Guest guest Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two: one that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with him. The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is now greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things, stomp, threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help. Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger. Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at the root of her inflammation. I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such to see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet, inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were. This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to wax and wane while it declines. Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your practitioners about them. Love and prayers, Heidi N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 When my son gets aggressive, he need flagyl. This usually fixes it pretty quick. But, he also needs diflucan when taking flagyl otherwise he gets completely yeasty. Caryn > > My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two: one that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with him. The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is now greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things, stomp, threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help. Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger. Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at the root of her inflammation. > > I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such to see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet, inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were. This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to wax and wane while it declines. > > Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your practitioners about them. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Thanks for sharing this Caryn. I know my eldest doesn't respond to antibiotics - probably due to yeast flaring - as you have stated we also have to pair it with prescription antifungals. Confusing. If antibiotics made her behaviour better I would suspect something like PANDAS, clostridia etc might be an issue... Whenever we do a course of antibiotics we are always careful to pair with antifungals, copious probiotics, and lots of die off absorbers. Kim > > > > My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two: one that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with him. The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is now greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things, stomp, threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help. Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger. Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at the root of her inflammation. > > > > I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such to see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet, inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were. This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to wax and wane while it declines. > > > > Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your practitioners about them. > > > > Love and prayers, > > > > Heidi N > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hi Heidi; Thanks for acknowledging the immense challenges of raising an aggressive child. And thanks too for sharing your knowledge of what is working for your children. My daughter's diet can't be any cleaner/healthier. Organic, free range, super restrictive, always has been, with additional modifications for allergens. We do give her digestive enzymes with each meal - presently one capsule of Enzymedica Spectrum Digest. How much curcumin and ginger root to you give your child? Do you give it at meal time or prior to? Is there any die-off with curcumin? We do use melatonin - 9 mg at bedtime to help her sleep... didn't know melatonin is also helpful with inflammation. How much do you use and how many times per day? No, we are not doing enough treatment for ANYTHING right now. Trying to put out the fire and resorting to calming supps before I start back at treating chronic bacterial/fungal/viral issues. As I mentioned in another post, I am totally burnt out - beyond burnt out. Kim > > My heart really goes out to parents with aggressive children. I have two: one that no longer is this way, but I used to have to walk on eggshells with him. The other one who used to be too aggressive to go into detail about, is now greatly improved -- can do regular school, but will still throw things, stomp, threaten, etc. First, let me emphasize and say that the challenge of an aggressive child is so great that it's just unbelievable. It takes ALL your energy, physically and emotionally. That said I must offer some kind of help. Diet and inflammation seem to be at the root. Mine must eat organic, plus no wheat and one can't even eat flours nor potatoes without it triggering anger. Digestive aids help immensely. Digestive enzymes, turmeric/curcumin and ginger root seemed to be the most help. The inflammation is treated daily and via several methods. Turmeric, Modifilan and Mellatonin are mostly used. One of mine also needs Goji. She responds to iodine somewhat. She must always stay on several things to help her body work well. Her practitioners informed me that they think she has several herpes-type viruses (Epstein-Barr and chicken pox) at the root of her inflammation. > > I feel it's definitely worth a try to list and describe treatments and such to see what information we can share about it. A list of current supplements if often helpful. Usually, I see that people don't do enough for diet, inflammation and pathogens. Usually, there is nothing for chronic bacterial infections, such as Bartonella and Strep. Bartonella is very easy to get and probably one will always have it, just low levels of it with a properly working immune system. Try sharing current diet and supplements. Try to ponder if there are foods they might be getting from school or sitters setting them off. I have had the school and sitters both not follow the diet and tell me that they were. This really was a big problem. So, you may need to really work hard to tell if there are diet infractions. Pay attention to patterns. For my kids, schools always triggered more symptoms. At times, when they regressed, I investigated and learned they were getting the wrong foods at school, around strong toxic smells, and even at times, treated in a manner at school that encouraged their behaviors. So, there is a lot to learn and do. I also suggest treating the whole person approach, not so much directly per symptoms. For example, know that diet will effect aggression, and a certain thing to rid aggression may never be found. It will probably take a group of things to rid it, because they need to be healthy. So, it's more a return to health thing. Also, keep in mind that aggression may go away in cycles. In that it may decline, but continue to wax and wane while it declines. > > Also, keep in mind that ammonia is a real problem for many. Watermelon has l-citruline in it, and also you can buy it in capsules as well as alpha ketaglutauric acid for ammonia, but it's not like it always works or is the answer. They may help a lot though. Keep these ideas in mind and speak to your practitioners about them. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 My kids can definitely not make it without at least turmeric. We got a small amount of die-off from turmeric and ginger root the first few days. We worked up to 1 to 4 capsules of turmeric twice a day. Too small amount was not noticed. Ginger root, I never did more than one pill twice a day. It just seemed strong. For my kids, most could only do 1/2 capsule a day because of it's strength. It tends to really thin the blood. A lot of things say they thin the blood, but we never noticed anything doing that, except for ginger root. I would focus on mopping up with alginates or things for ammonia and anti-inflammatory types of things and also things to help with liver and digestion. Then they can handle the daily toxins, the toxins from the pathogen load and the extra dead pathogens that you will be creating. It's the inflammation and toxins that cause they symptoms. The pathogens do cause the inflammation and toxins, though. We only use Mellatonin at night, and just 1 to 3mg. If they wake up too early or dream too much, we lower the dose. If there is a headache or bad die-off, we raise the dose. Love and prayers, Heidi N How much curcumin and ginger root to you give your child? Do you give it at meal time or prior to? Is there any die-off with curcumin? We do use melatonin - 9 mg at bedtime to help her sleep... didn't know melatonin is also helpful with inflammation. How much do you use and how many times per day? No, we are not doing enough treatment for ANYTHING right now. Trying to put out the fire and resorting to calming supps before I start back at treating chronic bacterial/fungal/ viral issues. As I mentioned in another post, I am totally burnt out - beyond burnt out. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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