Re: REBT and Positive Psychology

August 22, 2011

Everyone is different so I am pleased you found something that helps but I really didn't like the Albert Ellis REBT stufff so I soon got rid of the books and stuck to the brillaint Dr Burns stuff instead. Albert Ellis seemed to spend all his time telling me how neurotic I was and bad this is which further damaged my self esteem. I might have a unique sensitivity here, but it didn't work for me as I felt I was just getting one big telling off all the time. I like ACT books because many of the authors have gone through these things themselves and so I don't feel that I am being criticised for having these kind of problems - there's a sense of comradeship. And Dr Burns is also good at making you feel that your neurosis is not something you should be ashamed of because everyone has it a bit of it.

I did keep one book on REBT, though, The Mythology of Self Worth by L ling because it is good and so if you like REBT you should check this one out. It's an interesting book although I still felt that REBT was trying to magic away my problems with a sleight of hand. For insatnce, L lin says that as there is no such thing as self worth then why not turn up a party dressed in drag. Crikey! (I kind of get tempted, though, but it would probably be a big, big, mistake).

The Mythology of Self Worth: Using Reason to Dispel the Fallacies That Trigger Needless Anxiety, Depression and Anger

http://www.amazon.com/Mythology-Self-Worth-Fallacies-Depression/dp/1857039602/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1313998798 & sr=8-1

Kv

>> Hi All,> > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of it.> Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to Albert> Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost all of> his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is different than> ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about thinking about> your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your thinking. This is> similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about noticing he> is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in> conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but not the sin> - results in defusion.> > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I return to> that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and meditation so I do> get the mindful stuff that way.> > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast Shrink Rap> Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've read some on> this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even before> Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by Barbara> Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again. I like the> emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology is focus on> the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both positive and> negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I know some of> you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be positive is not so> much.> > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my study of that. I> have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something- and will> continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved with ACT. I> will sort of follow along here for a while.> > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole lot about> REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If I do seem to> talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the moderators, please tell> me and I'll cut back.> > Thanks!> > >

August 22, 2011

Have you ever had a mean stern teacher but for some reason he made you laugh. Ellis is that way. Yes he's in your face telling you how your thinking is nutty, but he actually makes me laugh. Watch him on youtube. He's funny!

Here's how I'm combining REBT, ACT and PP (positive psychology)Russ's term for acceptance is expansion. I.e. making room for your emotions and thoughts. PP points out that sinking low into negative emotions eats up all your space so that you have no room for positive emotions or to notice anything positive in your life. The ABCD of REBT can change the extreme negative emotions of deep depression or rage to just sadness or annoyance. That will create more room. Then use ACT to expand and make even more room. Then use PP to notice the positive in your life and have positive emotions.

Does this sound pretty nutty to you all?

Burns book, Feeling Good, was the best thing I had ever read at

the time so it is a book I will never get rid of. I think, though, if

you can stand it, Albert Ellis's REBT plus mindfulness might be a pretty

powerful therapy. And it is certainly big on acceptance - 'you can be

happy no matter what', say's Ellis, which is most certainly true, but

can most people stand it?

Rather than inspire me, I found the Albert Ellis's books to be

terryfying. And I have never been too good at the acceptance thing

either - I know what I want and I am going for it. Neuoplasticity and

programmable genes (epigenetics), I still reckon I'm in for a chance.

What is strange is that I do a lot of facing the pain as a way of

getting used to it. I allow myself to just go into it, which I think is

the Albert Ellis way. Except I am doing it to get to where I want to be,

and not for pure acceptance sake. But I accept all suffering I

experience in the moment - with willingness - even though it ties my

stomach in knots and gives me chronic indigestion, plus all sorts of

other horrible scary ache and pains. I just hope I survive long enough

to recover before this kills me.

Kv

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of

it.

> > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to

Albert

> > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost

all of

> > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is

different than

> > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about

thinking about

> > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your

thinking. This is

> > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about

noticing he

> > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in

> > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but

not the sin

> > > - results in defusion.

> > >

> > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I

return to

> > > that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and meditation

so I do

> > > get the mindful stuff that way.

> > >

> > > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast

Shrink Rap

> > > Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've read

some on

> > > this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even before

> > > Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by

Barbara

> > > Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again. I

like the

> > > emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology is

focus on

> > > the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both positive

and

> > > negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I know

some of

> > > you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be positive

is not so

> > > much.

> > >

> > > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my study

of that. I

> > > have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something- and

will

> > > continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved with

ACT. I

> > > will sort of follow along here for a while.

