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fyi....thought I'd post a very good interchange on one of the groups w/this just

because it's the easiest way to pass you the info in it.

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" N,

One other thing I thought to share with you. As my husband & I were praying &

researching this for ourselves, my husband happened to be reading the book

" Darwin's Black Box, The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution " by J. Behe.

While again the below excerpt is talking about surfactants in general & not

specifically about this product, we did find the information interesting. In

" Part III: What Does The Box Tell Us? " Chapter 9 " Intelligent Design " page 205

" Making Distinctions " says:

" The basis of life is the cell, in which the biochemical processes that

undergird the cell's existence are cordoned off from the rest of the

environment. The structure that encapsulates the cell is called the cell

membrane. It is made up mostly of molecules that are chemically similar to the

detergents with which we wash our dishes & clothes. The exact type of

detergent-like molecules that are used in membranes varies widely from one kind

of cell to another: some are longer, some are shorter; some are looser, some are

stiffer; some have positive charges, some have negative charges, and some are

neutral. Most cells contain a mixture of different types of molecules in their

membranes, and the blend can be different for different types of cells.

When detergent molecules find themselves in water, they tend to associate with

each other. A good example of this association is seen in the bubbles that slosh

around in the washing machine while you're doing laundry. The bubbles consist of

very thin layers of detergent (plus some water) in which the molecules are

packed side by side. The spherical shape of the bubbles is due to a physical

force called surface tension, which acts to reduce the area of the bubble to the

smallest area able to accommodate the detergent. If you take the

molecules from a cell membrane, purify them away from all the other components

of a cell, and dissolve them in water, they will often pack together into a

spherical, enclosed shape. "

I've been told that this products surfactants are specifically chosen for the

way several of their properties work with the human body.....that's why I

believe we are hearing such good reports on it.

As my husband & I prayed for wisdom, knowledge & discernment in determining if

we should use this product, I further encourage the Christians that are seeking

direction on this to review the 2nd & 3rd chapters of Proverbs for further

guidance in your decision.

Hope this helps further,

Blessings!

Rita

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a

> > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've

> > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the

> > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @

> > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that

> > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer

> > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this

> > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level

> > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last

> > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune

> > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that

> > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA).

> > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to heal

> > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites &

> > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry

> > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of

> > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the

> > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas

> > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO

> > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole

> > > > > > food.

> > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our

> > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have

> > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or

> > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do

> > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/

> > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option).

> > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small

> > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of

> > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further

> > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric

> > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the

> > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said

> > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high

> > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on

surfactants:

> > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or

> > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current

> > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is

> > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset

> > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues

> > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including

> > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is

> > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I

> > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART

> > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a

> > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year &

> > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports

> > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with

> > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing

> > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab

> > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me

> > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after

> > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic

> > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5

> > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is

> > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really

> > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes

> > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical

> > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a

> > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months

> > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra

> > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some

> > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle

> > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only

> > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids

> > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even

> > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning

> > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math

curriculum…

> > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come

> > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely

> > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up

> > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found

> > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially

> > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys

> > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra

> > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to

> > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support

> > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas

> > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3

> > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was

> > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his

> > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

> > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our

> > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I

> > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to

> > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that

> > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one

> > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she

> > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk right

> > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on animals including

> > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I

> > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to

> > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or

> > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list.

> > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is

> > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an

> > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an

> > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to

> > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune

> > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product

> > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight

> > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman

> > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real

> > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what

> > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out that

> > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor

> > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very

> > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find

> > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look

> > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs

> > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we

> > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always

> > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through

> > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing

> > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the

> > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals

> > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review

> > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that

> > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the

> > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited

> > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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J,

To save me time I'm going to refer you back to message #25759 which also

addressed this....below is a copy...hope this helps:

" It depends on the kid. With being 12 now & quite far along in his 6

years of BioMeds I started him on 5 drops 2x a day (breakfast & dinner

dosing.....treat this as food w/what you're dosing it with....it is considered a

whole food). After about a month I upped it to his current dose (4 months) of 10

drops 2x a day (which is what he is currently ART testing well for).

One of the other children in our WA group that is smaller/younger (if I remember

right he is 6yo)was started on 1 or 2 drops 2x a day & she has built to 4 drops

2x a day.

For younger smaller children or children that are new to BioMeds & still need

quite a bit of detox I'd probably start on 1-3 drops 2x a day & build up from

there as they are tolerating....

For me, I'm about 2/3 detoxed (though still have some mercury amalgams that I

haven't had the funds to have removed). I started on 8 drops 2x day & am up to

10-15 drops 1x daily (breakfast dosing).

Please, Make Sure You Have good Binders On Board....especially for the metals

dump as the layers start peeling.

btw...I believe there are 1100 drops per bottle so 1 bottle is lasting my family

1 month(4 of us using it somewhat sparingly).

Again, this is fairly new w/ASD kids so feedback is how we are learning more

(thanks!)

btw, if the child just won't take it, it can be applied topically (it actually

works well on soars...I'm using it topically on one of my daughters soars right

now, it will help stop the bleeding) as well including acupuncture points &

belly button (which is how one of the children was told to take the

LDM-100...they can be dropped into the belly button together...then lasered in

if you want).

Hope this helps,

Rita "

> >

> >  I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a consumer….

> > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > 

> > >With the posting of the XMRV study,I thought I'd share what we've been

doing for

> > >the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the product out of this e-mail

to

> > >protect the product  (see link @ bottom) as it’s starting into a new era

of

> > >double-blind studies that is in the process of being organized. I will be

happy

> > >to answer some, but not all?’s on-list….again to protect the product in

this

> > >open group format.

> > >

> > > 

> > >We had hit a plateau &  this product has catapulted us to a new level of

healing.

