one week update from consultation Chad

[Guest guest]

,

I've been taking

Caprotein1x a day.

I've been taking the magnesium 250mg and vit C 1000mg from 7-3pm,

alternating between hours.

lethicin 3 x a day 520MG, fish oils 3 x a day 2000mg

Ultra Toddy 1x in morning 1x in evening

Mineral Toddy 1x at noon, 1x late in evening.

I have noticed my mind is slightly settling down a bit, some nights I can

fall asleep faster and less interrupted as before. I still have the

depersonalization. Tight helmet feeling around my head.

nervousness, confusion at times, shaky feeling all over my body, body feels

weak after changed diet and taking supplements.

Still have constipation or hard bowel movements, I have problems w/

hemorrhoids every summer so that could be a factor. Still on Klonopin and

still smoking. Wondering if we should changed anything or add anything.

Thanks-Chad

>

>I have changed my diet a lot, meat, eggs, veggies, no bread, no grain,

>added

>nuts as well. I was wondering if we could add something or increase

>somthing? Since starting the Mineral and Ultra Toddy, I have notice I feel

>a

>little bloated as well. >>

>

<<(from my orginal post)

I've been feeling this strange depersonalization now since Oct of last year

when I woke up from and had anxiety attack. I've been taking Clonazapam for

about 12 years now. The doctor started me on doxipan in Nov and Depakote,

(I haven't been on antidepressant for about 13 years) The doxipan made me

nervous and manic and depakote was horrible I was too weak, after about

three weeks the doc took me off both. I began to notice I had a dialogue

going in my head along with hearing music, so I the doc put me on risperdal,

I was only able to handle that for three or for days at the most, it made

matters much worse, I started to have extreme fear, along with more anxiety

and the dialogues got louder and I started to hallucinate.

I started Zoloft about a month ago on 15mg, per doc's orders. And I became

more nervous and along came dysphoria mania so I decided a week ago I wanted

to stop the medicine and go on something natural.

The worst part of my symptoms are depersonalization, I'm hypersensitive to

smells, lights, sounds. My whole body feels tense, my mind feel like it is

being pushed from the inside out. I don't think the Clonazapam has really

done much to help, I'm on 1.5 mg a day. I would like to get off it as well

as find an alternative to antidepressants and moodstablizers and get rid of

the depersonalization.

I haven't drank since Oct of 05, I used to drink a lot of beer for many

years. I've cut down on my coffee and I really need to quit smoking. But

again the depersonalization is the worst part about this.

any ideas on what I should do? I am only on the Clonazapam and I've been

taking B complex with vitamin C for a few months now.>>

** What you initially experienced is from the damage done by years of

drinking. IMO, damage from chronic drinking needs to be recognized and

talked about more. This will not be fixed by psychotropic drugs.

** Considering what happened to you while drinking that caused all this

(it's called allostatic overload), it is important to get a good,

personalized protocol going. If it was just a simple, straightforward one

drug withdrawal with no complications, a consultation wouldn't be necessary.

The allostatic overload tells me you are drastically depleted in nutrients

and overloaded in toxins and free radicals, This will not go away on its

own.

[Guest guest]

** Chad, you're not going to get well in a week or two -- or a

month or two. What happened to you happened from allostatic

overload. This was years in the making. You're looking at a

recovery period in terms of a couple of years. This does not mean you

won't improve during this time, but don't expect the

depersonalization to be gone for quite some time.

Your body is detoxifying. We need to hold where we are with the

supplements and allow this to happen. Being on overload means we

need to approach this slowly do your body doesn't reject what is good

for it.

C

>

> ,

>

> I've been taking

> Caprotein1x a day.

> I've been taking the magnesium 250mg and vit C 1000mg from 7-3pm,

> alternating between hours.

> lethicin 3 x a day 520MG, fish oils 3 x a day 2000mg

> Ultra Toddy 1x in morning 1x in evening

> Mineral Toddy 1x at noon, 1x late in evening.

>

> I have noticed my mind is slightly settling down a bit, some

nights I can

> fall asleep faster and less interrupted as before. I still have

the

> depersonalization. Tight helmet feeling around my head.

> nervousness, confusion at times, shaky feeling all over my body,

body feels

> weak after changed diet and taking supplements.

>

> Still have constipation or hard bowel movements, I have problems w/

> hemorrhoids every summer so that could be a factor. Still on

Klonopin and

> still smoking. Wondering if we should changed anything or add

anything.

>

> Thanks-Chad

> >

> >I have changed my diet a lot, meat, eggs, veggies, no bread, no

grain,

> >added

> >nuts as well. I was wondering if we could add something or increase

> >somthing? Since starting the Mineral and Ultra Toddy, I have

notice I feel

> >a

> >little bloated as well. >>

> >

>

> <<(from my orginal post)

>

>

> I've been feeling this strange depersonalization now since Oct of

last year

> when I woke up from and had anxiety attack. I've been taking

Clonazapam for

> about 12 years now. The doctor started me on doxipan in Nov and

Depakote,

> (I haven't been on antidepressant for about 13 years) The doxipan

made me

> nervous and manic and depakote was horrible I was too weak, after

about

> three weeks the doc took me off both. I began to notice I had a

dialogue

> going in my head along with hearing music, so I the doc put me on

risperdal,

> I was only able to handle that for three or for days at the most,

it made

> matters much worse, I started to have extreme fear, along with more

anxiety

> and the dialogues got louder and I started to hallucinate.

> I started Zoloft about a month ago on 15mg, per doc's orders. And I

became

> more nervous and along came dysphoria mania so I decided a week ago

I wanted

> to stop the medicine and go on something natural.

