Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Have you looked into PANDAS? Strep can cause kids to go bazerk! You should review the symptoms at www.pandasnetwork.org You may want to try high dose azithromycin. Subject: ValiumTo: "BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism" <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >, "TACA USA" <taca-usa >Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 2:30 PM My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 My son becomes more spaztic on valium.I hope you have better luck than me. I don't have good advice on how to replace it though. Tammy F. My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Oh no - I hope not for us. What exactly have you experienced Tammy?FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 14:59:41 -0500To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium My son becomes more spaztic on valium.I hope you have better luckthan me. I don't have good advice on how to replace it though. Tammy F. My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is puttinghim temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather thangiving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lymewith antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for soundingdesperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 You HAVE a reason to be desperate. Sorry l cant help you more, just want to say l will raise my prayer for your family right now and to remind you to wean your child out of this medication slowly, if you give it for several days, dont forget to wean him off of it. Removing it at once can create other problems you dont have. None of us wants to have a child on this kind of medication, but if there is nothing else to do, l just pray it is for the best and that it is temporary. My heart goes out to you. May l ask what do you think has been the culprit to the situation? Anything specific that might have unleashed this behavior? Perhaps some brainstorming could shed some light.From mom to mom, l send you Angels and the Peace that surpases all understanding.Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:30:59 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >; TACA USA<taca-usa >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Dear Isa - thank you for your words of comfort. I am hoping valium will be temporary. Lyme has led to this situation. I think maybe the kind of probiotics I am giving? Custom Probiotics D lactate - lactobacilli with bifido - baby scoop- may not be agreeable? He is not yet on ABX as we are still addressing gut issues and finishing up Diflucan. I have nothing for mopping up yeast die off as charcoal caused behaviors too. I could not find apple pectin binder in powder form. Capsule I found contains stearic acid so no good. Don't know what else to use for die-offs if that is the issue. Thank you for any advice out there. FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:50:57 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium You HAVE a reason to be desperate. Sorry l cant help you more, just want to say l will raise my prayer for your family right now and to remind you to wean your child out of this medication slowly, if you give it for several days, dont forget to wean him off of it. Removing it at once can create other problems you dont have. None of us wants to have a child on this kind of medication, but if there is nothing else to do, l just pray it is for the best and that it is temporary. My heart goes out to you. May l ask what do you think has been the culprit to the situation? Anything specific that might have unleashed this behavior? Perhaps some brainstorming could shed some light.From mom to mom, l send you Angels and the Peace that surpases all understanding.Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:30:59 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >; TACA USA<taca-usa >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Wouldn't valium be a better alternative to anti psychotic meds? FranselFrom: franselw@...Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 21:15:22 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: franselw@...Subject: Re: ValiumDear Isa - thank you for your words of comfort. I am hoping valium will be temporary. Lyme has led to this situation. I think maybe the kind of probiotics I am giving? Custom Probiotics D lactate - lactobacilli with bifido - baby scoop- may not be agreeable? He is not yet on ABX as we are still addressing gut issues and finishing up Diflucan. I have nothing for mopping up yeast die off as charcoal caused behaviors too. I could not find apple pectin binder in powder form. Capsule I found contains stearic acid so no good. Don't know what else to use for die-offs if that is the issue. Thank you for any advice out there. FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:50:57 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium You HAVE a reason to be desperate. Sorry l cant help you more, just want to say l will raise my prayer for your family right now and to remind you to wean your child out of this medication slowly, if you give it for several days, dont forget to wean him off of it. Removing it at once can create other problems you dont have. None of us wants to have a child on this kind of medication, but if there is nothing else to do, l just pray it is for the best and that it is temporary. My heart goes out to you. May l ask what do you think has been the culprit to the situation? Anything specific that might have unleashed this behavior? Perhaps some brainstorming could shed some light.From mom to mom, l send you Angels and the Peace that surpases all understanding.Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:30:59 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >; TACA USA<taca-usa >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 The problem with valium, as with all downers, is that your body revs up to compensate for the sedative effects. This means that when you stop taking the downer, you are now more up than before you took it. Downers are potentially lethal if they are taken in very large quantities because of the revving up the body does. To temporary take a downer is done in times of crisis, but it was originally used for situational crises, in that when the crisis is over, the patient no longer needs it. Since our children have chronic conditions where the crisis is long-term, downers are not normally used because they are very addicting, meaning the body physically changes. What I have seen is that after stopping the valium, they are temporarily revved up, but the effects wear off eventually. I do understand the horrendous stress that comes with aggression. For some, diet changes make a difference, but for others, it seems that nothing works. At my house, removing wheat, eating organic, and giving digestive aides worked for one, Bach remedies worked for another, and I actually have one that needs many things and still the aggression lingers, but is under control enough to stay in regular school. Some of the things to look into are mopping up extra ammonia, toxins, and oxalates, looking at thyroid issues (iodine supplementation), and anti-inflammatories, such as antioxidants. See what your practitioner says fits with your child's protocol. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. > Fransel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Fransel, When we get aggresion here bach flower rescue remedy and modifilan always work. They're also good for die off. Does your son seem to be in pain? Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Yes he seems to be having lots of sensory issues. Where pls can I get all this stuff. This may be a better alternative to valium. I have to get it ASAP!FranselFrom: w3m1@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:23:01 -0400 (EDT)To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium Fransel,When we get aggresion here bach flower rescue remedy and modifilan always work. They're also good for die off. Does your son seem to be in pain? Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I called the Vitamin Shoppe and they have the bach flower rescue remedy. I will just get the most expensive kind. How do you give it? Away from anything? I will google Modifilan source. Thanks for your suggestion. I feel I am racing with time to find a remedy. FranselFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 01:07:38 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium Yes he seems to be having lots of sensory issues. Where pls can I get all this stuff. This may be a better alternative to valium. I have to get it ASAP!FranselFrom: w3m1@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:23:01 -0400 (EDT)To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium Fransel,When we get aggresion here bach flower rescue remedy and modifilan always work. They're also good for die off. Does your son seem to be in pain? Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I forgot about the Rescue Remedy.My son got some relief with using it as needed.I went by the instructions on the bottle. I used the childrens Rescue Remedy only. Modifilan made my son worse.I only tried it one day for him. I used it also.I thought it was great until(about 2 weeks into it) I started getting toxins pulling from my tissues(I think that is what was happening),by using it.I think it was pulling too quickly so I got scared of it.My babesia flared like mad.    Tammy F.  I called the Vitamin Shoppe and they have the bach flower rescue remedy. I will just get the most expensive kind. How do you give it? Away from anything? I will google Modifilan source. Thanks for your suggestion. I feel I am racing with time to find a remedy. Fransel From: franselw@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 01:07:38 +0000 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium  Yes he seems to be having lots of sensory issues. Where pls can I get all this stuff. This may be a better alternative to valium. I have to get it ASAP! Fransel From: w3m1@... Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:23:01 -0400 (EDT) To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium  Fransel, When we get aggresion here bach flower rescue remedy and modifilan always work. They're also good for die off. Does your son seem to be in pain? Valium  My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 At my house, Bach flower remedies seemed to work the best by spraying or rubbing the drops on the back of the neck. It didn't seem to matter when to apply, but applying more often gave better results. I think you can apply it 10 times a day, but we just did it a couple of times a day. At first, we did get an increase of symptoms the first day or two, but later, even after stopping it, reinstating it worked quickly and without the increase in symptoms. Putting the drops in the mouth worked quickly, but the results didn't last. Putting the drops on the skin took longer, but seemed to get stronger, longer lasting results. Upon researching Bach remedies, I found that others reported the same results. But, I did not see reports of anyone putting them on the back of the neck. That I decided to do since I believe that area to be a root cause of symptoms for all with immune system problems, and it did work noticeably better. It also seemed to work better if I used them daily instead of just when needed. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > I called the Vitamin Shoppe and they have the bach flower rescue remedy. I will just get the most expensive kind. How do you give it? Away from anything? I will google Modifilan source. Thanks for your suggestion. I feel I am racing with time to find a remedy. > Fransel > > Valium > > > > My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. > Fransel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 My son seems to have the same reaction to all meds and naturals.He gets spaztic,mean and out of control.It is just a matter of these symptoms being at a 1 - 10 scale.Valium was about a 7 for my son. But if you try it and it actually helps calm him I would absolutely think that is better than an antiscicotic. I hear of many Lyme patints using valium. There are other positive properties to it.I just don't remember what. Does any one else know? Tammy F. Oh no - I hope not for us. What exactly have you experienced Tammy? Fransel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 14:59:41 -0500 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Valium My son becomes more spaztic on valium.I hope you have better luck than me. I don't have good advice on how to replace it though. Tammy F. My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Can I ask where you are getting your bach flower?TametFransel,When we get aggresion here bach flower rescue remedy and modifilan always work. They're also good for die off. Does your son seem to be in pain? Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Today is full moon, m y son had severe rages yesterday and today... valium made my son go hyper/crazy too, as did atavan, the antianxiety meds dont work for my son... still havent solved this rage issue yet, did zithromax and now augmentin, no luck... deborah > > Oh no - I hope not for us. What exactly have you experienced Tammy? > Fransel > > Re: Valium > > My son becomes more spaztic on valium.I hope you have better luck than > me. I don't have good advice on how to replace it though. > Tammy F. > > > > My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily > > on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds > > until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? > > Sorry for sounding desperate. > > Fransel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I get it from vitacost.com. Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 It was the new moon, not the full moon. Hyperness, inability to sleep, rage, crazy with the full moon is usually related to parasites. I would try with artemisiae and cloves. > > > > Oh no - I hope not for us. What exactly have you experienced Tammy? > > Fransel > > > > Re: Valium > > > > My son becomes more spaztic on valium.I hope you have better luck than > > me. I don't have good advice on how to replace it though. > > Tammy F. > > > > > > My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily > > > on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds > > > until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? > > > Sorry for sounding desperate. > > > Fransel > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hi Fransel,I am not sure if others already mentioned this: chlorella tablets 30 minutes before meal + butyrate after meal can be a good combo for mopping, binding biotoxins. Increasing fiber intake can help too. I use Whole Fiber Fusion made by Vital Nutrients. The product is fairly clean and is independently tested for heavy metals, solvent residue, herbicide and pesticide residue, bacteria, yeast and mold counts, etc.LiminDear Isa - thank you for your words of comfort. I am hoping valium will be temporary. Lyme has led to this situation. I think maybe the kind of probiotics I am giving? Custom Probiotics D lactate - lactobacilli with bifido - baby scoop- may not be agreeable? He is not yet on ABX as we are still addressing gut issues and finishing up Diflucan. I have nothing for mopping up yeast die off as charcoal caused behaviors too. I could not find apple pectin binder in powder form. Capsule I found contains stearic acid so no good. Don't know what else to use for die-offs if that is the issue. Thank you for any advice out there.FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:50:57 +0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: ValiumYou HAVE a reason to be desperate. Sorry l cant help you more, just want to say l will raise my prayer for your family right now and to remind you to wean your child out of this medication slowly, if you give it for several days, dont forget to wean him off of it. Removing it at once can create other problems you dont have. None of us wants to have a child on this kind of medication, but if there is nothing else to do, l just pray it is for the best and that it is temporary. My heart goes out to you. May l ask what do you think has been the culprit to the situation? Anything specific that might have unleashed this behavior? Perhaps some brainstorming could shed some light.From mom to mom, l send you Angels and the Peace that surpases all understanding.IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:30:59 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >; TACA USA<taca-usa >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Valium My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate.Fransel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Limin, What kind of butyrate do you like to use? What dose? Also, do the chlorella and butyrate work together in some way? Thanks, Bethany > > > > > > > Dear Isa - thank you for your words of comfort. I am hoping valium will be temporary. Lyme has led to this situation. I think maybe the kind of probiotics I am giving? Custom Probiotics D lactate - lactobacilli with bifido - baby scoop- may not be agreeable? He is not yet on ABX as we are still addressing gut issues and finishing up Diflucan. I have nothing for mopping up yeast die off as charcoal caused behaviors too. I could not find apple pectin binder in powder form. Capsule I found contains stearic acid so no good. Don't know what else to use for die-offs if that is the issue. Thank you for any advice out there. > > Fransel > > > > From: isaguzmandiaz2@... > > Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:50:57 +0000 > > To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Subject: Re: Valium > > > > You HAVE a reason to be desperate. Sorry l cant help you more, just want to say l will raise my prayer for your family right now and to remind you to wean your child out of this medication slowly, if you give it for several days, dont forget to wean him off of it. Removing it at once can create other problems you dont have. None of us wants to have a child on this kind of medication, but if there is nothing else to do, l just pray it is for the best and that it is temporary. My heart goes out to you. May l ask what do you think has been the culprit to the situation? Anything specific that might have unleashed this behavior? Perhaps