> > >I was introduced to it & started looking into it last fall. From my

research I

> > >have found that it helps the bodies immune system identify viruses,

bacteria &

> > >parasites (including those that try to hide from the immune system & attach

> > >themselves to our DNA). It “turns on†the immune system which enables

our bodies

> > >to heal itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites &

worms

> > >so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry other products

(like

> > >herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of the body (like the

brain)…..for

> > >example, we use it together with the LDM-100 to additionally boost the

LDM-100.

> > > 

> > >Some things I’ve learned about it:

> > > * It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas

including 9

> > >years of well documented international use….all with NO known negative

side

> > >effects to date. It is categorized as a whole food.

> > >

> > > * The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our WA

BioMed

> > >is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have not seen any

negative

> > >reactions.

> > >

> > > * The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or

ingestible

> > >use. My family including drinks it right down & do not complain

about the

> > >soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/some of our kids (masking the

taste

> > >with juice is a good option). The way you take it: Put drops in a little

shot

> > >type glass w/a small amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a

full

> > >glass of water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further

> > >boost the vit C)..

> > >

> > > * Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric Dr.

Both

> > >have told me of surfactants use to help increase the survival rate of

premature

> > >babies in the medical arena….the dr. said the biggest drawback is they

use them

> > >carefully because of the high cost. For your info here is some links to

general

> > >info on surfactants:

> > >

> > > * Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > * Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > >            Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or

drug, including

> > >the above just gives you some             current info on

surfactants in

> > >general.

> > > 

> > >It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It’s history is

with

> > >HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn’t stop me! It’s

targeted to

> > >the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset that’s what’s important

to me! It

> > >assists autoimmune related issues with low side effects. We have since seen

all

> > >of our docs including our Herbalist & have received high OK’s from ALL on

how

> > >well he is doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month

I

> > >brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART tested on

it). A

> > >small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a high level group

including

> > >some of its founders early in the year & we now have several recovering ASD

( &

> > >families) using it. Reports across the board are good.

> > > 

> > >Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with this.

I

> > >have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing results from a

wide

> > >variety of autoimmune issues including a lab tech in Northern WA that has

been

> > >using it for some time. He told me to have baseline immune system labs

run, 

> > >then rerun the labs after 30-60 days of product use where they have found

> > >dramatic improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we’ve been using

it 5

> > >months & ’s viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is

substantially

> > >reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really well all the way

around,

> > >physically, socially & educationally.

> > > 

> > >What we have personally found using it with :

> > >Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes with

killing

> > >organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical intervention we are all too

> > >familiar with the side effects of a successful detox….this was no

different. The

> > >first couple of months along with the good gains we saw some increase in

OCD &

> > >some extra frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be

some

> > >extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle School

(gen

> > >ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only 3 minutes between

a

> > >multi-level school building with about 800 kids (to say traffic between

classes

> > >is tough is an understatement…even some of the regular kids have issues).

He’s

> > >also learning multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math

> > >curriculum…uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has

come

> > >with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely needs

to be

> > >managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up adding extra Ionic

> > >Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found additionally helpful. We

have

> > >had to up our binders (especially Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both

rubbed

> > >over the kidneys topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add

> > >extra minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to our

> > >standard minerals in our protocol).

> > >

> > > 

> > >Talking about cells, this is amazing….we’re talking cellular support

here. I

> > >have a digital picture (taken April 20,2011) of a Christmas tree that was

cut &

> > >put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 drops put into 1 gallon of

water

> > >for the 1 month that it was displayed inside. The water was then dumped out

& it

> > >was put on his back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

> > >flexible….I’ve seen live trees in the neighborhood with our

unseasonably bad NW

> > >weather this year looking worse than this one. I have personally watched

this

> > >tree….this is no joke. I am happy to send you the picture of this

beautiful

> > >green Christmas tree that hasn’t figured out it’s suppose to be brown &

dead by

> > >now. Upon one of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree

she

> > >watered her “not-doing-so-well†basil plant to have it perk right up

:o) This is

> > >also being used successfully on animals including dogs & horses.

> > > 

> > >Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I value your

> > >feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to help me learn

further

> > >for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or XMRV. Any ?’s, please feel

free to

> > >contact me either on or off list. This product is not like any other

product we

> > >have used….it is beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals &

plants)

> > >w/an immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an

immune

> > >system to tackle things….it’s our immune systems that need to be reset

to proper

> > >functioning. With a properly working immune system we should not need any

> > >man-made assistance. This product works directly on resetting our God given

> > >immune system to fight it’s intended fight.

> > > 

> > >One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman that was

on 15

> > >different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real well on it she got

ill.

> > >After no one in the ER could figure out what was wrong because all the labs

were

> > >“normal†they figured out that it was all the meds that her body no

longer

> > >needed! The doctor removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she

doing

> > >very well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find

yourself not

> > >feeling well after a short time on this product, look at everything you are

on &

> > >check to see if your body no longer needs it. We stayed on our existing ART

> > >tested protocol when using it (we are on all naturals/basically whole food

> > >support items)…. & as always monitor the body for the detox related

changes as it

> > >cycles through the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART

> > >testing it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the

> > >protocol  to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals onto it

for a

> > >short time to help boost them & target items.

> > > 

> > >ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review this

w/him &

> > >get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that needs info or samples

I can

> > >personally connect them w/either the founders or lab guy to further educate

> > >them. I am really excited about this product!!!

> > > 

> > >http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > 

> > >Rita

> > > 

> >

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Bethany,

It does not need another product to be effective, the chemical properties of

this product itself working w/the body alone is amazing.

