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Death: I'm not too keen about it myself. I reckon it is a very bad thing indeed.

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> > > Hi deflet,

> > > your post came while i was trying to reply back to Helena and Randy,

> so i wanna make this quick, ore sle i will never get to finishing up my

> repy to them and posting it, as i amm always at the mercy of my 2

> rascals (my boyz;) who don't give me much time to myself, but

> alhamdulillah, kids r still a blessing from allah (arabic word for

> god:-)

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> > > I havta confess, while i get some part of your email, i don't get

> all of it.

> > > Yes the essence of ACT is just what to mentioned in ur 2nd

> paragraph.

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> > > <<<My reflections on my life

> > > experience have led me to see that some, though not all, of the pain

> I

> > > have experienced can be directly traced to the insane and stupid

> > > religious beliefs (in our case, Catholic) of my parents.>>>

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> > > i was raised by catholic Nuns, as all of my life in my country, i

> spend in a catholic all girl convent. Sometimes it is not necessarily

> the 'st*p*d religious beliefs of the religion', but perhaps 'the

> inaacurate beliefs of the people' who practise it, that creates all the

> problems. And this is coming from a person (myself) who is very devouted

> to , now what is believed as ' the most hated religion' in the US and

> perhaps the world. Hated becoz , it's the most misunderstood, IN MY

> EYES:-) I hold the same beliefs about Islam, as i hold about any other

> religion, Christinity, Judism, Hinduism etc. etc. That in essence every

> religion preaches love, compassion, and co-existence with one another.

> While i could be wrong in others eyes, but i hold this belief firmly and

> nothing would change this:-). The only people, shown in the media, who

> represnt my religion, are sadly the ones who have completely

> misreprsented it. Who have not learnt and grasped the message from the

> holy scripture how they were supposed to, who took exmaples of the the

> prophets , sahabas, and rigous people of that time, completely out of

> context to satify their own desires. Religion is not easy to understand.

> It is a life long proceess, and definately not something that can be

> defined by the actions of one, or a huge group of people who practise it

> and claim to be practising it in the 'right way'.

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> > > As for myself i always mention religion, not for anyother reason but

> perhaps becoz it is a huge part of my life:-) i apologize if it offends

> anyone. Just like every single time i mention my therapist joann

> everytime i post something about ACT here...or perhaps everytime i

> mention coping skills to anyone inclduing my community, i mention

> ACT.:-). Or anytime i mention people who inspire me i mentioned- Prophet

> Muhammed (pbuh), Dr. M Joann , , Russ &

> .

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> > > No i don't think of anything as a harsh comment:-) Jazakallah khair

> for sharing your views, and i hope u do not mind me sharing mine:-)

> > > i always see and connect with people, not from what cuture,

> community, religion , they come from, but from how i can connect with

> them, as one human being to another. I have every sorta freinds i love

> and whose friendship i value dearly, from muslims, jews, christains,

> athiests, hindus etc. etc...and people who pratice all kinds of

> lifestyles, from devout rleigious to even 1 freind i have who;s in the

> porn industry. What religon they partice and what lifestyle they have is

> not my business as that is a personal preference.

> > > i like to connect with people based on what we have in common as

> humans rather than what differences we may have.

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> > > if i have infact misunderstood ur post i do apologize.

> > > take care deflet

> > > wasalaam:-)

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> > > -K Designs.

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> > > " " Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their

> shoes.

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> > > That way, when you criticize them, you're already a mile away AND

> you have their

> > > shoes. "

> > > ~ a very pious intellectual

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> > > To: ACT_for_the_Public

> > > From: michieux@

> > > Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:20:27 +0000

> > > Subject: Re: Need your help... @

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> > > Hello ,

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> > > I am wondering why you seem to emphasize your beliefs here.

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> > > Seems to me the essence of ACT, despite its mindfulness aspect being

> compared to aspects of Buddhism, is essentially based in the reality of

> our experience, and how we tend to avoid that reality, thus aggravating

> our suffering.

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> > > My reflections on my life experience have led me to see that some,

> though not all, of the pain I have experienced can be directly traced to

> the insane and stupid religious beliefs (in our case, Catholic) of my

> parents.

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> > > The above may appear as a harsh condemnation of something many hold

> sacred, but I see that very " holding sacred " of unverifiable beliefs as

> part of the problem, and not as part of the resolution of our suffering.

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> > > Regards,

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> > > Detlef

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