Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 fyi....thought I'd post a very good interchange on one of the groups w/this just because it's the easiest way to pass you the info in it. ------------------ " N, One other thing I thought to share with you. As my husband & I were praying & researching this for ourselves, my husband happened to be reading the book " Darwin's Black Box, The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution " by J. Behe. While again the below excerpt is talking about surfactants in general & not specifically about this product, we did find the information interesting. In " Part III: What Does The Box Tell Us? " Chapter 9 " Intelligent Design " page 205 " Making Distinctions " says: " The basis of life is the cell, in which the biochemical processes that undergird the cell's existence are cordoned off from the rest of the environment. The structure that encapsulates the cell is called the cell membrane. It is made up mostly of molecules that are chemically similar to the detergents with which we wash our dishes & clothes. The exact type of detergent-like molecules that are used in membranes varies widely from one kind of cell to another: some are longer, some are shorter; some are looser, some are stiffer; some have positive charges, some have negative charges, and some are neutral. Most cells contain a mixture of different types of molecules in their membranes, and the blend can be different for different types of cells. When detergent molecules find themselves in water, they tend to associate with each other. A good example of this association is seen in the bubbles that slosh around in the washing machine while you're doing laundry. The bubbles consist of very thin layers of detergent (plus some water) in which the molecules are packed side by side. The spherical shape of the bubbles is due to a physical force called surface tension, which acts to reduce the area of the bubble to the smallest area able to accommodate the detergent. If you take the molecules from a cell membrane, purify them away from all the other components of a cell, and dissolve them in water, they will often pack together into a spherical, enclosed shape. " I've been told that this products surfactants are specifically chosen for the way several of their properties work with the human body.....that's why I believe we are hearing such good reports on it. As my husband & I prayed for wisdom, knowledge & discernment in determining if we should use this product, I further encourage the Christians that are seeking direction on this to review the 2nd & 3rd chapters of Proverbs for further guidance in your decision. Hope this helps further, Blessings! Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > food. > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 J, To save me time I'm going to refer you back to message #25759 which also addressed this....below is a copy...hope this helps: " It depends on the kid. With being 12 now & quite far along in his 6 years of BioMeds I started him on 5 drops 2x a day (breakfast & dinner dosing.....treat this as food w/what you're dosing it with....it is considered a whole food). After about a month I upped it to his current dose (4 months) of 10 drops 2x a day (which is what he is currently ART testing well for). One of the other children in our WA group that is smaller/younger (if I remember right he is 6yo)was started on 1 or 2 drops 2x a day & she has built to 4 drops 2x a day. For younger smaller children or children that are new to BioMeds & still need quite a bit of detox I'd probably start on 1-3 drops 2x a day & build up from there as they are tolerating.... For me, I'm about 2/3 detoxed (though still have some mercury amalgams that I haven't had the funds to have removed). I started on 8 drops 2x day & am up to 10-15 drops 1x daily (breakfast dosing). Please, Make Sure You Have good Binders On Board....especially for the metals dump as the layers start peeling. btw...I believe there are 1100 drops per bottle so 1 bottle is lasting my family 1 month(4 of us using it somewhat sparingly). Again, this is fairly new w/ASD kids so feedback is how we are learning more (thanks!) btw, if the child just won't take it, it can be applied topically (it actually works well on soars...I'm using it topically on one of my daughters soars right now, it will help stop the bleeding) as well including acupuncture points & belly button (which is how one of the children was told to take the LDM-100...they can be dropped into the belly button together...then lasered in if you want). Hope this helps, Rita " > > > >  I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a consumer…. > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > >With the posting of the XMRV study,I thought I'd share what we've been doing for > > >the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the product out of this e-mail to > > >protect the product (see link @ bottom) as it’s starting into a new era of > > >double-blind studies that is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > >to answer some, but not all?’s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > >open group format. > > > > > > > > >We had hit a plateau &  this product has catapulted us to a new level of healing. > > >I was introduced to it & started looking into it last fall. From my research I > > >have found that it helps the bodies immune system identify viruses, bacteria & > > >parasites (including those that try to hide from the immune system & attach > > >themselves to our DNA). It “turns on†the immune system which enables our bodies > > >to heal itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & worms > > >so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry other products (like > > >herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of the body (like the brain)…..for > > >example, we use it together with the LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > >Some things I’ve learned about it: > > > * It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas including 9 > > >years of well documented international use….all with NO known negative side > > >effects to date. It is categorized as a whole food. > > > > > > * The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our WA BioMed > > >is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have not seen any negative > > >reactions. > > > > > > * The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or ingestible > > >use. My family including drinks it right down & do not complain about the > > >soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/some of our kids (masking the taste > > >with juice is a good option). The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot > > >type glass w/a small amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full > > >glass of water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > >boost the vit C).. > > > > > > * Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric Dr. Both > > >have told me of surfactants use to help increase the survival rate of premature > > >babies in the medical arena….the dr. said the biggest drawback is they use them > > >carefully because of the high cost. For your info here is some links to general > > >info on surfactants: > > > > > > * Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > * Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > >         Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or drug, including > > >the above just gives you some          current info on surfactants in > > >general. > > > > > >It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It’s history is with > > >HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn’t stop me! It’s targeted to > > >the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset that’s what’s important to me! It > > >assists autoimmune related issues with low side effects. We have since seen all > > >of our docs including our Herbalist & have received high OK’s from ALL on how > > >well he is doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > >brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART tested on it). A > > >small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a high level group including > > >some of its founders early in the year & we now have several recovering ASD ( & > > >families) using it. Reports across the board are good. > > > > > >Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with this. I > > >have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing results from a wide > > >variety of autoimmune issues including a lab tech in Northern WA that has been > > >using it for some time. He told me to have baseline immune system labs run, > > >then rerun the labs after 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > >dramatic improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we’ve been using it 5 > > >months & ’s viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is substantially > > >reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really well all the way around, > > >physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > >What we have personally found using it with : > > >Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes with killing > > >organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical intervention we are all too > > >familiar with the side effects of a successful detox….this was no different. The > > >first couple of months along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > >some extra frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > >extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle School (gen > > >ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only 3 minutes between a > > >multi-level school building with about 800 kids (to say traffic between classes > > >is tough is an understatement…even some of the regular kids have issues). He’s > > >also learning multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math > > >curriculum…uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > >with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely needs to be > > >managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up adding extra Ionic > > >Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found additionally helpful. We have > > >had to up our binders (especially Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed > > >over the kidneys topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add > > >extra minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to our > > >standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > >Talking about cells, this is amazing….we’re talking cellular support here. I > > >have a digital picture (taken April 20,2011) of a Christmas tree that was cut & > > >put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 drops put into 1 gallon of water > > >for the 1 month that it was displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > >was put on his back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > >flexible….I’ve seen live trees in the neighborhood with our unseasonably bad NW > > >weather this year looking worse than this one. I have personally watched this > > >tree….this is no joke. I am happy to send you the picture of this beautiful > > >green Christmas tree that hasn’t figured out it’s suppose to be brown & dead by > > >now. Upon one of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > >watered her “not-doing-so-well†basil plant to have it perk right up ) This is > > >also being used successfully on animals including dogs & horses. > > > > > >Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I value your > > >feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to help me learn further > > >for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or XMRV. Any ?’s, please feel free to > > >contact me either on or off list. This product is not like any other product we > > >have used….it is beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) > > >w/an immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an