The main reason for mentioning the use w/other products was to inform you that

it will act as a carrier of other products so you're getting extra bang for your

buck by adding this w/other products that you are using(for that matter, don't

dose w/stuff you're body is not ready for, for example, if you have problems

w/LDM-100 being to strong on it's own, don't dose it w/this product.....hope

this makes sence).

For us, we started taking it w/other stuff we've been on for a while so the body

was already use to the other stuff when we dosed it together....so I'd say,

don't start new stuff right away w/it, just dose according to what my basic rule

of thumb is & that's only start one new thing @/a time so you'll know what's

going on.

Rita

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a

> > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what

we've

> > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the

> > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @

> > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind

studies that

> > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to

answer

> > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in

this

> > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new

level

> > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it

last

> > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies

immune

> > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those

that

> > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our

DNA).

> > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our bodies to

heal

> > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like

parasites &

> > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to

carry

> > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas

of

> > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together

with the

> > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used

overseas

> > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all

with NO

> > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a

whole

> > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group

of our

> > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it

have

> > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical

or

> > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right

down & do

> > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it

w/

> > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good

option).

> > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a

small

> > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full

glass of

> > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to

further

> > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a

Pediatric

> > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the

> > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the

dr. said

> > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the

high

> > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on

surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx

or

> > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

current

> > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's

history is

> > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop

me!

> > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset

> > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related

issues

> > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs

including

> > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well

he is

> > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month

I

> > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART

> > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met

with a

> > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the

year &

> > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it.

Reports

> > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular

basis with

> > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had

amazing

> > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a

lab

> > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He

told me

> > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs

after

> > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic

> > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been

using it 5

> > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress

is

> > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really,

really

> > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that

comes

> > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical

> > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of

a

> > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of

months

> > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some

extra

> > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be

some

> > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in

Middle

> > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations)

& only

> > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800

kids

> > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

understatement…even

> > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning

> > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math

curriculum…

> > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has

come

> > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but

definitely

> > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended

up

> > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we

found

> > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders

(especially

> > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys

> > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add

extra

> > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition

to

> > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular

support

> > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a

Christmas

> > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered

with 3

> > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was

> > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put

on his

> > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

> > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our

> > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this

one. I

> > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy

to

> > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree

that

> > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now.

Upon one

> > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree

she

> > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it perk

right

> > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on animals

including

> > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years,

I

> > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product,

mainly to

> > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

lyme/co-infections or

> > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off

list.

> > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is

> > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants)

w/an

> > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us

an

> > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that

need to

> > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune

> > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This

product

> > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to

fight

> > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a

woman

> > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of

doing real

> > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure

out what

> > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they figured out

that

> > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor

> > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing

very

> > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find

> > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product,

look

> > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer

needs

> > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using

it (we

> > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as

always

> > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles

through

> > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART

testing

> > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for

the

> > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other

naturals

> > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to

review

> > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs

that

> > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either

the

> > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really

excited

> > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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Please, what product? How and I find out? Thanks.To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 12:21:49 PMSubject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using

Bethany,

One other thing I thought to mention, the older kids & most adults will generally show signs slower...that's were immune panels come in...you mostly can't "feel" the immune systems doing better, but you can see it on improved immune related labs. I have talked w/a guy here in WA that is involved w/a lab....he's seen the change many, many times from the baseline pre-use of this product then 30-60 days after using this product....immune panels are clearly better... & that's all different kinds of "diseases" :o)

Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our bodies to heal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum…

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it perk right

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on animals including

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they figured out that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

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This product can be found at http://immusist.com/index.html. I think the idea

is to protect the identity of the product by not mentioning its name on the

list.

Thanks,

Bethany

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the

> >company but as a

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought

I'd

> >share what we've

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving

the

> >name of the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the

product

> >(see link @

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

> >double-blind studies that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be

> >happy to answer

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect

the

> >product in this

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has

catapulted

> >us to a new level

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started

> >looking into it last

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it

helps

> >the bodies immune

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

> >(including those that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach

> >themselves to our DNA).

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables

our

> >bodies to heal

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate

invaders

> >like parasites &

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also

is

> >used to carry

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

> >difficult areas of

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we

use it

> >together with the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very

successfully

> >used overseas

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented

international

> >use….all with NO

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is

> >categorized as a whole

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The

> >small group of our

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the

> >ones using it have

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for

> >either topical or

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including

drinks

> >it right down & do

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am

> >concerned about it w/

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice

is a

> >good option).

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot

> >type glass w/a small

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow

immediately

> >w/a full glass of

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as

I

> >want to further

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an

OB

> >RN & a Pediatric

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help

> >increase the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical

> >arena….the dr. said

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully

> >because of the high

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to

general

> >info on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using

IS

> >NOT a rx or

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

> >current

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

> >Lyme….It's history is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

> >diseases….didn't stop me!

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my

> >BioMedical mindset

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists

> >autoimmune related issues

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of

> >our docs including

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL

on

> >how well he is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

> >docs….last month I

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can

> >ask to be ART

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme

savvy

> >moms) met with a

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders

> >early in the year &

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families)

> >using it. Reports

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a

> >cellular basis with

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people

that

> >have had amazing

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues

> >including a lab

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for

some

> >time. He told me

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then

> >rerun the labs after

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found

> >dramatic

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date

> >we've been using it 5

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial &

overall

> >body stress is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is

> >doing really, really

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially &

> >educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with

> :

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals

> >dumping that comes

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

> >BioMedical

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the

side

> >effects of a

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The

first

> >couple of months

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase

in

> >OCD & some extra

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we

> >believe to be some

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is

his

> >1st year in Middle

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker

> >combinations) & only

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building

> >with about 800 kids

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

> >understatement…even

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also

> >learning

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th

> >grade math curriculum…

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals

> >movement has come

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming

for

> >us but definitely

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing

> >detox we ended up

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser

supports

> >which we found

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our

binders

> >(especially

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over

> >the kidneys

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our

> >Alfalfa & add extra

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life

Multi-minerals

> >in addition to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're

talking

> >cellular support

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20,

> >2011) of a Christmas

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It

> >was watered with 3

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month

> >that it was

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out

&

> >it was put on his

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are

> >soft &

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the

neighborhood

> >with our

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking

worse

> >than this one. I

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no

joke.

