. I coiled for Babesia with 570Hz every other day and had it gone in about 3 weeks - it was easy compared to Bart and Lyme. This will require using the machine for increasing times to determine if you do herx. This is actually far more accurate than any of the tests for these organisms. I don't know anyone with Ehrlichia so I suspect that it is held in check by several of the other organisms and will only make symptoms when the others are gone. Lyme - once/week with 432 after you do every other session to determine what it takes to get a herx started. Babesia - the herxing is light or absent with 570 so coil every other day, start with a few minutes to see if you herx but then build up the time quickly. Kids do very well with coiling. They have short or no herxes and get well fast - they are smaller and have smaller bacteria loads. Disease organisms hide from your immune system by making a protein coat that is designed to dock with your proteins so it looks like something that belongs in your body. The gut flora is not hiding and therefore does not have the protein layers and will not vibrate in a magnetic field. This is why Candida cannot be killed with mechanical shaking as disease organisms can be killed. I am sure that many supplements and probably most drugs will form cysts and L-forms. This is bad because L-forms release the same toxins as active spirochetes but they do not have a cell wall or protein layers. If you use substances they sense are toxic then you will create a large load of L-forms and be very sick with no way to kill them with a coil machine or any other machine. I would stop all supplements when all Lyme herxing stops. Let the cysts and L-forms become active spirochetes and kill them with 432." - Jane > > > I bought a doug coil machine. I am afraid to start because I only have bits and > pieces of advice but not a step by step, sequenced procedure. Can anyone > recommend a good book for a newbie? > I have lyme plus 5 co-infections. > > Thanks, > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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