Re: Quite discouraged from our new regression

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Krassi

If he is doing it intentionally and not becos he cannot control his pee/poo, I dont think I would be too worried. My son went thru a phase where he purposely would pee on "his" things. Anything he thought was 'his' was fair game - legos, assorted toys, clothes, books, whatever......

It was like he was marking his territory. I never did figure out what the reason was. Luckily these kinds of intentional naughty behavior lasts a couple of weeks or so. Just make sure he knows that he is not supposed to do this and its not fun. Put him in timeout or something equivalent to that so he understands that its not acceptable and he doesnt feel good doing it/its not fun.

Dont worry, he will stop doing this when he has done it enough times and he himself doesnt think its fun anymore.

Shanthi

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 7:36:22 AMSubject: Quite discouraged from our new regression

Hello group,I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last 4-5 days we are having new problem with him.He started intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5 years old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and he knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He started doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard – every time when he sees that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to leave him even for 1 minute alone.I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need your help – it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago – 250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin 500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).I am so much lost what is causing this

and only 1 week ago my son was doing so good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person he has become. However, now this regression which makes me realize that improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and discouraged.Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?Thanks,Krassi

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It is very common to see a regression from valtrex 3 weeks into it. Does he have any rashes? Generally the kids start improving a lot by 50 to 60 days. Try to hang in there.

Subject: Quite discouraged from our new regressionTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 10:36 AM

Hello group,I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last 4-5 days we are having new problem with him.He started intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5 years old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and he knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He started doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard – every time when he sees that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to leave him even for 1 minute alone.I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need your help – it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago – 250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin 500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).I am so much lost what is causing

this and only 1 week ago my son was doing so good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person he has become. However, now this regression which makes me realize that improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and discouraged.Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?Thanks,Krassi

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Krassi,My ASD child too had this "mapping territory" behavior for a couple of weeks some years ago. He insisted in peeing into the water fountain in our backyard, aiming in whatever bottles he could find, or any low-land areas in the yard where it could form a small puddle of water. The behavior seems to be a "phase" thing for our kids. With this being said, if the naughty behavior persisted after a few weeks, I would check if parasites are still of an issue. Viruses can infect parasites. I would feel uncomfortable to proceed with treating viruses, if worms are still of an issue. Hope your son pass the phase soon. LiminKrassi If he is doing it intentionally and not becos he cannot control his pee/poo, I dont think I would be too worried. My son went thru a phase where he purposely would pee on "his" things. Anything he thought was 'his' was fair game - legos, assorted toys, clothes, books, whatever......It was like he was marking his territory. I never did figure out what the reason was. Luckily these kinds of intentional naughty behavior lasts a couple of weeks or so. Just make sure he knows that he is not supposed to do this and its not fun. Put him in timeout or something equivalent to that so he understands that its not acceptable and he doesnt feel good doing it/its not fun.Dont worry, he will stop doing this when he has done it enough times and he himself doesnt think its fun anymore. ShanthiTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 7:36:22 AMSubject: Quite discouraged from our new regressionHello group,I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last 4-5 days we are having new problem with him.He started intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5 years old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and he knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He started doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard – every time when he sees that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to leave him even for 1 minute alone.I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need your help – it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago – 250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin 500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).I am so much lost what is causing this and only 1 week ago my son was doing so good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person he has become. However, now this regression which makes me realize that improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and discouraged.Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?Thanks,Krassi

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Limin,

Would you explain to me little more why treating the viruses is not desirable if

there are still any parasites left?

My son went through the anti-parasite protocol 2 months ago and I was really

hoping this problem is behind. Last time my son was tested with the ART testing

(1 month ago) Dr. K said he has very minimum parasite problem, that's why I

haven't put much thought into the parasites.

However " very minimum " sounds that he still has some...

Not sure what to do, it seems that this is never ending chain of reactions and

killing one thing provokes other problems to develop.

I hope this regression is temporary and something really good will come after

that.

Krassi

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> > If he is doing it intentionally and not becos he cannot control his pee/poo,

I dont think I would be too worried. My son went thru a phase where he purposely

would pee on " his " things. Anything he thought was 'his' was fair game - legos,

assorted toys, clothes, books, whatever......

> > It was like he was marking his territory. I never did figure out what the

reason was. Luckily these kinds of intentional naughty behavior lasts a couple

of weeks or so. Just make sure he knows that he is not supposed to do this and

its not fun. Put him in timeout or something equivalent to that so he

understands that its not acceptable and he doesnt feel good doing it/its not

fun.

