Re: Dr. Shoemaker and Autism WAS Re: VIP

[Guest guest]

Thane,

I don't think that many have tried the nasal spray of VIP. Dr. RS just

published his new research work a few months ago. I don't know if anyone in

this group participated in his clinical trial. Hope others can chime in. I do

know this: He requires patients to sign a content form for two things before

starting VIP treatment.

1. A negative test result on the patient's home mold testing.

2. A negative test result for Multiply Antibiotic Resistant Coag Neg Staph.

Because if the patient has ongoing exposure to mold or has Staph infection in

the sinus and nasal areas, the treatment of VIP might not work.

Limin

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> Hi Limin, could you are anyone else who's reading this tell me whether autism

has been helped by following Dr. Shoemaker's biotoxin protocol? Thank you,

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> Thane

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>> Vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) is a peptide hormone containing 28 amino

acid residues and is produced in many areas of the human body including the gut,

pancreas, and suprachiasmatic nuclei of the hypothalamus in the brain. VIP acts

as hormones, neurotransmitters, immune modulators and neurotrophes in the body.

Dr. RS recently started recommending low dose of VIP in the form of nasal spray

for treating systemic inflammation response syndrome. In the gut, VIP

stimulates pancreatic bicarbonates secretion. In the brain, VIP plays a key

role in communication between individual brain cells.

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>> Immunomodulation of innate immune responses by vasoactive intestinal peptide

(VIP): its therapeutic potential in inflammatory disease:

>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19604262

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>> The significance of vasoactive intestinal peptide in immunomodulation:

>> http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/56/2/249.short

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>> Is chronic fatigue syndrome an autoimmune disorder o endogenous

neuropeptides, exogenous infection and molecular mimicry?

>> http://cfids-cab.org/cfs-inform/MitochondrialATP/staines04.pdf

>>

>> Limin

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[Guest guest]

His book was published in February this year.

Surviving Mold

http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Mold-Dangerous-Buildings-ebook/dp/B004NSVIYM/ref\

=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8 & m=AG56TWVU5XWC2 & s=books & qid=1303673495 & sr=8-2

Limin

> Thane,

>

> I don't think that many have tried the nasal spray of VIP. Dr. RS just

published his new research work a few months ago. I don't know if anyone in

this group participated in his clinical trial. Hope others can chime in. I do

know this: He requires patients to sign a content form for two things before

starting VIP treatment.

>

> 1. A negative test result on the patient's home mold testing.

> 2. A negative test result for Multiply Antibiotic Resistant Coag Neg Staph.

>

> Because if the patient has ongoing exposure to mold or has Staph infection in

the sinus and nasal areas, the treatment of VIP might not work.

>

> Limin

>

>

>

>

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>> Hi Limin, could you are anyone else who's reading this tell me whether autism

has been helped by following Dr. Shoemaker's biotoxin protocol? Thank you,

>>

>> Thane

>>

>>

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>>> Vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) is a peptide hormone containing 28 amino

acid residues and is produced in many areas of the human body including the gut,

pancreas, and suprachiasmatic nuclei of the hypothalamus in the brain. VIP acts

as hormones, neurotransmitters, immune modulators and neurotrophes in the body.

Dr. RS recently started recommending low dose of VIP in the form of nasal spray

for treating systemic inflammation response syndrome. In the gut, VIP

stimulates pancreatic bicarbonates secretion. In the brain, VIP plays a key

role in communication between individual brain cells.

>>>

>>> Immunomodulation of innate immune responses by vasoactive intestinal peptide

(VIP): its therapeutic potential in inflammatory disease:

>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19604262

>>>

>>> The significance of vasoactive intestinal peptide in immunomodulation:

>>> http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/56/2/249.short

>>>

>>> Is chronic fatigue syndrome an autoimmune disorder o endogenous

neuropeptides, exogenous infection and molecular mimicry?