> >I am happy to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green

> >Christmas tree that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown &

dead

> >by now. Upon one

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from

seeing

> >this tree she

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to

have

> >it perk right

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on

> >animals including

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported

over

> >the years, I

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the

> >product, mainly to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

> >lyme/co-infections or

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me

> >either on or off list.

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we

have

> >used….it is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including

animals

> > & plants) w/an

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy

that

> >God gave us an

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our

immune

> >systems that need to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly

> >working immune

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made

assistance.

> >This product

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune

> >system to fight

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I

> >spoke with a woman

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of

> >weeks of doing real

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER

> >could figure out what

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal "

they

> >figured out that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer

needed!

> >The doctor

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on &

now

> >she doing very

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch

of

> >stuff & find

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on

> >this product, look

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your

> >body no longer needs

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested

protocol

> >when using it (we

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support

> >items)…. & as always

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes

as

> >it cycles through

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out.

Also,

> >when ART testing

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are

on

> >board for the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have

piggybacked

> >other naturals

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them &

> >target items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to

talk to

> >MP to review

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his

Zyto…..any

> >other docs that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect

them

> >w/either the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I

am

> >really excited

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Something came to me last night & it was about this post & the stronger

breast-feeding...

I remember a while back the 14 monkeys study where they mentioned the vaccinated

monkeys did not breast-feed as well as the unvaccinated control group leading to

a smaller growth rate.....I did not save a reference to it....can anyone help

direct me to that study....

Thanks!!!

Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company

but as a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd

share what we've

> > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the

name of the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product

(see link @

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

double-blind studies that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy

to answer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the

product in this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us

to a new level

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking

into it last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the

bodies immune

> > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

(including those that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves

to our DNA).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our

bodies to heal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like

parasites &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used

to carry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

difficult areas of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it

together with the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully

used overseas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international

use….all with NO

> > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized

as a whole

> > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small

group of our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones

using it have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either

topical or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it

right down & do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned

about it w/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a

good option).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type

glass w/a small

> > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a

full glass of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I

want to further

> > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN

& a Pediatric

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help

increase the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical

arena….the dr. said

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully

because of the high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info

on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS

NOT a rx or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

current

> > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

Lyme….It's history is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical

mindset

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune

related issues

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our

docs including

> > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on

how well he is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

docs….last month I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask

to be ART

> > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy

moms) met with a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early

in the year &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using

it. Reports

> > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a

cellular basis with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that

have had amazing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues

including a lab

> > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some

time. He told me

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun

the labs after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found

dramatic

> > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've

been using it 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall

body stress is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing

really, really

> > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially &

educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals

dumping that comes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

BioMedical

> > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side

effects of a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first

couple of months

> > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD

& some extra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe

to be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st

year in Middle

> > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker

combinations) & only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with

about 800 kids

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

understatement…even

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also

learning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade

math curriculum…

> > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals

movement has come

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us

but definitely

> > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox

we ended up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports

which we found

> > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders

(especially

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the

kidneys

> > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa &

add extra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in

addition to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking

cellular support

> > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011)

of a Christmas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was

watered with 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that

it was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it

was put on his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft

&

> > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood

with our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse

than this one. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I

am happy to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas

tree that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by

now. Upon one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing

this tree she

> > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have it

perk right

> > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on animals

including

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the

years, I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the

product, mainly to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

lyme/co-infections or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either

on or off list.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have

used….it is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals &

plants) w/an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God

gave us an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune

systems that need to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly

working immune

> > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance.

This product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune

system to fight

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke

with a woman

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks

of doing real

> > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could

figure out what

> > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they

figured out that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed!

The doctor

> > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now

she doing very

> > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of

stuff & find

> > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this

product, look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body

no longer needs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when

using it (we

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support

items)…. & as always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it

cycles through

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also,

when ART testing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on

board for the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked

other naturals

> > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target

items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP

to review

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other

docs that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them

w/either the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am

really excited

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

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Please, will someone write me offline about the product? I do not seem to be able to get an answer on this so far. Thanks. ecoartist1@...From: childbalance To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 12:12:27 AMSubject:

Re: Info on the new product we've been using

Something came to me last night & it was about this post & the stronger breast-feeding...

I remember a while back the 14 monkeys study where they mentioned the vaccinated monkeys did not breast-feed as well as the unvaccinated control group leading to a smaller growth rate.....I did not save a reference to it....can anyone help direct me to that study....

Thanks!!!

Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've

> > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune

> > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our bodies to heal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO

> > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole

> > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small

> > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further

> > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current

> > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including

> > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART

> > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports

> > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab

> > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic

> > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really

> > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical

> > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months

> > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle

> > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even

> > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum…

> > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely

> > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found

> > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys

> > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support

> > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she

> > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it perk right

> > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on animals including

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune

> > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real

> > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what

> > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they figured out that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor

> > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very

> > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find

> > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always

> > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals

> > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

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I'm sorry, I'm on overload right now personally....I ask that everyone be

patient w/me personally right now. I e-mailed you off-list, if you do not get it

please let me know.

Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the

company

> >but as a

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd

share

> >what we've

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the

name

> >of the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product

(see

> >link @

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

double-blind

> >studies that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be

happy

> >to answer

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the

> >product in this

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted

us

> >to a new level

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking

> >into it last

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps

the

> >bodies immune

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

> >(including those that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach

themselves

> >to our DNA).

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our

> >bodies to heal

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders

like

> >parasites &

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is

used

> >to carry

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

> >difficult areas of

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it

> >together with the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully

> >used overseas

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international

> >use….all with NO

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is

categorized

> >as a whole

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The

small

> >group of our

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones

> >using it have

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either

> >topical or

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it

> >right down & do

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am

concerned

> >about it w/

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a

> >good option).

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type

> >glass w/a small

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately

w/a

> >full glass of

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I

want

> >to further

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB

RN

> > & a Pediatric

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help

> >increase the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical

> >arena….the dr. said

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully

because

> >of the high

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general

info

> >on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS

NOT

> >a rx or

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

> >current

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

> >Lyme….It's history is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

> >diseases….didn't stop me!

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my

BioMedical

> >mindset

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune

> >related issues

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our

> >docs including

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on

how

> >well he is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

> >docs….last month I

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask

to

> >be ART

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy

> >moms) met with a

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders

early

> >in the year &

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families)

using

> >it. Reports

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a

> >cellular basis with

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that

have

> >had amazing

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues

> >including a lab

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some

> >time. He told me

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun

> >the labs after

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found

> >dramatic

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've

> >been using it 5

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall

body

> >stress is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing

> >really, really

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially &

> >educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals

dumping

> >that comes

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

> >BioMedical

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side

> >effects of a

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first

> >couple of months

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in

OCD &

> >some extra

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we

believe

> >to be some

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his

1st

> >year in Middle

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker

> >combinations) & only

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with

> >about 800 kids

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

> >understatement…even

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also

> >learning

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade

> >math curriculum…

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals

> >movement has come

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for

us

> >but definitely

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing

detox

> >we ended up

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports

> >which we found

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders

> >(especially

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the

> >kidneys

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa

&

> >add extra

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals

in

> >addition to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're

talking

> >cellular support

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20,

2011)

> >of a Christmas

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was

> >watered with 3

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month

that

> >it was

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it

> >was put on his

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are

soft &

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood

with

> >our

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse

> >than this one. I

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no

joke. I

> >am happy to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green

Christmas

> >tree that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead

by

> >now. Upon one

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing

> >this tree she

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to have

it

> >perk right

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on

animals

> >including

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over

the

> >years, I

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the

> >product, mainly to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

> >lyme/co-infections or

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either

on

> >or off list.

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have

> >used….it is

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals

&

> >plants) w/an

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that

God

> >gave us an

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune

systems

> >that need to

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly

working

> >immune

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance.

This

> >product

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune

system

> >to fight

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke

> >with a woman

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of

weeks

> >of doing real

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could

> >figure out what

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they

> >figured out that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed!

The

> >doctor

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now

she

> >doing very

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of

stuff

> > & find

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this

> >product, look

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body

no

> >longer needs

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol

when

> >using it (we

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support

> >items)…. & as always

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it

> >cycles through

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also,

> >when ART testing

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on

board

> >for the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked

> >other naturals

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target

> >items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk

to MP

> >to review

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any

other

> >docs that

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them

> >w/either the

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am

> >really excited

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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To pass others on-list the answers to her ?'s I have copied the answers below (I

can only post my own....sorry for the jeapardy....but this will give some

on-list additional references/answers:

Info to the link of the product (to protect the product from advanced web

searches we are NOT posting the products name....the lini to the product can be

found in the original post on Apr 30 message #25729 & on Jun 1 message #26499

Also, for there are several PUBMED posts, which can be found throughout the

thread, one of them is message #25750 on May 1st

Hope these references will help others as well find the info they need on it.

Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the

company

> > >but as a

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd

share

> > >what we've

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the

name

> > >of the

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product

(see

> > >link @

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

double-blind

> > >studies that

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be

happy

> > >to answer

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect

the

> > >product in this

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted

us

> > >to a new level

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started

looking

> > >into it last

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps

the

> > >bodies immune

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

> > >(including those that

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach

themselves

> > >to our DNA).

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables our

> > >bodies to heal

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders

like

> > >parasites &

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is

used

> > >to carry

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

> > >difficult areas of

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use

it

> > >together with the

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very

successfully

> > >used overseas

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international

> > >use….all with NO

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is

categorized

> > >as a whole

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The

small

> > >group of our

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the

ones

> > >using it have

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for

either

> > >topical or

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks

it

> > >right down & do

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am

concerned

> > >about it w/

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is

a

> > >good option).

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot

type

> > >glass w/a small

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately

w/a

> > >full glass of

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I

want

> > >to further

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an

OB RN

> > > & a Pediatric

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help

> > >increase the

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical

> > >arena….the dr. said

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully

because

> > >of the high

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general

info

> > >on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using

IS NOT

> > >a rx or

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

> > >current

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

> > >Lyme….It's history is

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

> > >diseases….didn't stop me!

