Re: Advice for the anxious plane traveler/ ACT Acceptance

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I used to think acceptance was same as resigning or tolerating

uncontrollability. These clarifications (e.g. # 14819) you have provided over

the years Steve, they are just so incredibly helpful toward my evolving sense of

ACT acceptance.

I used to think the Serenity Prayer (which is used often when explaining what

ACT is about) was asking me to parse out, as in some sort of apriori

intellectual exercise, what can and can't be controlled and then just learn to

put up or tolerate the stuff I can't because I'm stuck with it, anyway. Kind of

like, " It's the reasonable thing to do, so just learn to accept it already, be a

grown up and get real. Life sucks sometimes, so just accept it (put up with the

crap). "

So I really was not ever a huge fan of acceptance as I came to know it from

popular culture and other sources. It absolutely felt like no choice, escape is

impossible..not unlike the learned helplessness mentioned a few weeks ago.

I am still sitting with this and now willing to say I am now clueless as to what

acceptance is (as in a good way). Although in my quiet moments I see it has a

lot to do with love, and have glimpses of it having something to do with

allowing that love to do it's thing. Something about willingness to saying yes

to all of it, as it is so for me just now, something about embracing not only

select parts but my experience in it's entirety.

Remaining in the question, allowing life to teach me..

theresa

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> > > > > > > > The Happiness Trap suggests that EXPANSION/ACCEPTANCE is the

> > ACT core process to use for panic attacks. See chapter 11, The Struggle

> > Switch, especially the last 5 paragraphs and chapter 20, If You're

> > Breathing, You're Alive. I would try " Notice Five Things " as well, in

> > chapter 17, page 129 in my version.

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> > > > > > > > > To: ACT_for_the_Public

> > > > > > > > > From: vcferrara@

> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:52:35 +0000

> > > > > > > > > Subject: Advice for the anxious plane

> > traveler

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> > > > > > > > > Taking a flight tomorrow, which I have only done once since I

> > had a panic attack on one right after my father passed away. Well, I had to

> > get off the plane before it took off because I was so scared of having a

> > panic attack on the plane, and being trapped. This was the second panic

> > attack I had that week, with the first being the first one ever. Which was

> > initiated from my father dying unexpectedly from a heart condition/attack,

> > and me becoming super focused and aware of my heart, and it snowballed.

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> > > > > > > > > I took a flight 5 years later, and experienced much

> > anticipatory anxiety, but the once I got on, the flight was a breeze. I

> > haven't done it since, been another 5 years, so there is a lot of

> > anticipatory anxiety. Most of it, again, being, not wanting to fear, get

> > anxious, etc...

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> > > > > > > > > Any advice would be welcome

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> > > > > > > > > With love,

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[Guest guest]

Also see acceptance is not about no choice or all choice either.

Whether I choose what is so or not, it's still what's so! So moving with what's

so, with a Yes embrace is a lot like getting out of my way. But that's also

embracing what i might be able to change..in fact, if I'm honest, some of the

hardest things for me to say Yes to and Accept have been the things i might

change, able to change.

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> > > > > > > > > The Happiness Trap suggests that EXPANSION/ACCEPTANCE is the

> > > ACT core process to use for panic attacks. See chapter 11, The Struggle

> > > Switch, especially the last 5 paragraphs and chapter 20, If You're

> > > Breathing, You're Alive. I would try " Notice Five Things " as well, in

> > > chapter 17, page 129 in my version.

> > > > > > > > > Bill

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> > > > > > > > > > To: ACT_for_the_Public

> > > > > > > > > > From: vcferrara@

> > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:52:35 +0000

> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Advice for the anxious plane

> > > traveler

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> > > > > > > > > > Taking a flight tomorrow, which I have only done once since

I

> > > had a panic attack on one right after my father passed away. Well, I had

to

> > > get off the plane before it took off because I was so scared of having a

> > > panic attack on the plane, and being trapped. This was the second panic

> > > attack I had that week, with the first being the first one ever. Which was

> > > initiated from my father dying unexpectedly from a heart condition/attack,

> > > and me becoming super focused and aware of my heart, and it snowballed.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I took a flight 5 years later, and experienced much

> > > anticipatory anxiety, but the once I got on, the flight was a breeze. I

> > > haven't done it since, been another 5 years, so there is a lot of

> > > anticipatory anxiety. Most of it, again, being, not wanting to fear, get

> > > anxious, etc...

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> > > > > > > > > > Any advice would be welcome

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> > > > > > > > > > With love,

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