> > >

> > > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole lot

about

> > > REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If I

do seem to

> > > talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the moderators,

please tell

> > > me and I'll cut back.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> >

>

August 22, 2011

Kaivey,If you liked lin's book, I think you will like this REBT book:The Silly Mind: Learning to Take Life 'More or Less' Seriously by Lima.

Everyone is different so I am pleased you found something that helps but I really didn't like the Albert Ellis REBT stufff so I soon got rid of the books and stuck to the brillaint Dr Burns stuff instead. Albert Ellis seemed to spend all his time telling me how neurotic I was and bad this is which further damaged my self esteem. I might have a unique sensitivity here, but it didn't work for me as I felt I was just getting one big telling off all the time. I like ACT books because many of the authors have gone through these things themselves and so I don't feel that I am being criticised for having these kind of problems - there's a sense of comradeship. And Dr Burns is also good at making you feel that your neurosis is not something you should be ashamed of because everyone has it a bit of it.

I did keep one book on REBT, though, The Mythology of Self Worth by L ling because it is good and so if you like REBT you should check this one out. It's an interesting book although I still felt that REBT was trying to magic away my problems with a sleight of hand. For insatnce, L lin says that as there is no such thing as self worth then why not turn up a party dressed in drag. Crikey! (I kind of get tempted, though, but it would probably be a big, big, mistake).

The Mythology of Self Worth: Using Reason to Dispel the Fallacies That Trigger Needless Anxiety, Depression and Anger

http://www.amazon.com/Mythology-Self-Worth-Fallacies-Depression/dp/1857039602/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1313998798 & sr=8-1

Kv

>> Hi All,> > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of it.

> Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to Albert> Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost all of> his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is different than

> ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about thinking about> your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your thinking. This is> similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about noticing he

> is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in> conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but not the sin> - results in defusion.> > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I return to

> that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and meditation so I do> get the mindful stuff that way.> > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast Shrink Rap> Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've read some on

> this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even before> Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by Barbara> Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again. I like the

> emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology is focus on> the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both positive and> negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I know some of

> you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be positive is not so> much.> > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my study of that. I> have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something- and will

> continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved with ACT. I> will sort of follow along here for a while.> > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole lot about

> REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If I do seem to> talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the moderators, please tell> me and I'll cut back.> > Thanks!

> > >

August 23, 2011

Actually, Burns is quite big on what he calls the 'Acceptance

Parodox' which he says has its roots in the eastern tradition. He say's

that CBT therapists have many tools that they can use and some work

better for some people than others. But CBT doesn't feel anything like

ACT in any other way in my experience.

Kv

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2

of it.

> > > > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar

to Albert

> > > > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read

almost all of

> > > > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is

different than

> > > > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about

thinking about

> > > > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your

thinking. This is

> > > > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about

noticing he

> > > > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in

> > > > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner

but not the sin

> > > > > - results in defusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and

so I return to

> > > > > that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and

meditation so I do

> > > > > get the mindful stuff that way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast

Shrink Rap

> > > > > Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've

read some on

> > > > > this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even

before

> > > > > Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by

Barbara

> > > > > Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again.

I like the

> > > > > emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology

is focus on

> > > > > the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both

positive and

> > > > > negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I

know some of

> > > > > you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be

positive is not so

> > > > > much.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my

study of that. I

> > > > > have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something-

and will

> > > > > continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved

with ACT. I

> > > > > will sort of follow along here for a while.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole

lot about

> > > > > REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If

I do seem to

> > > > > talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the

moderators, please tell

> > > > > me and I'll cut back.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 23, 2011

IMHO the PP part about sinking low into negative emotions and it eating up all

your space seems the opposite of what I like about ACT. For instance right now I

am struggling (yes I said struggling, I am working on turning off that switch)

with anxiety about being a good teacher. Reading that about not sinking into

negative emotions makes me panic and think what if I can't quit sinking, I am

doomed. I detect an air of things not being acceptable. That is what is enticing

about the theory behind ACT. All is acceptable.I hope I am right in saying I

even get to accept my struggle. So even though I have a lot of thoughts I am

still not accepting, I know it is ok to accept them. Now, did I make any

sense????

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of

> > it.

> > > > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to

> > Albert

> > > > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost

> > all of

> > > > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is

> > different than

> > > > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about

> > thinking about

> > > > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your

> > thinking. This is

> > > > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about

> > noticing he

> > > > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in

> > > > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but

> > not the sin

> > > > > - results in defusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I

> > return to

> > > > > that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and meditation

> > so I do

> > > > > get the mindful stuff that way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast

> > Shrink Rap

> > > > > Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've read

> > some on

> > > > > this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even before

> > > > > Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by

> > Barbara

> > > > > Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again. I

> > like the

> > > > > emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology is

> > focus on

> > > > > the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both positive

> > and

> > > > > negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I know

> > some of

> > > > > you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be positive

> > is not so

> > > > > much.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my study

> > of that. I

> > > > > have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something- and

> > will

> > > > > continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved with

> > ACT. I

> > > > > will sort of follow along here for a while.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole lot

> > about

> > > > > REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If I

> > do seem to

> > > > > talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the moderators,

> > please tell

> > > > > me and I'll cut back.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 23, 2011

What does REBT stand for?

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of it.

> > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to Albert

> > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost all of

> > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is different than

> > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about thinking

> > about

> > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your thinking. This

> > is

> > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about noticing he

> > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in

> > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but not the

> > sin

> > > - results in defusion.

> > >

> > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I return

> > to

> > > that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and meditation so I do

> > > get the mindful stuff that way.

> > >

> > > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast Shrink Rap

> > > Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've read some on

> > > this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even before

> > > Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by Barbara

> > > Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again. I like the

> > > emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology is focus on

> > > the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both positive and

> > > negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I know some of

> > > you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be positive is not

> > so

> > > much.

> > >

> > > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my study of that.

> > I

> > > have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something- and will

> > > continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved with ACT. I

> > > will sort of follow along here for a while.

> > >

> > > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole lot about

> > > REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If I do seem

> > to

> > > talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the moderators, please

> > tell

> > > me and I'll cut back.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> >

>

August 23, 2011

Any way to get Confidence Gap earlier in the US? I see Amazon will let me preorder for October. Sender: ACT_for_the_Public Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:52:55 -0600To: ACT_for_the_Public <ACT_for_the_Public >ReplyTo: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Re: Re: REBT and Positive PsychologyI sent this from my iPhone. Hard to type much on it. I think Ellis's views on self Esteem and self acceptance is very important. Burns has similar views. And in The Confidence Gap, Russ express what appears to me as the same view. And the book Kaivey suggested by lin expresses the same view. Of course there is big difference between ACT and REBT but there is also a pretty large overlap.Self esteem and USA unconditional self acceptance.Sent from my iPhone , I'm curious - what would be an example of similar views with Burns & Russ ? I have both books but hadn't thought to look for similarities.- Randy> > >> > > Hi All,> > > > > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of it.> > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to Albert> > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost all of> > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is different than> > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about thinking about> > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your thinking. This is> > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about noticing he> > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in> > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but not the sin> > > - results in defusion.> > > > > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I return to> > > that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and meditation so I do> > > get the mindful stuff that way.> > > > > > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast Shrink Rap> > > Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've read some on> > > this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even before> > > Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by Barbara> > > Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again. I like the> > > emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology is focus on> > > the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both positive and> > > negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I know some of> > > you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be positive is not so> > > much.> > > > > > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my study of that. I> > > have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something- and will> > > continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved with ACT. I> > > will sort of follow along here for a while.> > > > > > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole lot about> > > REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If I do seem to> > > talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the moderators, please tell> > > me and I'll cut back.> > > > > > Thanks!> > > > > > > > >> > > >>

August 23, 2011

you could try here:

http://www.bookdepository.com/Confidence-Gap-Dr-Russ-/9781849016889?select\

Currency=USD

Kate

>

> Any way to get Confidence Gap earlier in the US? I see Amazon will let me

preorder for October.

August 23, 2011

REBT = Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of it.

> > > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to Albert

> > > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost all

of

> > > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is different than

> > > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about thinking

> > > about

> > > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your thinking. This

> > > is

> > > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about noticing

he

> > > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in

> > > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but not the

> > > sin

> > > > - results in defusion.

> > > >

> > > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I return

> > > to

> > > > that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and meditation so I do

> > > > get the mindful stuff that way.

> > > >

> > > > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast Shrink Rap

> > > > Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've read some on

> > > > this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even before

> > > > Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by Barbara

> > > > Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again. I like

the

> > > > emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology is focus on

> > > > the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both positive and

> > > > negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I know some

of

> > > > you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be positive is not

> > > so

> > > > much.

> > > >

> > > > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my study of

that.

> > > I

> > > > have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something- and will

> > > > continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved with ACT.

I

> > > > will sort of follow along here for a while.

