Re: Presence vs. Observing @ bruce:-)

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ur post is veeeeery interesting bruce and got into deep thinking;)

<<<With me, I've got a lot of observing going on but very

little engaged presence.>>>

This happned to me last thursday. when i was trying too hard to focus on

'observing' so to distract myself from the trembling jaw. that sorta observing

got me out of the present moment.

<<I would like to lose myself in activities and fully feel my emotions. >>>>

bruce i remmeber u asking about ur bike riding, and u not getting what u wanted

out of it, hence casuign frustration. have u tried this way russ harris mentions

in his book. when he hasta do a chore which he is aboslutely not looking forward

to, washing his dog. connect with the acitivty in a diff. way. like randy says

in his post too about the record player metaphor. notice the sounds u hear when

i peddle, notice ur feet/legs as they move, notice ur hands and how u hold

on.....etc.etc. somtimes u need to be that present and engage in activities

with no expetations at all...

<<<<It seems like the latter makes me kind of a spectator of my life rather than

a participant >>>>

what u r saying makes total sense, but i have no idea how it often wroks for me

when i am the observer self and am able to be present too...the times it doesn't

i havta dig deep and catch that 1 thought/emotion/'desire' i am still fused too

that is preventing me from being present...

wasalaam:-)