some brainstorming could shed some light. > > From mom to mom, l send you Angels and the Peace that surpases all understanding. > > Isa > > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > > > > From: franselw@... > > Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:30:59 +0000 > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism@yahoogro\ ups.com>; TACA USA<taca-usa > > > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Subject: Valium > > > > > > My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. > > Fransel > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Bethany, I use Bodybio brand of butyrate. Butyrate is a short chain fatty acid and a detoxifier of ammonia and neurotoxins. It breaks down lipid toxins which interfere with cell metabolism. Bodybio has several different " flavors " to choose from. I use Cal-Mag Butyrate. http://www.bodybio.com/storecategory97.aspx The link below lists dosage information recommended by Kane, PhD. http://howto.whnlive.com/PCDetox/ Chlorella is not able to break down lipid toxins, but can absorb, mop up the toxins in the gut. Some NDs use chlorella + butyrate to replace chloestyramine, for which binding biotoxins especially mold toxins is its well known off-label use. hope this helps. Limin > Limin, > > What kind of butyrate do you like to use? What dose? > > Also, do the chlorella and butyrate work together in some way? > > Thanks, > > Bethany > > >> >>> >>> >>> Dear Isa - thank you for your words of comfort. I am hoping valium will be temporary. Lyme has led to this situation. I think maybe the kind of probiotics I am giving? Custom Probiotics D lactate - lactobacilli with bifido - baby scoop- may not be agreeable? He is not yet on ABX as we are still addressing gut issues and finishing up Diflucan. I have nothing for mopping up yeast die off as charcoal caused behaviors too. I could not find apple pectin binder in powder form. Capsule I found contains stearic acid so no good. Don't know what else to use for die-offs if that is the issue. Thank you for any advice out there. >>> Fransel >>> >>> From: isaguzmandiaz2@... >>> Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:50:57 +0000 >>> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > >>> ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >>> Subject: Re: Valium >>> >>> You HAVE a reason to be desperate. Sorry l cant help you more, just want to say l will raise my prayer for your family right now and to remind you to wean your child out of this medication slowly, if you give it for several days, dont forget to wean him off of it. Removing it at once can create other problems you dont have. None of us wants to have a child on this kind of medication, but if there is nothing else to do, l just pray it is for the best and that it is temporary. My heart goes out to you. May l ask what do you think has been the culprit to the situation? Anything specific that might have unleashed this behavior? Perhaps some brainstorming could shed some light. >>> From mom to mom, l send you Angels and the Peace that surpases all understanding. >>> Isa >>> >>> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel >>> >>> From: franselw@... >>> Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:30:59 +0000 >>> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism@yahoogro\ ups.com>; TACA USA<taca-usa > >>> ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >>> Subject: Valium >>> >>> >>> My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. >>> Fransel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Thanks, that is a VERY interesting website! > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Isa - thank you for your words of comfort. I am hoping valium will be temporary. Lyme has led to this situation. I think maybe the kind of probiotics I am giving? Custom Probiotics D lactate - lactobacilli with bifido - baby scoop- may not be agreeable? He is not yet on ABX as we are still addressing gut issues and finishing up Diflucan. I have nothing for mopping up yeast die off as charcoal caused behaviors too. I could not find apple pectin binder in powder form. Capsule I found contains stearic acid so no good. Don't know what else to use for die-offs if that is the issue. Thank you for any advice out there. > >>> Fransel > >>> > >>> From: isaguzmandiaz2@ > >>> Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > >>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:50:57 +0000 > >>> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > >>> ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > >>> Subject: Re: Valium > >>> > >>> You HAVE a reason to be desperate. Sorry l cant help you more, just want to say l will raise my prayer for your family right now and to remind you to wean your child out of this medication slowly, if you give it for several days, dont forget to wean him off of it. Removing it at once can create other problems you dont have. None of us wants to have a child on this kind of medication, but if there is nothing else to do, l just pray it is for the best and that it is temporary. My heart goes out to you. May l ask what do you think has been the culprit to the situation? Anything specific that might have unleashed this behavior? Perhaps some brainstorming could shed some light. > >>> From mom to mom, l send you Angels and the Peace that surpases all understanding. > >>> Isa > >>> > >>> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel > >>> > >>> From: franselw@ > >>> Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > >>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:30:59 +0000 > >>> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism@yahoogro\ ups.com>; TACA USA<taca-usa > > >>> ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > >>> Subject: Valium > >>> > >>> > >>> My son is extremely violent today - DAN doc is putting him temporarily on valium 5mg up to 2x daily rather than giving anti psychotic meds until we are able to treat lyme with antibiotics. Any thoughts anyone? Sorry for sounding desperate. > >>> Fransel > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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