>>> http://cfids-cab.org/cfs-inform/MitochondrialATP/staines04.pdf

>>>

>>> Limin

>>>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Thane

I think the mold is huge for many of us. Have you had the HLA genotype testing done? My daughter, M.had a huge relapse a few years ago after caring for a friend's horse in a moldy stable.....she must always avoid mold with great discipline.....I'm going to get Shoemaker's new book as well. Thanks for the head's up Limin and Thane

 

Best,

 

Thank you, Limin.I have a lot of trouble reading so I hadn't purchased Surviving Mold, but i just ordered it now and will give it a try. ART testing is showing i've dramatically reduced my infection load but i'm still quite sick. It seems I have this persistent cytokine storm going on that Dr. Shoemaker talks about and want to try his protocol. The reason I asked about whether anyone's tried it for autism is I have mild autism as a result of my chronic lyme. The thing that worries me is that Shoe says in reference to mold illness that the patient must be removed from the mold toxic environment if the protocol is to work, and if they have a re-exposure the protocol must be started over again. Since I still do have some lyme infection present it seems like the biotoxins in my body can be compared to a mold patient still being in a mold toxic environment, and every herx reaction I suffer will be like another biotoxin exposure. So I have some doubts about whether Shoe's protocol can work for someone with lyme. But I still have a lot to understand about this and welcome any thoughts or information from you and others.

Thank you, Thane

> >> > >> Vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) is a peptide hormone containing 28 amino acid residues and is produced in many areas of the human body including the gut, pancreas, and suprachiasmatic nuclei of the hypothalamus in the brain. VIP acts as hormones, neurotransmitters, immune modulators and neurotrophes in the body. Dr. RS recently started recommending low dose of VIP in the form of nasal spray for treating systemic inflammation response syndrome. In the gut, VIP stimulates pancreatic bicarbonates secretion. In the brain, VIP plays a key role in communication between individual brain cells.

> >> > >> Immunomodulation of innate immune responses by vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP): its therapeutic potential in inflammatory disease:> >> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19604262

> >> > >> The significance of vasoactive intestinal peptide in immunomodulation:> >> http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/56/2/249.short

> >> > >> Is chronic fatigue syndrome an autoimmune disorder o endogenous neuropeptides, exogenous infection and molecular mimicry?> >> http://cfids-cab.org/cfs-inform/MitochondrialATP/staines04.pdf

> >> > >> Limin> >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thane,

Dr. RS's HLA genotype testing is consist of several genotypes, including

inflammation-prone (low MSH), susceptibility for Lyme toxins, susceptibility for

multiple infection, etc., in additional to susceptibility for mold toxins.

Autism is just a label, which doesn't provide any specific information to

illustrate one's particular health tissues, challenges. For those who are

tested positive for any of the HLA genotypes, I would think that Dr. RS's work

can provide some information to help with treatment focus. I think whether his

recommended treatments work or not is another point entirely. One can always

research for treatments that are more appropriate, effective for the individual,

to address the issues discovered via Dr. RS's research and labs. His whole

point is on treating people who have been sick for long time, even though they

had been treated for infections.

Just my two cents.

Limin

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> Hi ! I've not had the HLA genotype testing done yet. ART testing is

showing i'm not having much of a mold problem, but I still think Shoe's stuff

has a lot to offer lyme patients because of the biotoxins. My inflammatory

issues are far out of proportion to my infection load so I am hoping Shoe's

protocol can turn it off for me. Hopefully the book has some answers for me

too.

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> Thane

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>>>>>> Vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) is a peptide hormone containing 28

>>> amino acid residues and is produced in many areas of the human body

>>> including the gut, pancreas, and suprachiasmatic nuclei of the hypothalamus

>>> in the brain. VIP acts as hormones, neurotransmitters, immune modulators and

>>> neurotrophes in the body. Dr. RS recently started recommending low dose of

>>> VIP in the form of nasal spray for treating systemic inflammation response

>>> syndrome. In the gut, VIP stimulates pancreatic bicarbonates secretion. In

>>> the brain, VIP plays a key role in communication between individual brain

>>> cells.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Immunomodulation of innate immune responses by vasoactive intestinal

>>> peptide (VIP): its therapeutic potential in inflammatory disease:

>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19604262

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The significance of vasoactive intestinal peptide in immunomodulation:

>>>>>> http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/56/2/249.short

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Is chronic fatigue syndrome an autoimmune disorder o endogenous

>>> neuropeptides, exogenous infection and molecular mimicry?

>>>>>> http://cfids-cab.org/cfs-inform/MitochondrialATP/staines04.pdf

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Limin

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[Guest guest]

What is the title of the book?

> I am still in the beginning stages of reading this book. His idea to loosen up

> biofilm in the sinus cavity is huge I feel. No one is addressing this part.