immune > > >system to tackle things….it’s our immune systems that need to be reset to proper > > >functioning. With a properly working immune system we should not need any > > >man-made assistance. This product works directly on resetting our God given > > >immune system to fight it’s intended fight. > > > > > >One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman that was on 15 > > >different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real well on it she got ill. > > >After no one in the ER could figure out what was wrong because all the labs were > > >“normal†they figured out that it was all the meds that her body no longer > > >needed! The doctor removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing > > >very well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find yourself not > > >feeling well after a short time on this product, look at everything you are on & > > >check to see if your body no longer needs it. We stayed on our existing ART > > >tested protocol when using it (we are on all naturals/basically whole food > > >support items)…. & as always monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > >cycles through the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART > > >testing it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > >protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals onto it for a > > >short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > >ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review this w/him & > > >get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that needs info or samples I can > > >personally connect them w/either the founders or lab guy to further educate > > >them. I am really excited about this product!!! > > > > > >http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > >Rita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Bethany, It does not need another product to be effective, the chemical properties of this product itself working w/the body alone is amazing. The main reason for mentioning the use w/other products was to inform you that it will act as a carrier of other products so you're getting extra bang for your buck by adding this w/other products that you are using(for that matter, don't dose w/stuff you're body is not ready for, for example, if you have problems w/LDM-100 being to strong on it's own, don't dose it w/this product.....hope this makes sence). For us, we started taking it w/other stuff we've been on for a while so the body was already use to the other stuff when we dosed it together....so I'd say, don't start new stuff right away w/it, just dose according to what my basic rule of thumb is & that's only start one new thing @/a time so you'll know what's going on. Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Please, what product? How and I find out? Thanks.To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 12:21:49 PMSubject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using Bethany, One other thing I thought to mention, the older kids & most adults will generally show signs slower...that's were immune panels come in...you mostly can't "feel" the immune systems doing better, but you can see it on improved immune related labs. I have talked w/a guy here in WA that is involved w/a lab....he's seen the change many, many times from the baseline pre-use of this product then 30-60 days after using this product....immune panels are clearly better... & that's all different kinds of "diseases" ) Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 This product can be found at http://immusist.com/index.html. I think the idea is to protect the identity of the product by not mentioning its name on the list. Thanks, Bethany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the > >company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd > >share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the > >name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product > >(see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of > >double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be > >happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted > >us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started > >looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps > >the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach > >themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders > >like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is > >used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is > >categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The > >small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the > >ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for > >either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks > >it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am > >concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot > >type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately > >w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I > >want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB > >RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully > >because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general > >info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS > >NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my > >BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists > >autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of > >our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on > >how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can > >ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders > >early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) > >using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that > >have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then > >rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date > >we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall > >body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is > >doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals > >dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in > >OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we > >believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his > >1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building > >with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th > >grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for > >us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing > >detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over > >the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our > >Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals > >in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, > >2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It > >was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month > >that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & > >it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are > >soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood > >with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. > >I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green > >Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead > >by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have > >it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on > >animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over > >the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me > >either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals > > & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that > >God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune > >systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly > >working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. > >This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune > >system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I > >spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of > >weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER > >could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! > >The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now > >she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of > >stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on > >this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your > >body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol > >when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as > >it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on > >board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & > >target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to > >MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any > >other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Something came to me last night & it was about this post & the stronger breast-feeding... I remember a while back the 14 monkeys study where they mentioned the vaccinated monkeys did not breast-feed as well as the unvaccinated control group leading to a smaller growth rate.....I did not save a reference to it....can anyone help direct me to that study.... Thanks!!! Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Please, will someone write me offline about the product? I do not seem to be able to get an answer on this so far. Thanks. ecoartist1@...From: childbalance To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 12:12:27 AMSubject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using Something came to me last night & it was about this post & the stronger breast-feeding... I remember a while back the 14 monkeys study where they mentioned the vaccinated monkeys did not breast-feed as well as the unvaccinated control group leading to a smaller growth rate.....I did not save a reference to it....can anyone help direct me to that study.... Thanks!!! Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'm sorry, I'm on overload right now personally....I ask that everyone be patient w/me personally right now. I e-mailed you off-list, if you do not get it please let me know. Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 To pass others on-list the answers to her ?'s I have copied the answers below (I can only post my own....sorry for the jeapardy....but this will give some on-list additional references/answers: Info to the link of the product (to protect the product from advanced web searches we are NOT posting the products name....the lini to the product can be found in the original post on Apr 30 message #25729 & on Jun 1 message #26499 Also, for there are several PUBMED posts, which can be found throughout the thread, one of them is message #25750 on May 1st Hope these references will help others as well find the info they need on it. Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our > > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it > > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they > > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I just wanted to update the group on one of the kids in WA that has been using this...btw this child's (R's) mom is a pediatrician herself. When I met her on one of the big groups she ended up living about 10 min from me so we met up last fall. She had just started the GFCF in Sept/Oct.....her child was 3 and basically non-verbal. She saw one of our docs & ran labs in Jan. She then removed additional IgG/IgE food allergens & added HNI enzymes, probiotics & Brainchild minerals. Feb - Apr she added OLE & PauDeArco, March she saw the live Christmas tree & had a long talk w/one of the surfactant leaders...knowing about surfactants from the rx side she started it right away. About 1 month later she added Kangen water + CLO. Long story short her son is now very verbal & she just got back some labs she just had re-ran. R's IgE went from 555 down to 341 & the big one for her was his Phos went from 1847 down to a normal 50 (his kidney's are much less stressed!!!!). Also, his white blood cell went from below normal...has been there for toooo long & he was always sick...into low normal...huge for his mom!!! RitaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > > > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > > > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > > > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > > > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > > > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > > > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > > > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > > > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > > > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > > > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > > > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our > > > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > > > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > > > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > > > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > > > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > > > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > > > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > > > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > > > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > > > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > > > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > > > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > > > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > > > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > > > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > > > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > > > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > > > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > > > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > > > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > > > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > > > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > > > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > > > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > > > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > > > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > > > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > > > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > > > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > > > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > > > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > > > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > > > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > > > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > > > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > > > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > > > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > > > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > > > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > > > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > > > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > > > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > > > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > > > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > > > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > > > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > > > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > > > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > > > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > > > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > > > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > > > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > > > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > > > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > > > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > > > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > > > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > > > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > > > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > > > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > > > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > > > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > > > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > > > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > > > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > > > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > > > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > > > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > > > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > > > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > > > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > > > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it > > > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > > > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > > > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > > > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > > > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > > > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > > > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > > > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > > > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > > > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > > > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > > > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > > > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > > > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > > > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > > > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they > > > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > > > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > > > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > > > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > > > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > > > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > > > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > > > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > > > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > > > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > > > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > > > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > > > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > > > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > > > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hey Rita Can i ask you about that product aswell i think i have read that same in other forum but i cant find the post im preaty shure and i have visit the site of the product but i cat seems to find it any more could you send me the details please .Thanks RalitsaSubject: Re: Info on the new product we've been usingTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tuesday, 19 July, 2011, 19:27 I just wanted to update the group on one of the kids in WA that has been using this...btw this child's (R's) mom is a pediatrician herself. When I met her on one of the big groups she ended up living about 10 min from me so we met up last fall. She had just started the GFCF in Sept/Oct.....her child was 3 and basically non-verbal. She saw one of our docs & ran labs in Jan. She then removed additional IgG/IgE food allergens & added HNI enzymes, probiotics & Brainchild minerals. Feb - Apr she added OLE & PauDeArco, March she saw the live Christmas tree & had a long talk w/one of the surfactant leaders...knowing about surfactants from the rx side she started it right away. About 1 month later she added Kangen water + CLO. Long story short her son is now very verbal & she just got back some labs she just had re-ran. R's IgE went from 555 down to 341 & the big one for her was his Phos went from 1847 down to a normal 50 (his kidney's are much less stressed!!!!). Also, his white blood cell went from below normal...has been there for toooo long & he was always sick...into low normal...huge for his mom!!! RitaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > > > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > > > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > > > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > > > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > > > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > > > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > > > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > > > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > > > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > > > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > > > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our > > > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > > > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > > > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > > > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > > > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > > > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > > > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > > > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > > > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > > > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > > > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > > > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > > > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > > > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > > > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > > > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > > > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > > > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > > > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > > > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > > > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > > > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > > > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > > > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > > > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > > > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > > > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > > > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > > > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > > > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > > > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > > > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > > > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > > > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > > > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > > > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > > > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > > > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > > > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > > > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > > > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > > > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > > > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > > > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > > > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > > > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > > > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > > > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > > > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > > > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > > > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > > > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > > > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > > > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > > > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > > > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > > > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > > > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > > > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > > > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > > > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > > > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > > > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > > > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > > > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > > > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > > > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > > > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > > > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > > > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > > > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > > > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it > > > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > > > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > > > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > > > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > > > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > > > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > > > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > > > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > > > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > > > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > > > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > > > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > > > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > > > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > > > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > > > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they > > > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > > > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > > > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > > > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > > > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > > > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > > > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > > > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > > > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > > > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > > > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > > > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > > > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > > > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > > > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ralitsa, I tried to attach this post to some of the prior thread so people could just scroll down to read some of the prior posts on it...hope this helped some. I've only posted info on this to 2 boards....it's on this group starting w/message #25729 & MB12Valtrex starting w/message #106474(per my post log). With me being as busy as I am right now I've not had time to check every post...but I have periodically been advance searching " surfactants " since I've not been using it's name to help me find anything that may have been missed....advance searching this may help you also... Here's the link to the surfactant product we have been using (I'm not using the name of the product so it's harder to websearch this product on purpose): http://immusist.com/index.html Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > > > > > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > > > > > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > > > > > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > > > > > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > > > > > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > > > > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > > > > > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > > > > > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > > > > > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > > > > > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > > > > > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > > > > > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our > > > > > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > > > > > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > > > > > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > > > > > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > > > > > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > > > > > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > > > > > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > > > > > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > > > > > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > > > > > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > > > > > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > > > > > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > > > > > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > > > > > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > > > > > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > > > > > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > > > > > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > > > > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > > > > > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > > > > > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > > > > > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > > > > > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > > > > > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > > > > > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > > > > > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > > > > > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > > > > > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > > > > > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > > > > > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > > > > > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > > > > > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > > > > > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > > > > > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > > > > > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > > > > > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > > > > > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > > > > > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > > > > > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > > > > > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > > > > > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > > > > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > > > > > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > > > > > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > > > > > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > > > > > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > > > > > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > > > > > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > > > > > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > > > > > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > > > > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > > > > > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > > > > > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > > > > > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > > > > > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > > > > > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > > > > > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > > > > > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > > > > > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > > > > > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > > > > > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > > > > > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > > > > > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > > > > > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > > > > > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > > > > > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > > > > > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > > > > > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > > > > > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > > > > > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > > > > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > > > > > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > > > > > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > > > > > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > > > > > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > > > > > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > > > > > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it > > > > > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > > > > > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > > > > > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > > > > > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > > > > > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > > > > > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > > > > > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > > > > > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > > > > > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > > > > > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > > > > > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > > > > > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > > > > > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > > > > > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > > > > > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > > > > > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they > > > > > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > > > > > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > > > > > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > > > > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > > > > > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > > > > > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > > > > > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > > > > > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > > > > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > > > > > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > > > > > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > > > > > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > > > > > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > > > > > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > > > > > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > > > > > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > > > > > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Do you know what dose this mom was using? Or what you think she might be using? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > > > > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > > > > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > > > > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > > > > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > > > > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > > > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > > > > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > > > > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > > > > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > > > > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > > > > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > > > > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our > > > > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > > > > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > > > > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > > > > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > > > > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > > > > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > > > > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > > > > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > > > > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > > > > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > > > > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > > > > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > > > > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > > > > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > > > > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > > > > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > > > > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > > > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > > > > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > > > > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > > > > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > > > > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > > > > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > > > > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > > > > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > > > > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > > > > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > > > > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > > > > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > > > > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > > > > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > > > > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > > > > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > > > > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > > > > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > > > > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > > > > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > > > > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > > > > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > > > > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > > > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > > > > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > > > > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > > > > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > > > > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > > > > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > > > > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > > > > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > > > > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > > > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > > > > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > > > > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > > > > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > > > > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > > > > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > > > > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > > > > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > > > > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > > > > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > > > > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > > > > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > > > > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > > > > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > > > > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > > > > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > > > > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > > > > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > > > > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > > > > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > > > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > > > > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > > > > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > > > > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > > > > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > > > > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > > > > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it > > > > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > > > > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > > > > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > > > > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > > > > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > > > > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > > > > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > > > > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > > > > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > > > > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > > > > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > > > > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > > > > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > > > > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > > > > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > > > > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they > > > > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > > > > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > > > > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > > > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > > > > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > > > > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > > > > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > > > > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > > > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > > > > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > > > > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > > > > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > > > > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > > > > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > > > > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > > > > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > > > > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thank you very much Rita Subject: Re: Info on the new product we've been usingTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wednesday, 20 July, 2011, 7:27 Ralitsa, I tried to attach this post to some of the prior thread so people could just scroll down to read some of the prior posts on it...hope this helped some. I've only posted info on this to 2 boards....it's on this group starting w/message #25729 & MB12Valtrex starting w/message #106474(per my post log). With me being as busy as I am right now I've not had time to check every post...but I have periodically been advance searching "surfactants" since I've not been using it's name to help me find anything that may have been missed....advance searching this may help you also... Here's the link to the surfactant product we have been using (I'm not using the name of the product so it's harder to websearch this product on purpose): http://immusist.com/index.html Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > > > > > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > > > > > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > > > > > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > > > > > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > > > > > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > > > > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > > > > > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > > > > > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > > > > > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > > > > > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > > > > > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > > > > > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our > > > > > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > > > > > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > > > > > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > > > > > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > > > > > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > > > > > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > > > > > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > > > > > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > > > > > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > > > > > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > > > > > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > > > > > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > > > > > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > > > > > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > > > > > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > > > > > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > > > > > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > > > > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > > > > > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > > > > > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > > > > > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > > > > > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > > > > > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > > > > > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > > > > > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > > > > > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > > > > > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > > > > > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > > > > > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > > > > > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > > > > > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > > > > > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > > > > > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > > > > > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > > > > > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > > > > > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > > > > > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > > > > > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > > > > > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > > > > > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > > > > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > > > > > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > > > > > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > > > > > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > > > > > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > > > > > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > > > > > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > > > > > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > > > > > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > > > > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > > > > > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > > > > > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > > > > > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > > > > > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > > > > > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > > > > > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > > > > > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > > > > > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > > > > > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > > > > > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > > > > > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > > > > > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > > > > > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > > > > > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > > > > > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > > > > > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > > > > > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > > > > > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > > > > > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > > > > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > > > > > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > > > > > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > > > > > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > > > > > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > > > > > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > > > > > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it > > > > > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > > > > > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > > > > > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > > > > > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > > > > > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > > > > > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > > > > > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > > > > > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > > > > > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > > > > > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > > > > > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > > > > > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > > > > > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > > > > > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > > > > > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > > > > > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they > > > > > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > > > > > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > > > > > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > > > > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > > > > > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > > > > > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > > > > > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > > > > > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > > > > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > > > > > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > > > > > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > > > > > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > > > > > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > > > > > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > > > > > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > > > > > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > > > > > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I'll confirm w/her in a few days I'll be talking w/her again...if I remember correctly she went from 3 drops 2x day to 5 drops 2xday & I believe she's been holding there... RitaG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company > > > > > >but as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share > > > > > >what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name > > > > > >of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see > > > > > >link @ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind > > > > > >studies that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy > > > > > >to answer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the > > > > > >product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us > > > > > >to a new level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking > > > > > >into it last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the > > > > > >bodies immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites > > > > > >(including those that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves > > > > > >to our DNA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our > > > > > >bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like > > > > > >parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used > > > > > >to carry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into > > > > > >difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it > > > > > >together with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully > > > > > >used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international > > > > > >use….all with NO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized > > > > > >as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small > > > > > >group of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones > > > > > >using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either > > > > > >topical or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it > > > > > >right down & do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned > > > > > >about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a > > > > > >good option). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type > > > > > >glass w/a small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a > > > > > >full glass of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want > > > > > >to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN > > > > > > & a Pediatric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help > > > > > >increase the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical > > > > > >arena….the dr. said > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because > > > > > >of the high > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info > > > > > >on surfactants: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT > > > > > >a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some > > > > > >current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or > > > > > >Lyme….It's history is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related > > > > > >diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical > > > > > >mindset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune > > > > > >related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our > > > > > >docs including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how > > > > > >well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our > > > > > >docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to > > > > > >be ART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy > > > > > >moms) met with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early > > > > > >in the year & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using > > > > > >it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a > > > > > >cellular basis with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have > > > > > >had amazing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues > > > > > >including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some > > > > > >time. He told me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun > > > > > >the labs after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found > > > > > >dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've > > > > > >been using it 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body > > > > > >stress is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing > > > > > >really, really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & > > > > > >educationally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping > > > > > >that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of > > > > > >BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side > > > > > >effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first > > > > > >couple of months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & > > > > > >some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe > > > > > >to be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st > > > > > >year in Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker > > > > > >combinations) & only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with > > > > > >about 800 kids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an > > > > > >understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also > > > > > >learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade > > > > > >math curriculum… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals > > > > > >movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us > > > > > >but definitely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox > > > > > >we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports > > > > > >which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders > > > > > >(especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the > > > > > >kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & > > > > > >add extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in > > > > > >addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking > > > > > >cellular support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) > > > > > >of a Christmas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was > > > > > >watered with 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that > > > > > >it was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it > > > > > >was put on his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with > > > > > >our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse > > > > > >than this one. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I > > > > > >am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas > > > > > >tree that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by > > > > > >now. Upon one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing > > > > > >this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it > > > > > >perk right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals > > > > > >including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the > > > > > >years, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the > > > > > >product, mainly to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, > > > > > >lyme/co-infections or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on > > > > > >or off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have > > > > > >used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & > > > > > >plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God > > > > > >gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems > > > > > >that need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working > > > > > >immune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This > > > > > >product > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system > > > > > >to fight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke > > > > > >with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks > > > > > >of doing real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could > > > > > >figure out what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they > > > > > >figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The > > > > > >doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she > > > > > >doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff > > > > > > & find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this > > > > > >product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no > > > > > >longer needs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when > > > > > >using it (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support > > > > > >items)…. & as always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it > > > > > >cycles through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, > > > > > >when ART testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board > > > > > >for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked > > > > > >other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target > > > > > >items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP > > > > > >to review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other > > > > > >docs that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them > > > > > >w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am > > > > > >really excited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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