> > > >

> > > > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole lot about

> > > > REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If I do seem

> > > to

> > > > talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the moderators, please

> > > tell

> > > > me and I'll cut back.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 23, 2011

It's not available there either - good web site though!

> you could try here:

>

http://www.bookdepository.com/Confidence-Gap-Dr-Russ-/9781849016889?select\

Currency=USD

>

> Kate

>

>>

>> Any way to get Confidence Gap earlier in the US? I see Amazon will let me

preorder for October.

>

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August 23, 2011

Thanks ,

I found Silly Mind going cheap S/H on Amazon and decided to buy it. It

had very good reviews.

Kv

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2

of it.

> > > > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar

to Albert

> > > > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read

almost all of

> > > > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is

different than

> > > > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about

thinking

> > > > about

> > > > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your

thinking. This

> > > > is

> > > > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about

noticing he

> > > > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in

> > > > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner

but not the

> > > > sin

> > > > > - results in defusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and

so I return

> > > > to

> > > > > that. I like the more directness of it. I do yoga and

meditation so I do

> > > > > get the mindful stuff that way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now after listening to Russ being interviewed on the podcast

Shrink Rap

> > > > > Radio, I got interested in Positive Psychology again. I've

read some on

> > > > > this before. I've read most of all of Seligman's books even

before

> > > > > Authentic Happiness. I listened to audio book Positivity by

Barbara

> > > > > Fredrickson a year or two ago. I'd like to revisit that again.

I like the

> > > > > emphasis on positive emotions. It seem so much of psychology

is focus on

> > > > > the negative. ACT it seems could focus and accept both

positive and

> > > > > negative but this list seems to be mostly on the negative. I

know some of

> > > > > you might argue that is not so but even what seems to be

positive is not

> > > > so

> > > > > much.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find RFT and FC very interesting and so will continue my

study of that.

> > > > I

> > > > > have a couple books by a Swede - forgot name Niklas something-

and will

> > > > > continue reading those. Otherwise I might not be too involved

with ACT. I

> > > > > will sort of follow along here for a while.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't want to come on here, a forum for ACT and talk a whole

lot about

> > > > > REBT and positive psychology so I probably won't post much. If

I do seem

> > > > to

> > > > > talk too much about REBT and PP, then or the

moderators, please

> > > > tell

> > > > > me and I'll cut back.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 23, 2011

There is a kindle edition of The Confidence Gap available at Amazon UK if you don't mind reading books that way.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Confidence-Gap-ebook/dp/B004Q9T3GI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8 & qid=1314114188 & sr=8-2

Kv

Kv> >>> >> Any way to get Confidence Gap earlier in the US? I see Amazon will let me preorder for October.> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> > For other ACT materials and list serves see www.contextualpsychology.org> >> > If you do not wish to belong to ACT_for_the_Public, you may> > unsubscribe by sending an email to> > ACT_for_the_Public-unsubscribe@...! Groups Links> >> >> >> >>

August 23, 2011

I bought used copy from amazon. It will be publish in a week or so on US.Sent from my iPhone

Any way to get Confidence Gap earlier in the US? I see Amazon will let me preorder for October.

Sender: ACT_for_the_Public

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:52:55 -0600To: ACT_for_the_Public <ACT_for_the_Public >ReplyTo: ACT_for_the_Public

Subject: Re: Re: REBT and Positive Psychology

I sent this from my iPhone. Hard to type much on it. I think Ellis's views on self Esteem and self acceptance is very important. Burns has similar views. And in The Confidence Gap, Russ express what appears to me as the same view. And the book Kaivey suggested by lin expresses the same view.

Of course there is big difference between ACT and REBT but there is also a pretty large overlap.

Self esteem and USA unconditional self acceptance.Sent from my iPhone

,

I'm curious - what would be an example of similar views with Burns &

Russ ? I have both books but hadn't thought to look for similarities.

- Randy

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > I got an used copy or Russ's Confidence Gap and read about 1/2 of it.

> > > Russ's views on self esteem and self acceptance is so similar to Albert

> > > Ellis's. So I started reading Ellis' books again. I've read almost all of

> > > his previous books and really enjoy it immensely. REBT is different than

> > > ACT but in so many ways it overlaps. Ellis wrote a lot about thinking about

> > > your thinking and thinking about your thinking about your thinking. This is

> > > similar to ACT observing self. Russ on a podcast talked about noticing he

> > > is in a conversation and noticing that he is noticing he is in

> > > conversation. Also, Ellis talked about accepting the sinner but not the sin

> > > - results in defusion.

> > >

> > > In my experience, for me, REBT has been the most helpful and so I return to