Re: Need your help... @ Deflet:-)

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I wrote on a newspaper site recently and said that if God was really

clever he would have added a chapter in at the end of the Bible with an

introduction to quantum physics, calculus, relativity, and how our solar

system works in which the planets orbit the Sun, etc. Now that would

have would have thrown a spanner in the works for us athiests as well as

comfound my hero Dawkins.

Kv

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> > Hi deflet,

> > your post came while i was trying to reply back to Helena and Randy,

so i wanna make this quick, ore sle i will never get to finishing up my

repy to them and posting it, as i amm always at the mercy of my 2

rascals (my boyz;) who don't give me much time to myself, but

alhamdulillah, kids r still a blessing from allah (arabic word for

god:-)

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> > I havta confess, while i get some part of your email, i don't get

all of it.

> > Yes the essence of ACT is just what to mentioned in ur 2nd

paragraph.

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> > <<<My reflections on my life

> > experience have led me to see that some, though not all, of the pain

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> > have experienced can be directly traced to the insane and stupid

> > religious beliefs (in our case, Catholic) of my parents.>>>

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> > i was raised by catholic Nuns, as all of my life in my country, i

spend in a catholic all girl convent. Sometimes it is not necessarily

the 'st*p*d religious beliefs of the religion', but perhaps 'the

inaacurate beliefs of the people' who practise it, that creates all the

problems. And this is coming from a person (myself) who is very devouted

to , now what is believed as ' the most hated religion' in the US and

perhaps the world. Hated becoz , it's the most misunderstood, IN MY

EYES:-) I hold the same beliefs about Islam, as i hold about any other

religion, Christinity, Judism, Hinduism etc. etc. That in essence every

religion preaches love, compassion, and co-existence with one another.

While i could be wrong in others eyes, but i hold this belief firmly and

nothing would change this:-). The only people, shown in the media, who

represnt my religion, are sadly the ones who have completely

misreprsented it. Who have not learnt and grasped the message from the

holy scripture how they were supposed to, who took exmaples of the the

prophets , sahabas, and rigous people of that time, completely out of

context to satify their own desires. Religion is not easy to understand.

It is a life long proceess, and definately not something that can be

defined by the actions of one, or a huge group of people who practise it

and claim to be practising it in the 'right way'.

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> > As for myself i always mention religion, not for anyother reason but

perhaps becoz it is a huge part of my life:-) i apologize if it offends

anyone. Just like every single time i mention my therapist joann

everytime i post something about ACT here...or perhaps everytime i

mention coping skills to anyone inclduing my community, i mention

ACT.:-). Or anytime i mention people who inspire me i mentioned- Prophet

Muhammed (pbuh), Dr. M Joann , , Russ &

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> > No i don't think of anything as a harsh comment:-) Jazakallah khair

for sharing your views, and i hope u do not mind me sharing mine:-)

> > i always see and connect with people, not from what cuture,

community, religion , they come from, but from how i can connect with

them, as one human being to another. I have every sorta freinds i love

and whose friendship i value dearly, from muslims, jews, christains,

athiests, hindus etc. etc...and people who pratice all kinds of

lifestyles, from devout rleigious to even 1 freind i have who;s in the

porn industry. What religon they partice and what lifestyle they have is

not my business as that is a personal preference.

> > i like to connect with people based on what we have in common as

humans rather than what differences we may have.

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> > if i have infact misunderstood ur post i do apologize.

> > take care deflet

> > wasalaam:-)

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> > -K Designs.

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> > " " Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their

shoes.

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> > That way, when you criticize them, you're already a mile away AND

you have their

> > shoes. "

> > ~ a very pious intellectual

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> > To: ACT_for_the_Public

> > From: michieux@

> > Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:20:27 +0000

> > Subject: Re: Need your help... @

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> > I am wondering why you seem to emphasize your beliefs here.

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> > Seems to me the essence of ACT, despite its mindfulness aspect being

compared to aspects of Buddhism, is essentially based in the reality of

our experience, and how we tend to avoid that reality, thus aggravating

our suffering.

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> > My reflections on my life experience have led me to see that some,

though not all, of the pain I have experienced can be directly traced to

the insane and stupid religious beliefs (in our case, Catholic) of my

parents.

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> > The above may appear as a harsh condemnation of something many hold

sacred, but I see that very " holding sacred " of unverifiable beliefs as

part of the problem, and not as part of the resolution of our suffering.

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> > Regards,

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> > Detlef

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