> The sinus is so close to the brain, I could see where this would be a big

> problem for many autistics. My son has autism and is doing very very well with

> several things. Right now we have mostly ocd about doors at the moment, but

> very conversational. Chelation is a big part of getting well. We use Andy

> Cutlers protocol. But also, RS's ideas sound very plausible even if there is

> no mold. It's about biotoxins. Which he also mentions come from waterways as

> well. Just the binder alone could do alot to bring inflammation down from

> toxic load. There are so many factors to look for in treating autism and

> inflammation. I believe the biggest is getting blood circulating well into the

> small veins to the organs which are constricted from who knows what. Too much

> seratonin does this as well. You could look into his fees and see if he's

> taking patients or ask about autism treatment recommendations in general.

>

> jenib

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>>>>>>> Vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) is a peptide hormone containing 28

>>>> amino acid residues and is produced in many areas of the human body

>>>> including the gut, pancreas, and suprachiasmatic nuclei of the hypothalamus

>>>> in the brain. VIP acts as hormones, neurotransmitters, immune modulators

>>>> and

>>>> neurotrophes in the body. Dr. RS recently started recommending low dose of

>>>> VIP in the form of nasal spray for treating systemic inflammation response

>>>> syndrome. In the gut, VIP stimulates pancreatic bicarbonates secretion. In

>>>> the brain, VIP plays a key role in communication between individual brain

>>>> cells.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Immunomodulation of innate immune responses by vasoactive intestinal

>>>> peptide (VIP): its therapeutic potential in inflammatory disease:

>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19604262

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The significance of vasoactive intestinal peptide in immunomodulation:

>>>>>>> http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/56/2/249.short

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Is chronic fatigue syndrome an autoimmune disorder o endogenous

>>>> neuropeptides, exogenous infection and molecular mimicry?

>>>>>>> http://cfids-cab.org/cfs-inform/MitochondrialATP/staines04.pdf

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Limin

>>>>>>>

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[Guest guest]

Surviving Mold

http://www.survivingmold.com/

http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Mold-Dangerous-Buildings-ebook/dp/B004NSVIYM/ref\

=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8 & m=AG56TWVU5XWC2 & s=books & qid=1303745197 & sr=8-2

Limin

> What is the title of the book?

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>> I am still in the beginning stages of reading this book. His idea to loosen

up

>> biofilm in the sinus cavity is huge I feel. No one is addressing this part.

>> The sinus is so close to the brain, I could see where this would be a big

>> problem for many autistics. My son has autism and is doing very very well

with

>> several things. Right now we have mostly ocd about doors at the moment, but

>> very conversational. Chelation is a big part of getting well. We use Andy

>> Cutlers protocol. But also, RS's ideas sound very plausible even if there is

>> no mold. It's about biotoxins. Which he also mentions come from waterways as

>> well. Just the binder alone could do alot to bring inflammation down from

>> toxic load. There are so many factors to look for in treating autism and

>> inflammation. I believe the biggest is getting blood circulating well into

the

>> small veins to the organs which are constricted from who knows what. Too much

>> seratonin does this as well. You could look into his fees and see if he's

>> taking patients or ask about autism treatment recommendations in general.

>>

>> jenib

>>

>>

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>>>>>>>> Vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) is a peptide hormone containing 28

>>>>> amino acid residues and is produced in many areas of the human body

>>>>> including the gut, pancreas, and suprachiasmatic nuclei of the

hypothalamus

>>>>> in the brain. VIP acts as hormones, neurotransmitters, immune modulators

>>>>> and

>>>>> neurotrophes in the body. Dr. RS recently started recommending low dose of

>>>>> VIP in the form of nasal spray for treating systemic inflammation response

>>>>> syndrome. In the gut, VIP stimulates pancreatic bicarbonates secretion. In

>>>>> the brain, VIP plays a key role in communication between individual brain

>>>>> cells.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Immunomodulation of innate immune responses by vasoactive intestinal

>>>>> peptide (VIP): its therapeutic potential in inflammatory disease:

>>>>>>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19604262

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The significance of vasoactive intestinal peptide in immunomodulation:

>>>>>>>> http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/56/2/249.short

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Is chronic fatigue syndrome an autoimmune disorder o endogenous

>>>>> neuropeptides, exogenous infection and molecular mimicry?

>>>>>>>> http://cfids-cab.org/cfs-inform/MitochondrialATP/staines04.pdf

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Limin

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