> > Dont worry, he will stop doing this when he has done it enough times and he

himself doesnt think its fun anymore.

> >

> > Shanthi

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> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> > Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 7:36:22 AM

> > Subject: Quite discouraged from our

new regression

> >

> > Hello group,

> > I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last

4-5 days we are having new problem with him.

> > He started intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5

years old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and

he knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He

started doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard – every time when he

sees that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to

leave him even for 1 minute alone.

> > I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need

your help – it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and

probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago –

250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin

500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).

> > I am so much lost what is causing this and only 1 week ago my son was doing

so good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person

he has become. However, now this regression which makes me realize that

improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and

discouraged.

> > Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?

> > Thanks,

> > Krassi

> >

> >

> >

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> >

>

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I have been watching him very carefully with hope to see any rashes or any

other indication that he might be going through detox reaction, but he doesn't

have any. The only different thing is that he is coughing a lot, I don't know if

it is from the antibiotic or simply he got a cold.

I guess what makes me sad and discouraged from this whole situation is that

although we have been already more than 2 years on this difficult road of

recovery I still cannot get used to the constant ups and downs. I need to see

some permanent improvement that stays there.

Krassi

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regression

> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 10:36 AM

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> Hello group,

> I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last 4-5

days we are having new problem with him.

> He started intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5 years

old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and he

knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He started

doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard †" every time when he sees

that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to

leave him even for 1 minute alone.

> I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need your

help †" it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and

probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago †"

250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin

500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).

> I am so much lost what is causing this and only 1 week ago my son was doing so

good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person he

has become. However, now this regression which makes me realize that

improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and

discouraged.

> Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?

> Thanks,

> Krassi

>

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You really have a lot going on in the biomedical wagon.....valtrex with a strog antibiotic......you are fighting both bacterial and herpes virus.....it can be taxing on the body.....try to keep things as even as possible with no demands or just light demands, give lots of epsom salt baths and try to find things he likes to do.

Subject: Re: Quite discouraged from our new regressionTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 3:28 PM

,I have been watching him very carefully with hope to see any rashes or any other indication that he might be going through detox reaction, but he doesn't have any. The only different thing is that he is coughing a lot, I don't know if it is from the antibiotic or simply he got a cold.I guess what makes me sad and discouraged from this whole situation is that although we have been already more than 2 years on this difficult road of recovery I still cannot get used to the constant ups and downs. I need to see some permanent improvement that stays there.Krassi> > > > Subject: Quite discouraged from our new regression> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 10:36 AM> > > Â > > > > Hello group,> I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last 4-5 days we are having new problem with him.> He started

intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5 years old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and he knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He started doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard â€" every time when he sees that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to leave him even for 1 minute alone.> I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need your help â€" it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago â€" 250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin 500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).> I am so much lost what is causing this and only 1 week ago my son was doing so good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person he has become.

However, now this regression which makes me realize that improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and discouraged.> Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?> Thanks,> Krassi>

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Krassi,

If DK muscle tested and decided that parasite load was low and your child was

ready for antiviral, it should be alright. Some years ago, it was in one of

DK's articles suggesting an infection treatment order. He mentioned that

treating tonsil infection first, otherwise brain toxins can not be drained

through the inflamed, infected tonsils - part of lymphoepithelial tissues. He

also suggested first de-worm, and then treating bacterial infections and then

viruses, so that the treatments can be more effective, as bacteria and viruses

can also infect parasites.

Perhaps run a Zyto scan to help identifying issues, if your son does not pass

the " behavioral " phase soon.

Limin

> Limin,

> Would you explain to me little more why treating the viruses is not desirable

if there are still any parasites left?

> My son went through the anti-parasite protocol 2 months ago and I was really

hoping this problem is behind. Last time my son was tested with the ART testing

(1 month ago) Dr. K said he has very minimum parasite problem, that's why I

haven't put much thought into the parasites.

> However " very minimum " sounds that he still has some...

> Not sure what to do, it seems that this is never ending chain of reactions and

killing one thing provokes other problems to develop.

> I hope this regression is temporary and something really good will come after

that.

> Krassi

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>>> Krassi

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>>> If he is doing it intentionally and not becos he cannot control his pee/poo,

I dont think I would be too worried. My son went thru a phase where he purposely

would pee on " his " things. Anything he thought was 'his' was fair game - legos,

assorted toys, clothes, books, whatever......