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my

BioMedical

> > >mindset

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists

autoimmune

> > >related issues

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of

our

> > >docs including

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL

on how

> > >well he is

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

> > >docs….last month I

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can

ask to

> > >be ART

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy

> > >moms) met with a

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders

early

> > >in the year &

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families)

using

> > >it. Reports

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a

> > >cellular basis with

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that

have

> > >had amazing

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues

> > >including a lab

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for

some

> > >time. He told me

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then

rerun

> > >the labs after

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found

> > >dramatic

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date

we've

> > >been using it 5

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall

body

> > >stress is

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is

doing

> > >really, really

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially &

> > >educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with

:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals

dumping

> > >that comes

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

> > >BioMedical

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side

> > >effects of a

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The

first

> > >couple of months

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in

OCD &

> > >some extra

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we

believe

> > >to be some

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his

1st

> > >year in Middle

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker

> > >combinations) & only

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building

with

> > >about 800 kids

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

> > >understatement…even

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also

> > >learning

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th

grade

> > >math curriculum…

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals

> > >movement has come

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for

us

> > >but definitely

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing

detox

> > >we ended up

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser

supports

> > >which we found

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our

binders

> > >(especially

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over

the

> > >kidneys

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our

Alfalfa &

> > >add extra

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals

in

> > >addition to

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're

talking

> > >cellular support

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20,

2011)

> > >of a Christmas

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It

was

> > >watered with 3

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month

that

> > >it was

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out &

it

> > >was put on his

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are

soft &

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the

neighborhood with

> > >our

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking

worse

> > >than this one. I

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no

joke. I

> > >am happy to

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green

Christmas

> > >tree that

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead

by

> > >now. Upon one

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from

seeing

> > >this tree she

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to

have it

> > >perk right

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on

animals

> > >including

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over

the

> > >years, I

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the

> > >product, mainly to

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

> > >lyme/co-infections or

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me

either on

> > >or off list.

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have

> > >used….it is

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including

animals &

> > >plants) w/an

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that

God

> > >gave us an

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune

systems

> > >that need to

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly

working

> > >immune

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance.

This

> > >product

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune

system

> > >to fight

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I

spoke

> > >with a woman

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of

weeks

> > >of doing real

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER

could

> > >figure out what

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal " they

> > >figured out that

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer

needed! The

> > >doctor

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on &

now she

> > >doing very

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of

stuff

> > > & find

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on

this

> > >product, look

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your

body no

> > >longer needs

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol

when

> > >using it (we

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support

> > >items)…. & as always

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as

it

> > >cycles through

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out.

Also,

> > >when ART testing

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on

board

> > >for the

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked

> > >other naturals

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them &

target

> > >items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk

to MP

> > >to review

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any

other

> > >docs that

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect

them

> > >w/either the

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am

> > >really excited

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I just wanted to update the group on one of the kids in WA that has been using

this...btw this child's (R's) mom is a pediatrician herself. When I met her on

one of the big groups she ended up living about 10 min from me so we met up last

fall. She had just started the GFCF in Sept/Oct.....her child was 3 and

basically non-verbal. She saw one of our docs & ran labs in Jan. She then

removed additional IgG/IgE food allergens & added HNI enzymes, probiotics &

Brainchild minerals. Feb - Apr she added OLE & PauDeArco, March she saw the live

Christmas tree & had a long talk w/one of the surfactant leaders...knowing about

surfactants from the rx side she started it right away. About 1 month later she

added Kangen water + CLO.

Long story short her son is now very verbal & she just got back some labs she

just had re-ran. R's IgE went from 555 down to 341 & the big one for her was his

Phos went from 1847 down to a normal 50 (his kidney's are much less

stressed!!!!). Also, his white blood cell went from below normal...has been

there for toooo long & he was always sick...into low normal...huge for his

mom!!!

RitaG

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the

company

> > > >but as a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought

I'd share

> > > >what we've

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving

the name

> > > >of the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the

product (see

> > > >link @

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

double-blind

> > > >studies that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be

happy

> > > >to answer

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect

the

> > > >product in this

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has

catapulted us

> > > >to a new level

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started

looking

> > > >into it last

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it

helps the

> > > >bodies immune

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

> > > >(including those that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach

themselves

> > > >to our DNA).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables

our

> > > >bodies to heal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate

invaders like

> > > >parasites &

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also

is used

> > > >to carry

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

> > > >difficult areas of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we

use it

> > > >together with the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very

successfully

> > > >used overseas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented

international

> > > >use….all with NO

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is

categorized

> > > >as a whole

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The

small

> > > >group of our

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the

ones

> > > >using it have

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for

either

> > > >topical or

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including

drinks it

> > > >right down & do

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am

concerned

> > > >about it w/

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice

is a

> > > >good option).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot

type

> > > >glass w/a small

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow

immediately w/a

> > > >full glass of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as

I want

> > > >to further

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an

OB RN

> > > > & a Pediatric

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help

> > > >increase the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical

> > > >arena….the dr. said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully

because

> > > >of the high

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to

general info

> > > >on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using

IS NOT

> > > >a rx or

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

> > > >current

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

> > > >Lyme….It's history is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

> > > >diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my

BioMedical

> > > >mindset

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists

autoimmune

> > > >related issues

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of

our

> > > >docs including

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL

on how

> > > >well he is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

> > > >docs….last month I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can

ask to

> > > >be ART

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme

savvy

> > > >moms) met with a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders

early

> > > >in the year &

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families)

using

> > > >it. Reports

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a

> > > >cellular basis with

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people

that have

> > > >had amazing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues

> > > >including a lab

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for

some

> > > >time. He told me

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then

rerun

> > > >the labs after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found

> > > >dramatic

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date

we've

> > > >been using it 5

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial &

overall body

> > > >stress is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is

doing

> > > >really, really

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially &

> > > >educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with

:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals

dumping

> > > >that comes

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

> > > >BioMedical

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the

side

> > > >effects of a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The

first

> > > >couple of months

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase

in OCD &

> > > >some extra

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we

believe

> > > >to be some

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is

his 1st

> > > >year in Middle

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker

> > > >combinations) & only

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building

with

> > > >about 800 kids

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

> > > >understatement…even

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also

> > > >learning

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th

grade

> > > >math curriculum…

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals

> > > >movement has come

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming

for us

> > > >but definitely

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing

detox

> > > >we ended up

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser

supports

> > > >which we found

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our

binders

> > > >(especially

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over

the

> > > >kidneys

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our

Alfalfa &

> > > >add extra

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life

Multi-minerals in

> > > >addition to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're

talking

> > > >cellular support

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20,

2011)

