Melatonin overdose = 9-10 mg. per NP Re: Re: Aggression

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Kim,

The list is very very long in terms of supplements and has evolved over the last

couple of years. Again, I am not a doc. Please talk to your doc about this

stuff. Some of the other calming supps we have used and continue to use in

addition to melatonin, have been L-Tryptophan, L-Theanine, and inositol. Then

there are many which we have used to help the detox pathways. While the

later does not directly relate to calming, it indirectly relates to calming

because if your child is toxic, she is going to be anxious and if she is anxious

she will likely have abberant behaviors if she has ASD. (Toxicity contributes

to anxiety) Then there are others we use to help with inflammation, and

others to help with nutritional deficiencies. These areas (deficiencies and

inflammation) also contribute to abberant behavior. If it all sounds like a

tangled web, it is because it is --- it is very complex. And don't forget about

diet which is the foundation of all of this. Have you done sufficient food

elimination, i.e. taken out offending foods which will cause the anxiety and the

abberant behavior in so many ASD kids? That should be the first step before

adding the supplements. What worked for us was SCD with a GAPS flair. For some

reason (which is explained in the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle) grains can

really set some people off. SCD has been a life-saver for my daughter.

Hope this helps.

Sara

> > > >

> > > > I was told by a nurse practitioner at the University that a 9-10 mg.

dose of

> > > > melatonin begins to affect the body as a type of " chemotherapy, " her

word, and

> > > > she indicated going this high was dangerous.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: " fight4thekids@ " <fight4thekids@>

> > > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> > > > Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 4:57:18 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: Aggression

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My kids can definitely not make it without at least turmeric. We

got a

> > > > small amount of die-off from turmeric and ginger root the first few

days.

> > > > We worked up to 1 to 4 capsules of turmeric twice a day. Too small

amount

> > > > was not noticed. Ginger root, I never did more than one pill twice

a day.

> > > > It just seemed strong. For my kids, most could only do 1/2 capsule

a day

> > > > because of it's strength. It tends to really thin the blood. A lot

of

> > > > things say they thin the blood, but we never noticed anything doing

that,

> > > > except for ginger root. I would focus on mopping up with alginates

or

> > > > things for ammonia and anti-inflammatory types of things and also

things to

> > > > help with liver and digestion. Then they can handle the daily

toxins, the

> > > > toxins from the pathogen load and the extra dead pathogens that you

will be

> > > > creating. It's the inflammation and toxins that cause they

symptoms. The

> > > > pathogens do cause the inflammation and toxins, though.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > We only use Mellatonin at night, and just 1 to 3mg. If they wake up

too

> > > > early or dream too much, we lower the dose. If there is a headache

or bad

> > > > die-off, we raise the dose.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Love and prayers,

> > > >

> > > > Heidi N

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > How much curcumin and ginger root to you give your child? Do you

give it at

> > > > meal time or prior to? Is there any die-off with curcumin?

> > > > We do use melatonin - 9 mg at bedtime to help her sleep... didn't

know

> > > > melatonin is also helpful with inflammation. How much do you use and

how

> > > > many times per day?

> > > >

> > > > No, we are not doing enough treatment for ANYTHING right now. Trying

to put

> > > > out the fire and resorting to calming supps before I start back at

treating

> > > > chronic bacterial/fungal/

> > > >

> > > > viral issues. As I mentioned in another post, I am totally burnt

out -

> > > > beyond burnt out.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kim

> > > >

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