Re: NY Times article concerning a noted psychologist

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You will probably be pleased to hear that Schopenhauer was one of the first

prominent thinkers to speak out in defense of animal rights.

As for his views on women, I would give him a pass on that. As you say, he was

a product of his culture. Also, his views on women weren't all that

unreasonable, *if* you consider his limited sample set. Most women in his day

probably *did* appear to be physically and mentally inferior to men in terms of

their abilities. His mistake was to attribute the perceived inferiority to an

intrinsic biological feature, rather than to the effects of the systematic

oppression of women in terms of the denial of the resources and opportunities

afforded to men.

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Off-topic of course, but have you considered the fact that there was no birth control at the time, marriages were early, life expectancy, short, and most of their adult life women spent either being pregrant or breastfeeding? Except for the upper class, they were " just " pregnant.

 Not sure if it's just me, but I had experienced complete personality makeover during my both pregnanices/breastfeedings. I was what men would call " stupid " and what felt to me as wise. Career? Who cares. Software development? Who needs software. The company's website is down? Fine with me. And I only did it twice, so I know the difference.. Schopenhauer probably did not.

   

 

You will probably be pleased to hear that Schopenhauer was one of the first prominent thinkers to speak out in defense of animal rights.

As for his views on women, I would give him a pass on that. As you say, he was a product of his culture. Also, his views on women weren't all that unreasonable, *if* you consider his limited sample set. Most women in his day probably *did* appear to be physically and mentally inferior to men in terms of their abilities. His mistake was to attribute the perceived inferiority to an intrinsic biological feature, rather than to the effects of the systematic oppression of women in terms of the denial of the resources and opportunities afforded to men.

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Well said, I agree.

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Agreed! It is hard today to comprehend the culture of that time!

As for women appearing to be "stupid" during pregnancy, which is nature's wise way of making sure the young survive, not much appears more stupid than (some) men going through "male menopause!" Ever see an overweight, balding middle-aged man trying to look sexy in a sleek sports car with a blond bimbo at his side? Just joking, guys! I'm sure that's also due to nature's influence; "gotta make as many babies as I can before I can't do it anymore!"

Helena

To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:41:44 AMSubject: Re: Re: NY Times article concerning a noted psychologist

Off-topic of course, but have you considered the fact that there was no birth control at the time, marriages were early, life expectancy, short, and most of their adult life women spent either being pregrant or breastfeeding? Except for the upper class, they were "just" pregnant.

Not sure if it's just me, but I had experienced complete personality makeover during my both pregnanices/breastfeedings. I was what men would call "stupid" and what felt to me as wise. Career? Who cares. Software development? Who needs software. The company's website is down? Fine with me. And I only did it twice, so I know the difference.. Schopenhauer probably did not.

You will probably be pleased to hear that Schopenhauer was one of the first prominent thinkers to speak out in defense of animal rights.As for his views on women, I would give him a pass on that. As you say, he was a product of his culture. Also, his views on women weren't all that unreasonable, *if* you consider his limited sample set. Most women in his day probably *did* appear to be physically and mentally inferior to men in terms of their abilities. His mistake was to attribute the perceived inferiority to an intrinsic biological feature, rather than to the effects of the systematic oppression of women in terms of the denial of the resources and opportunities afforded to men. > > > > > > > > > > This is an article about noted Psychologist, Marsha Linehan, that > > I found > > > > to be interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/health/23lives.html?pagewanted=all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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I like Detlef's heartfelt posts too. As for people not always relpying to posts

sometimes I'm at a loss as to what to say. I had a number of posts in reply to

Detlef, but I couldn't get them right. I think sometimes people don't reply to a

post because they don't know what to say which may be useful.

Kv

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