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My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two: one

that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with him.

The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is now

greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things, stomp,

threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an

aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your

energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help.

Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no

wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger.

Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger

root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via

several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of

mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on

several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that

they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at

the root of her inflammation.

I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such to

see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if

often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet,

inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial

infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and

probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working

immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there

are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have

had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were.

This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if

there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools

always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated

and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic

smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their

behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the

whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know

that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may

never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they

need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind

that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to

wax and wane while it declines.

Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has

l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha

ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the

answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your

practitioners about them.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

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When my son gets aggressive, he need flagyl. This usually fixes it pretty

quick. But, he also needs diflucan when taking flagyl otherwise he gets

completely yeasty.

Caryn

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> My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two:

one that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with

him. The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is

now greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things,

stomp, threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an

aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your

energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help.

Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no

wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger.

Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger

root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via

several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of

mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on

several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that

they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at

the root of her inflammation.

>

> I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such to

see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if

often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet,

inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial

infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and

probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working

immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there

are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have

had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were.

This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if

there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools

always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated

and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic

smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their

behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the

whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know

that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may

never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they

need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind

that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to

wax and wane while it declines.

>

> Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has

l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha

ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the

answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your

practitioners about them.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

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Thanks for sharing this Caryn. I know my eldest doesn't respond to antibiotics

- probably due to yeast flaring - as you have stated we also have to pair it

with prescription antifungals. Confusing. If antibiotics made her behaviour

better I would suspect something like PANDAS, clostridia etc might be an

issue... Whenever we do a course of antibiotics we are always careful to pair

with antifungals, copious probiotics, and lots of die off absorbers.

Kim

> >

> > My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two:

one that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with

him. The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is

now greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things,

stomp, threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an

aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your

energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help.

Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no

wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger.

Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger

root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via

several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of

mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on

several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that

they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at

the root of her inflammation.

> >

> > I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such

to see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if

often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet,

inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial

infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and

probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working

immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there

are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have

had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were.

This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if

there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools

always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated

and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic

smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their

behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the

whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know

that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may

never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they

need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind

that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to

wax and wane while it declines.

> >

> > Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has

l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha

ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the

answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your

practitioners about them.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

>

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Hi Heidi;

Thanks for acknowledging the immense challenges of raising an aggressive child.

And thanks too for sharing your knowledge of what is working for your children.

My daughter's diet can't be any cleaner/healthier. Organic, free range, super

restrictive, always has been, with additional modifications for allergens.

We do give her digestive enzymes with each meal - presently one capsule of

Enzymedica Spectrum Digest.

How much curcumin and ginger root to you give your child? Do you give it at

meal time or prior to? Is there any die-off with curcumin?

We do use melatonin - 9 mg at bedtime to help her sleep... didn't know melatonin

is also helpful with inflammation. How much do you use and how many times per

day?

No, we are not doing enough treatment for ANYTHING right now. Trying to put out

the fire and resorting to calming supps before I start back at treating chronic

bacterial/fungal/viral issues. As I mentioned in another post, I am totally

burnt out - beyond burnt out.

Kim

>

> My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two:

one that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with

him. The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is

now greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things,

stomp, threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an

aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your

energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help.

Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no

wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger.

Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger

root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via

several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of

mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on

several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that

they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at

the root of her inflammation.

>

> I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such to

see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if

often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet,

inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial

infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and

probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working

immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there

are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have

had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were.

This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if

there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools

always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated

and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic

smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their

behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the

whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know

that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may

never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they

need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind

that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to

wax and wane while it declines.

>

> Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has

l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha

ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the

answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your

practitioners about them.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

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My kids can definitely not make it without at least turmeric. We

got a small amount of die-off from turmeric and ginger root the

first few days. We worked up to 1 to 4 capsules of turmeric twice a

day. Too small amount was not noticed. Ginger root, I never did

more than one pill twice a day. It just seemed strong. For my

kids, most could only do 1/2 capsule a day because of it's

strength. It tends to really thin the blood. A lot of things say

they thin the blood, but we never noticed anything doing that,

except for ginger root. I would focus on mopping up with alginates

or things for ammonia and anti-inflammatory types of things and also

things to help with liver and digestion. Then they can handle the

daily toxins, the toxins from the pathogen load and the extra dead

pathogens that you will be creating. It's the inflammation and

toxins that cause they symptoms. The pathogens do cause the

inflammation and toxins, though.

We only use Mellatonin at night, and just 1 to 3mg. If they wake up

too early or dream too much, we lower the dose. If there is a

headache or bad die-off, we raise the dose.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

How much curcumin and ginger root to you give your child? Do you

give it at meal time or prior to? Is there any die-off with

curcumin?

We do use melatonin - 9 mg at bedtime to help her sleep... didn't

know melatonin is also helpful with inflammation. How much do you

use and how many times per day?

No, we are not doing enough treatment for ANYTHING right now. Trying

to put out the fire and resorting to calming supps before I start

back at treating chronic bacterial/fungal/

viral issues. As I mentioned in

another post, I am totally burnt out - beyond burnt out.

Kim

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