> > > >of a Christmas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It

was

> > > >watered with 3

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month

that

> > > >it was

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out

& it

> > > >was put on his

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are

soft &

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the

neighborhood with

> > > >our

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking

worse

> > > >than this one. I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no

joke. I

> > > >am happy to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green

Christmas

> > > >tree that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown &

dead by

> > > >now. Upon one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from

seeing

> > > >this tree she

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to

have it

> > > >perk right

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on

animals

> > > >including

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported

over the

> > > >years, I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the

> > > >product, mainly to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

> > > >lyme/co-infections or

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me

either on

> > > >or off list.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we

have

> > > >used….it is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including

animals &

> > > >plants) w/an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy

that God

> > > >gave us an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our

immune systems

> > > >that need to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly

working

> > > >immune

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made

assistance. This

> > > >product

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune

system

> > > >to fight

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I

spoke

> > > >with a woman

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of

weeks

> > > >of doing real

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER

could

> > > >figure out what

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal "

they

> > > >figured out that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer

needed! The

> > > >doctor

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on &

now she

> > > >doing very

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch

of stuff

> > > > & find

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on

this

> > > >product, look

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your

body no

> > > >longer needs

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested

protocol when

> > > >using it (we

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support

> > > >items)…. & as always

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes

as it

> > > >cycles through

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out.

Also,

> > > >when ART testing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are

on board

> > > >for the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have

piggybacked

> > > >other naturals

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them &

target

> > > >items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to

talk to MP

> > > >to review

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his

Zyto…..any other

> > > >docs that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect

them

> > > >w/either the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I

am

> > > >really excited

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Hey Rita Can i ask you about that product aswell i think i have read that same in other forum but i cant find the post im preaty shure and i have visit the site of the product but i cat seems to find it any more could you send me the details please .Thanks RalitsaSubject: Re: Info on the new product we've been usingTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tuesday, 19 July, 2011, 19:27

I just wanted to update the group on one of the kids in WA that has been using this...btw this child's (R's) mom is a pediatrician herself. When I met her on one of the big groups she ended up living about 10 min from me so we met up last fall. She had just started the GFCF in Sept/Oct.....her child was 3 and basically non-verbal. She saw one of our docs & ran labs in Jan. She then removed additional IgG/IgE food allergens & added HNI enzymes, probiotics & Brainchild minerals. Feb - Apr she added OLE & PauDeArco, March she saw the live Christmas tree & had a long talk w/one of the surfactant leaders...knowing about surfactants from the rx side she started it right away. About 1 month later she added Kangen water + CLO.

Long story short her son is now very verbal & she just got back some labs she just had re-ran. R's IgE went from 555 down to 341 & the big one for her was his Phos went from 1847 down to a normal 50 (his kidney's are much less stressed!!!!). Also, his white blood cell went from below normal...has been there for toooo long & he was always sick...into low normal...huge for his mom!!!

RitaG

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company

> > > >but as a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share

> > > >what we've

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name

> > > >of the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see

> > > >link @

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind

> > > >studies that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy

> > > >to answer

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the

> > > >product in this

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us

> > > >to a new level

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking

> > > >into it last

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the

> > > >bodies immune

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

> > > >(including those that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves

> > > >to our DNA).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our

> > > >bodies to heal

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like

> > > >parasites &

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used

> > > >to carry

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

> > > >difficult areas of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it

> > > >together with the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully

> > > >used overseas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international

> > > >use….all with NO

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized

> > > >as a whole

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small

> > > >group of our

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones

> > > >using it have

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either

> > > >topical or

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it

> > > >right down & do

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned

> > > >about it w/

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a

> > > >good option).

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type

> > > >glass w/a small

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a

> > > >full glass of

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want

> > > >to further

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN

> > > > & a Pediatric

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help

> > > >increase the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical

> > > >arena….the dr. said

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because

> > > >of the high

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info

> > > >on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT

> > > >a rx or

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

> > > >current

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

> > > >Lyme….It's history is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

> > > >diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical

> > > >mindset

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune

> > > >related issues

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our

> > > >docs including

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how

> > > >well he is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

> > > >docs….last month I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to

> > > >be ART

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy

> > > >moms) met with a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early

> > > >in the year &

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using

> > > >it. Reports

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a

> > > >cellular basis with

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have

> > > >had amazing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues

> > > >including a lab

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some

> > > >time. He told me

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun

> > > >the labs after

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found

> > > >dramatic

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've

> > > >been using it 5

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body

> > > >stress is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing

> > > >really, really

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially &

> > > >educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping

> > > >that comes

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

> > > >BioMedical

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side

> > > >effects of a

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first

> > > >couple of months

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD &

> > > >some extra

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe

> > > >to be some

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st

> > > >year in Middle

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker

> > > >combinations) & only

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with

> > > >about 800 kids

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

> > > >understatement…even

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also

> > > >learning

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade

> > > >math curriculum…

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals

> > > >movement has come

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us

> > > >but definitely

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox

> > > >we ended up

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports

> > > >which we found

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders

> > > >(especially

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the

> > > >kidneys

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa &

> > > >add extra

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in

> > > >addition to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking

> > > >cellular support

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011)