>

> The worst part of my symptoms are depersonalization, I'm

hypersensitive to

> smells, lights, sounds. My whole body feels tense, my mind feel

like it is

> being pushed from the inside out. I don't think the Clonazapam has

really

> done much to help, I'm on 1.5 mg a day. I would like to get off it

as well

> as find an alternative to antidepressants and moodstablizers and

get rid of

> the depersonalization.

>

> I haven't drank since Oct of 05, I used to drink a lot of beer for

many

> years. I've cut down on my coffee and I really need to quit

smoking. But

> again the depersonalization is the worst part about this.

>

> any ideas on what I should do? I am only on the Clonazapam and

I've been

> taking B complex with vitamin C for a few months now.>>

>

>

> ** What you initially experienced is from the damage done by

years of

> drinking. IMO, damage from chronic drinking needs to be recognized

and

> talked about more. This will not be fixed by psychotropic drugs.

> ** Considering what happened to you while drinking that caused all

this

> (it's called allostatic overload), it is important to get a good,

> personalized protocol going. If it was just a simple,

straightforward one

> drug withdrawal with no complications, a consultation wouldn't be

necessary.

> The allostatic overload tells me you are drastically depleted in

nutrients

> and overloaded in toxins and free radicals, This will not go away

on its

> own.

>

[Guest guest]

> ** Chad, you're not going to get well in a week or two -- or a

>month or two. What happened to you happened from allostatic

>overload. This was years in the making. You're looking at a

>recovery period in terms of a couple of years. This does not mean you

>won't improve during this time, but don't expect the

>depersonalization to be gone for quite some time.

I know, I just wanted to check in and let you know how I was doing, I think

you told me to do that but maybe not. When should I check in w/ you?

Can I increase the Caprotein to 2x a day?

thanks for your time.

Chad

>

>

> Your body is detoxifying. We need to hold where we are with the

>supplements and allow this to happen. Being on overload means we

>need to approach this slowly do your body doesn't reject what is good

>for it.

>

>

>C

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I've been taking

> > Caprotein1x a day.

> > I've been taking the magnesium 250mg and vit C 1000mg from 7-3pm,

> > alternating between hours.

> > lethicin 3 x a day 520MG, fish oils 3 x a day 2000mg

> > Ultra Toddy 1x in morning 1x in evening

> > Mineral Toddy 1x at noon, 1x late in evening.

> >

> > I have noticed my mind is slightly settling down a bit, some

>nights I can

> > fall asleep faster and less interrupted as before. I still have

>the

> > depersonalization. Tight helmet feeling around my head.

> > nervousness, confusion at times, shaky feeling all over my body,

>body feels

> > weak after changed diet and taking supplements.

> >

> > Still have constipation or hard bowel movements, I have problems w/

> > hemorrhoids every summer so that could be a factor. Still on

>Klonopin and

> > still smoking. Wondering if we should changed anything or add

>anything.

> >

> > Thanks-Chad

> > >

> > >I have changed my diet a lot, meat, eggs, veggies, no bread, no

>grain,

> > >added

> > >nuts as well. I was wondering if we could add something or increase

> > >somthing? Since starting the Mineral and Ultra Toddy, I have

>notice I feel

> > >a

> > >little bloated as well. >>

> > >

> >

> > <<(from my orginal post)

> >

> >

> > I've been feeling this strange depersonalization now since Oct of

>last year

> > when I woke up from and had anxiety attack. I've been taking

>Clonazapam for

> > about 12 years now. The doctor started me on doxipan in Nov and

>Depakote,

> > (I haven't been on antidepressant for about 13 years) The doxipan

>made me

> > nervous and manic and depakote was horrible I was too weak, after

>about

> > three weeks the doc took me off both. I began to notice I had a

>dialogue

> > going in my head along with hearing music, so I the doc put me on

>risperdal,

> > I was only able to handle that for three or for days at the most,

>it made

> > matters much worse, I started to have extreme fear, along with more

>anxiety

> > and the dialogues got louder and I started to hallucinate.

> > I started Zoloft about a month ago on 15mg, per doc's orders. And I

>became

> > more nervous and along came dysphoria mania so I decided a week ago

>I wanted

> > to stop the medicine and go on something natural.

> >

> > The worst part of my symptoms are depersonalization, I'm

>hypersensitive to

> > smells, lights, sounds. My whole body feels tense, my mind feel

>like it is

> > being pushed from the inside out. I don't think the Clonazapam has

>really

> > done much to help, I'm on 1.5 mg a day. I would like to get off it

>as well

> > as find an alternative to antidepressants and moodstablizers and

>get rid of

> > the depersonalization.

> >

> > I haven't drank since Oct of 05, I used to drink a lot of beer for

>many

> > years. I've cut down on my coffee and I really need to quit

>smoking. But

> > again the depersonalization is the worst part about this.

> >

> > any ideas on what I should do? I am only on the Clonazapam and

>I've been

> > taking B complex with vitamin C for a few months now.>>

> >

> >

> > ** What you initially experienced is from the damage done by

>years of

> > drinking. IMO, damage from chronic drinking needs to be recognized

>and

> > talked about more. This will not be fixed by psychotropic drugs.

> > ** Considering what happened to you while drinking that caused all

>this

> > (it's called allostatic overload), it is important to get a good,

> > personalized protocol going. If it was just a simple,

>straightforward one

> > drug withdrawal with no complications, a consultation wouldn't be

>necessary.

> > The allostatic overload tells me you are drastically depleted in

>nutrients

> > and overloaded in toxins and free radicals, This will not go away

>on its

> > own.

> >

>

>

>

>