Guest guest Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 Hi Thane, I was actually not aware that methylation support needs to be added for a while before starting butyrate. In our case, my son was taking phospholipids (together with B12 and folate) to support the " short-cut " from homocysteine to go back to methionine for a couple of years before adding butyrate. I cannot say for sure if he might experience regression if not following this order. Limin > Hi Limin, > > When taking oral Butyrate is there any risk of it mobilizing more toxins than it can properly eliminate? I recently heard Kane mention phenylbutyrate used in her IV protocol should only be added to the IV after the patient has been on the protocol for a couple weeks because beginning it at the same time as the phospholipids was causing some neurotoxic patients to regress, so I was curious if butyrate in oral form presented a similar risk. Thanks for your thoughts. > > -Thane > > >> >> Sasmita, >> >> If your purpose is to monitor ammonia issue, urine ammonia is an appropriate >> test. Blood ammonia levels are tightly controlled by the kidneys to >> maintain proper blood homeostasis. If elevated ammonia is detected in the >> blood, this actually suggests kidney problem and or hepatic encephalopathy. >> In another words, if blood ammonia is within the normal range, it does not >> rule out the possibility of excessive production of ammonia in the body. >> You will want to check this in urine. >> >> The blood-brain barrier is highly permeable to ammonia. Elevated ammonia in >> severe case can cause seizure activity, and even cause both functional and >> structural abnormalities. To detoxify ammonia, my all-time favorite tool is >> BH4, as it addresses several of my son's genetic deficiencies. >> >> Ammonia is derived predominantly from protein degradation. When having a >> high protein meal, Yasko suggests to take yucca root after mealtime to mop >> up ammonia. Yucca root is also an anti-inflammatory. Ideally, one can just >> cook protein foods with Yucca root as the Brazilian do. >> >> I do like butyrate, even though it stinks. A few years ago when my son was >> still in his diaper, one time I opened a capsule of butyrate at a birthday >> party, all the moms there bent over to check their children's diapers. >> Kane PhD (author of The Detoxx Book, creator of PK protocol) uses >> two things to help deep cell detox: phospholipids and butyric acids. >> Butyrate stimulates bile production, feeds beneficial flora in the gut, and >> detoxifies ammonia. Phospholipids and butyrate work together. >> Phospholipids is an emulsifer and enables cells to turnover deep (lipid) >> toxins. Butyrate is a short chain fatty acid which breaks renegade lipids >> into components which the body can discard. >> >> There are sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium butyrate available in >> the market. You can just choose a " flavor " of butyrate based upon your >> child's mineral deficiency. >> >> Limin >> -- >> http://www.healthbylimin.com/ >> Young Living Distributor # 1111136 >> >> " Follow those who seek the truth, >> but flee from those who have found it. " >> -- Unknown origin >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 06:15 PM >> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > >> Subject: Ca/Mg Butyrate >> >>> Hi ALL, >>> >>> I am finally thinking of using Butyrate for mopping Ammonia, suspect its >>> important right now >>> >>> So what do you guys prefer, Ca/Mg Butyrate, any reason for preference. >>> I was thinking of Mag. Butyrate. >>> Limin, I know you use it bigtime, where do you buy it from? >>> >>> Is there any kind of test(lab test) to tell if ammonia is a huge stressor >>> other than energy testing? >>> has anyone done Venous blood ammonia test? >>> >>> Thanks for your input, >>> Sasmita >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Quote
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 Limin, What about TMG? Dosnt this do about the same thing? Misty Ca/Mg Butyrate >> >>> Hi ALL, >>> >>> I am finally thinking of using Butyrate for mopping Ammonia, suspect its >>> important right now >>> >>> So what do you guys prefer, Ca/Mg Butyrate, any reason for preference. >>> I was thinking of Mag. Butyrate. >>> Limin, I know you use it bigtime, where do you buy it from? >>> >>> Is there any kind of test(lab test) to tell if ammonia is a huge stressor >>> other than energy testing? >>> has anyone done Venous blood ammonia test? >>> >>> Thanks for your input, >>> Sasmita >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Quote
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