Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Thank you Rita! I will look at these posts. na > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 That's great to hear. I look forward to hearing from more people who are trying this supplement. I am very happy it is helping your family so much. na > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Rita, Thanks so much for your reply. The more I learn about surfactants the more amazed I am, although I still feel like I have a ways to go! Chemistry is NOT my best subject. We are on our second day using this. All four of us (me, husband, 5yo NT daughter, 3yo spectrum son) are taking it - 4, 6, 3, and 2 drops 2x a day respectively. At the end of the first day, I definitely felt some die off, right where the esophagus meets the stomach (I normally have really bad acid reflux, so I know right where that is - probably candida). What it did is make me feel " clean, " like I'd eaten a bunch of carrots. Also very hungry. My son's appetite has picked up a TON. He's been eating SO much food and then asking for more. It's really a miracle because he usually eats very little. I am still nursing him, and he normally has a weak suck. Well, that has definitely changed and I am way sore. My son has been improving with Lutimax, but the surfactant seems to have started another jump in progress, maybe because he's eating, or maybe because it's killing something. He does have a cough that he didn't have before. But so far no diarrhea or fever. Is that the kind of die-off you've seen with the surfactant? Today at church he interacted with another child (a one-year-old) for the first time. They were on opposite sides of a glass door, matching up their hands, looking at each other, smiling, laughing, it was great. I'm still in shock. It doesn't seem real. Now getting myself to accept healing will be a whole new struggle. I'm sooooo glad you brought this to our attention, Rita!! Thank you! Bethany The other two family members haven't noticed anything yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 That's so awesome Bethany!! I can't wait to hear how he progresses over the next few weeks. So excited for you na > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 na, I was so tired last night I just gave you a quick answer....there is A LOT of contriversy on this one....even many of the high level docs & highly respect disagree on some of these items when it comes to the top level of water. I wanted to come back w/you & give my opionion (as researched & results as used in our health recoveries...especially my sons experience). So my opionion.... Bad Water: Anything w/chlorine, flouride (read the book The Flouride Deception " ) & toxic metals (personally for us that is all our tap water (ours here in WA/South Seattle is high in Arsinic & Lead has rx's, chlorine & flouride....it even has a chemical to force it back to a neutral Ph...rrrr...all in the name of public saftey). In this catagory, 6 years ago when I got 's 1st hair analysis & found he was very badly mineral derranged/fit into AC's mercury derrangement pattern only Arsinic was way high.....I was filtering my water w/a britta...then ND took him off at the time & put us on Water To Go purified water (we stayed on that till I learned more about water a year ago.....of note, part of my research included the mineral depletion that takes place w/the purified incl RO water....there is a reason the fridge brochures tell you not to use copper pipes (recommend plastic) if RO water is used as it eats up every mineral in its path...including your bodies...the water is so hungry for minerals. Our experience....I saw immediate improvements in several areas going to the Kangen microclustered, oxygenated, alkylinized Kangen....the final convencing stray for us was 's hair analysis a few months after starting the Kangen water came back for the 1st time no longer in a mineral derrangement pattern....his body was FINALLY getting the nutrients from the water that he so desparately needed. My Opionion Best Water : #1) Kangen #2) AmWater #3) Reminerized RO water (I highly recommend w/the Kangen & AmWater adding the KDF filter....their whole house is my top recommendation to hit your shower water too!!). Everything else falls in an OK catagory to me....it'll do in a pinch, but I've seen to much good out of the Kangen water to ever want to go back. IMHO..... Hope this further helps, Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Bethany, That brought me to tears....thanks so much for the share!!! My heart so warms to see kids break through to a level of healing. Keep us posted!!! Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Bethany, One other thing I thought to mention, the older kids & most adults will generally show signs slower...that's were immune panels come in...you mostly can't " feel " the immune systems doing better, but you can see it on improved immune related labs. I have talked w/a guy here in WA that is involved w/a lab....he's seen the change many, many times from the baseline pre-use of this product then 30-60 days after using this product....immune panels are clearly better... & that's all different kinds of " diseases " ) Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Rita, Would you clarify when you say AmWater - do you leave the AmWand for certain period of time in the bottle with RO water or do you wand the water for certain period of time? I have the AMWand but I have never used to improve the water quality with it, so I am curious to hear how you do it. Thanks a lot! Krassi > > na, > I was so tired last night I just gave you a quick answer....there is A LOT of contriversy on this one....even many of the high level docs & highly respect disagree on some of these items when it comes to the top level of water. I wanted to come back w/you & give my opionion (as researched & results as used in our health recoveries...especially my sons experience). > > So my opionion.... > > Bad Water: Anything w/chlorine, flouride (read the book The Flouride Deception " ) & toxic metals (personally for us that is all our tap water (ours here in WA/South Seattle is high in Arsinic & Lead has rx's, chlorine & flouride....it even has a chemical to force it back to a neutral Ph...rrrr...all in the name of public saftey). > In this catagory, 6 years ago when I got 's 1st hair analysis & found he was very badly mineral derranged/fit into AC's mercury derrangement pattern only Arsinic was way high.....I was filtering my water w/a britta...then ND took him off at the time & put us on Water To Go purified water (we stayed on that till I learned more about water a year ago.....of note, part of my research included the mineral depletion that takes place w/the purified incl RO water....there is a reason the fridge brochures tell you not to use copper pipes (recommend plastic) if RO water is used as it eats up every mineral in its path...including your bodies...the water is so hungry for minerals. Our experience....I saw immediate improvements in several areas going to the Kangen microclustered, oxygenated, alkylinized Kangen....the final convencing stray for us was 's hair analysis a few months after starting the Kangen water came back for the 1st time no longer in a mineral derrangement pattern....his body was FINALLY getting the nutrients from the water that he so desparately needed. > > My Opionion Best Water : #1) Kangen #2) AmWater #3) Reminerized RO water (I highly recommend w/the Kangen & AmWater adding the KDF filter....their whole house is my top recommendation to hit your shower water too!!). > > Everything else falls in an OK catagory to me....it'll do in a pinch, but I've seen to much good out of the Kangen water to ever want to go back. > IMHO..... > Hope this further helps, > Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Rita, My husband was glad to hear that information. But I have to tell you, I know I'm only on day four and it might be too early to be excited, but here's what's happened to just me: -I no longer get headaches every time I go upstairs or lift something. I haven't had a migraine either (usually get one every few days). -My heart palpitations, which I usually experience 5x a day, are a lot milder and it seems like there are fewer of them -I feel mentally much clearer. I still have some pretty bad joint pain that I'm hoping will go away at some point too. Bethany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. 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