>>> It was like he was marking his territory. I never did figure out what the

reason was. Luckily these kinds of intentional naughty behavior lasts a couple

of weeks or so. Just make sure he knows that he is not supposed to do this and

its not fun. Put him in timeout or something equivalent to that so he

understands that its not acceptable and he doesnt feel good doing it/its not

fun.

>>> Dont worry, he will stop doing this when he has done it enough times and he

himself doesnt think its fun anymore.

>>>

>>> Shanthi

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>>> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

>>> Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 7:36:22 AM

>>> Subject: Quite discouraged from our

new regression

>>>

>>> Hello group,

>>> I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last

4-5 days we are having new problem with him.

>>> He started intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5

years old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and

he knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He

started doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard – every time when he

sees that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to

leave him even for 1 minute alone.

>>> I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need

your help – it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and

probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago –

250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin

500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).

>>> I am so much lost what is causing this and only 1 week ago my son was doing

so good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person

he has become. However, now this regression which makes me realize that

improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and

discouraged.

>>> Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?

>>> Thanks,

>>> Krassi

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Limin,

What was this Drs treatment to detox the tonsils first?

Michele

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> Krassi,

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> If DK muscle tested and decided that parasite load was low and your child was

ready for antiviral, it should be alright. Some years ago, it was in one of

DK's articles suggesting an infection treatment order. He mentioned that

treating tonsil infection first, otherwise brain toxins can not be drained

through the inflamed, infected tonsils - part of lymphoepithelial tissues. He

also suggested first de-worm, and then treating bacterial infections and then

viruses, so that the treatments can be more effective, as bacteria and viruses

can also infect parasites.

>

> Perhaps run a Zyto scan to help identifying issues, if your son does not pass

the " behavioral " phase soon.

>

> Limin

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>> Limin,

>> Would you explain to me little more why treating the viruses is not desirable

if there are still any parasites left?

>> My son went through the anti-parasite protocol 2 months ago and I was really

hoping this problem is behind. Last time my son was tested with the ART testing

(1 month ago) Dr. K said he has very minimum parasite problem, that's why I

haven't put much thought into the parasites.

>> However " very minimum " sounds that he still has some...

>> Not sure what to do, it seems that this is never ending chain of reactions

and killing one thing provokes other problems to develop.

>> I hope this regression is temporary and something really good will come after

that.

>> Krassi

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Krassi

>>>>

>>>> If he is doing it intentionally and not becos he cannot control his

pee/poo, I dont think I would be too worried. My son went thru a phase where he

purposely would pee on " his " things. Anything he thought was 'his' was fair game

- legos, assorted toys, clothes, books, whatever......

>>>> It was like he was marking his territory. I never did figure out what the

reason was. Luckily these kinds of intentional naughty behavior lasts a couple

of weeks or so. Just make sure he knows that he is not supposed to do this and

its not fun. Put him in timeout or something equivalent to that so he

understands that its not acceptable and he doesnt feel good doing it/its not

fun.

>>>> Dont worry, he will stop doing this when he has done it enough times and he

himself doesnt think its fun anymore.

>>>>

>>>> Shanthi

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

>>>> Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 7:36:22 AM

>>>> Subject: Quite discouraged from our

new regression

>>>>

>>>> Hello group,

>>>> I need some advice what to do and what to test for my son because the last

4-5 days we are having new problem with him.

>>>> He started intentionally pooping or peeing not in the bathroom (he is 5

years old and he has been potty trained for approximately 2 years already) and

he knows we don't like this, but he is doing it what it seems for fun. He

started doing it inside the house or outside in the yeard – every time when he

sees that nobody is watching him, he would immediately do it. Now I am afraid to

leave him even for 1 minute alone.

>>>> I am not sure what is causing this new behavous and here is where I need

your help – it is possible to be yeast problem (we give him Diflucan and

probiotics), parasites, regression from Valtrex (we started it 3 weeks ago –

250mg/3 times day) or some PANDAS new OCD issue (we started also Azithromycin

500mg once per week, so far he has had 3 times only).

>>>> I am so much lost what is causing this and only 1 week ago my son was doing

so good, I was telling everybody how much more connected and affectionate person

he has become. However, now this regression which makes me realize that

improvements are never permanent with us, which makes me very sad and

discouraged.

>>>> Any ideas? Has anybody had similar problem?

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Krassi

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