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IsaFrom what I see in my son, the pain is in his head as he always closes his eyes, covers his ears, does not like to be touched, can’t stand light and sound.  He does not hold his tummy to show pain.  He does put his head down on the table and covers his head. He likes to dig my nails in his skin. He is in a lot of pain, my poor son, and I don’t know where he is hurting or what he is feeling.  He only has about 40 words.Fransel From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of isaguzmandiaz2@...Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 4:17 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutismSubject: Re: Oxalates- fransel Yes, sorry, l might be the one who is assuming he has general inflammation and therefore, pain in his gut. Do u consider this probable? Please consider UT pain as a possibility too, l just came to the thought coyple of days ago when l ate beets and started having UT discomfort a couple of hours later... What if he can't specify ewhat kind of pain he feels a he is experiencing something like this???IsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:42:20 -0700To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Oxalates- fransel Hello ISADon't recall saying my son has pain in tummy but has very frequent urination and excessive thirst. Sent from my iPad> Dear Fransel> When u mention you think your son has pain in tummy due to oxalate dumping, has he ever bconfirmed that to you?> I have experienced pain in the bladder/urinary tract due to oxalates and believe me, one can go grazy w that kind of pain....it is excruciating. Have u noticed if he pees more or presses his lower abs?> U could try giving him some pain killer specific for urinary tract and observe....it is sold w/o RX, l remember getting some for myself when visiting my sister in the US. I found it in the feminine care area. > Isa> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > ------------------------------------> >

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Sounds like my daughter too... Constantly covers her ears, hates bright light

and sound, can't stand having her hair brushed. She seeks deep pressure to her

forehead - tries to press her forehead into my face a lot. I have heard (I'm

sure you have too) it can be virus in the brain causing the pain/sensitivities.

Also have heard bacteria (strep), heavy metals or even parasites in the brain

cause the issues. Who knows what is causing the pain and how to discover the

actual cause. Just a lot of theories. Yes, it is agonizing to see our kids go

through this and for them not to be able to express what is wrong.

Kim

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> > Dear Fransel

> > When u mention you think your son has pain in tummy due to oxalate dumping,

has he ever bconfirmed that to you?

> > I have experienced pain in the bladder/urinary tract due to oxalates and

believe me, one can go grazy w that kind of pain....it is excruciating. Have u

noticed if he pees more or presses his lower abs?

> > U could try giving him some pain killer specific for urinary tract and

observe....it is sold w/o RX, l remember getting some for myself when visiting

my sister in the US. I found it in the feminine care area.

> > Isa

> >

> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

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in our house that would all mean yeast

From: Kim

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:14 AM

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: 's Pain

Sounds like my daughter too... Constantly covers her ears, hates bright light and sound, can't stand having her hair brushed. She seeks deep pressure to her forehead - tries to press her forehead into my face a lot. I have heard (I'm sure you have too) it can be virus in the brain causing the pain/sensitivities. Also have heard bacteria (strep), heavy metals or even parasites in the brain cause the issues. Who knows what is causing the pain and how to discover the actual cause. Just a lot of theories. Yes, it is agonizing to see our kids go through this and for them not to be able to express what is wrong.Kim > > > Dear Fransel> > When u mention you think your son has pain in tummy due to oxalate dumping, has he ever bconfirmed that to you?> > I have experienced pain in the bladder/urinary tract due to oxalates and believe me, one can go grazy w that kind of pain....it is excruciating. Have u noticed if he pees more or presses his lower abs?> > U could try giving him some pain killer specific for urinary tract and observe....it is sold w/o RX, l remember getting some for myself when visiting my sister in the US. I found it in the feminine care area. > > Isa> > > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >

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Those symptoms were mainly babesia for my son. Mepron eliminated light/sound

sensitivity and balance issues.

But, pressing on his head was bartonella. We first eliminated this with

resveratrol, but later eliminated the hair cut fear with antibiotics for strep

and bartonella.

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> > > Dear Fransel

> > > When u mention you think your son has pain in tummy due to oxalate

dumping, has he ever bconfirmed that to you?

> > > I have experienced pain in the bladder/urinary tract due to oxalates and

believe me, one can go grazy w that kind of pain....it is excruciating. Have u

noticed if he pees more or presses his lower abs?

> > > U could try giving him some pain killer specific for urinary tract and

observe....it is sold w/o RX, l remember getting some for myself when visiting

my sister in the US. I found it in the feminine care area.

> > > Isa

> > >

> > > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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sounds like a migrain off the top of my head!!

From: Fransel Wyrzykowski

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:54 AM

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Cc: Trying_Low_Oxalates

Subject: 's Pain

Isa

From what I see in my son, the pain is in his head as he always closes his eyes, covers his ears, does not like to be touched, can’t stand light and sound. He does not hold his tummy to show pain. He does put his head down on the table and covers his head. He likes to dig my nails in his skin. He is in a lot of pain, my poor son, and I don’t know where he is hurting or what he is feeling. He only has about 40 words.

Fransel

From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of isaguzmandiaz2@...Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 4:17 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutismSubject: Re: Oxalates- fransel

Yes, sorry, l might be the one who is assuming he has general inflammation and therefore, pain in his gut. Do u consider this probable? Please consider UT pain as a possibility too, l just came to the thought coyple of days ago when l ate beets and started having UT discomfort a couple of hours later... What if he can't specify ewhat kind of pain he feels a he is experiencing something like this???Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:42:20 -0700

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: Oxalates- fransel

Hello ISADon't recall saying my son has pain in tummy but has very frequent urination and excessive thirst. Sent from my iPad> Dear Fransel> When u mention you think your son has pain in tummy due to oxalate dumping, has he ever bconfirmed that to you?> I have experienced pain in the bladder/urinary tract due to oxalates and believe me, one can go grazy w that kind of pain....it is excruciating. Have u noticed if he pees more or presses his lower abs?> U could try giving him some pain killer specific for urinary tract and observe....it is sold w/o RX, l remember getting some for myself when visiting my sister in the US. I found it in the feminine care area. > Isa> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > ------------------------------------> >

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try getting a good quality brand of vitamin E and rubbing a dime-sized amount of it on his arm. If it stops, it's probably a migraine.> Dear Fransel> When u mention you think your son has pain in tummy due to oxalate dumping, has he ever bconfirmed that to you?> I have experienced pain in the bladder/urinary tract due to oxalates and believe me, one can go grazy w that kind of pain....it is excruciating. Have u noticed if he pees more or presses his lower abs?> U could try giving him some pain killer specific for urinary tract and observe....it is sold w/o RX, l remember getting some for myself when visiting my sister in the US. I found it in the feminine care area. > Isa> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > ------------------------------------> >

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most vit E is soy so beware if soy free

From: Curtin

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 1:40 PM

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

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try getting a good quality brand of vitamin E and rubbing a dime-sized amount of it on his arm. If it stops, it's probably a migraine.> Dear Fransel> When u mention you think your son has pain in tummy due to oxalate dumping, has he ever bconfirmed that to you?> I have experienced pain in the bladder/urinary tract due to oxalates and believe me, one can go grazy w that kind of pain....it is excruciating. Have u noticed if he pees more or presses his lower abs?> U could try giving him some pain killer specific for urinary tract and observe....it is sold w/o RX, l remember getting some for myself when visiting my sister in the US. I found it in the feminine care area. > Isa> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel> > ------------------------------------> >

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