> > > >of a Christmas

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was

> > > >watered with 3

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that

> > > >it was

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it

> > > >was put on his

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with

> > > >our

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse

> > > >than this one. I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I

> > > >am happy to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas

> > > >tree that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by

> > > >now. Upon one

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing

> > > >this tree she

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it

> > > >perk right

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on animals

> > > >including

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the

> > > >years, I

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the

> > > >product, mainly to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

> > > >lyme/co-infections or

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on

> > > >or off list.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have

> > > >used….it is

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals &

> > > >plants) w/an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God

> > > >gave us an

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems

> > > >that need to

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working

> > > >immune

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This

> > > >product

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system

> > > >to fight

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke

> > > >with a woman

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks

> > > >of doing real

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could

> > > >figure out what

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they

> > > >figured out that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The

> > > >doctor

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she

> > > >doing very

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff

> > > > & find

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this

> > > >product, look

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no

> > > >longer needs

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when

> > > >using it (we

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support

> > > >items)…. & as always

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it

> > > >cycles through

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also,

> > > >when ART testing

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board

> > > >for the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked

> > > >other naturals

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target

> > > >items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP

> > > >to review

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other

> > > >docs that

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them

> > > >w/either the

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am

> > > >really excited

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Ralitsa,

I tried to attach this post to some of the prior thread so people could just

scroll down to read some of the prior posts on it...hope this helped some. I've

only posted info on this to 2 boards....it's on this group starting w/message

#25729 & MB12Valtrex starting w/message #106474(per my post log). With me being

as busy as I am right now I've not had time to check every post...but I have

periodically been advance searching " surfactants " since I've not been using it's

name to help me find anything that may have been missed....advance searching

this may help you also...

Here's the link to the surfactant product we have been using (I'm not using the

name of the product so it's harder to websearch this product on purpose):

http://immusist.com/index.html

Rita

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the

company

>

> > > > >but as a

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought

I'd share

>

> > > > >what we've

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving

the name

>

> > > > >of the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the

product (see

>

> > > > >link @

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

double-blind

>

> > > > >studies that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will

be happy

>

> > > > >to answer

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to

protect the

>

> > > > >product in this

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has

catapulted us

>

> > > > >to a new level

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started

looking

>

> > > > >into it last

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it

helps the

>

> > > > >bodies immune

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

>

> > > > >(including those that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach

themselves

>

> > > > >to our DNA).

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables

our

>

> > > > >bodies to heal

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate

invaders like

>

> > > > >parasites &

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also

is used

>

> > > > >to carry

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

>

> > > > >difficult areas of

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example,

we use it

>

> > > > >together with the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very

successfully

>

> > > > >used overseas

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented

international

>

> > > > >use….all with NO

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is

categorized

>

> > > > >as a whole

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes.

The small

>

> > > > >group of our

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far

the ones

>

> > > > >using it have

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for

either

>

> > > > >topical or

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including

drinks it

>

> > > > >right down & do

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am

concerned

>

> > > > >about it w/

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice

is a

>

> > > > >good option).

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little

shot type

>

> > > > >glass w/a small

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow

immediately w/a

>

> > > > >full glass of

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency

as I want

>

> > > > >to further

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is

an OB RN

>

> > > > > & a Pediatric

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to

help

>

> > > > >increase the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the

medical

>

> > > > >arena….the dr. said

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them

carefully because

>

> > > > >of the high

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to

general info

>

> > > > >on surfactants:

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

>

> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

>

> > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are

using IS NOT

>

> > > > >a rx or

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

>

> > > > >current

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

>

> > > > >Lyme….It's history is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

>

> > > > >diseases….didn't stop me!

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with

my BioMedical

>

> > > > >mindset

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists

autoimmune

>

> > > > >related issues

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all

of our

>

> > > > >docs including

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from

ALL on how

>

> > > > >well he is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

>

> > > > >docs….last month I

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you

can ask to

>

> > > > >be ART

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme

savvy

>

> > > > >moms) met with a

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its

founders early

>

> > > > >in the year &

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( &

families) using

>

> > > > >it. Reports

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on

a

>

> > > > >cellular basis with

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people

that have

>

> > > > >had amazing

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune

issues

>

> > > > >including a lab

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for

some

>

> > > > >time. He told me

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then

rerun

>

> > > > >the labs after

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have

found

>

> > > > >dramatic

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date

we've

>

> > > > >been using it 5

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial &

overall body

>

> > > > >stress is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is

doing

>

> > > > >really, really

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially

&

>

> > > > >educationally.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with

:

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the

metals dumping

>

> > > > >that comes

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

>

> > > > >BioMedical

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the

side

>

> > > > >effects of a

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different.

The first

>

> > > > >couple of months

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase

in OCD &

>

> > > > >some extra

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra

frustration we believe

>

> > > > >to be some

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is

his 1st

>

> > > > >year in Middle

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3

locker

>

> > > > >combinations) & only

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school

building with

>

> > > > >about 800 kids

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

>

> > > > >understatement…even

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's

also

>

> > > > >learning

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th

grade

>

> > > > >math curriculum…

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic

metals

>

> > > > >movement has come

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming

for us

>

> > > > >but definitely

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the

continuing detox

>

> > > > >we ended up

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser

supports

>

> > > > >which we found

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our

binders

>

> > > > >(especially

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed

over the

>

> > > > >kidneys

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our

Alfalfa &

>

> > > > >add extra

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life

Multi-minerals in

>

> > > > >addition to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is

amazing….we're talking

>

> > > > >cellular support

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April

20, 2011)

>

> > > > >of a Christmas

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec.

It was

>

> > > > >watered with 3

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1

month that

>

> > > > >it was

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped

out & it

>

> > > > >was put on his

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles

are soft &

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the

neighborhood with

>

> > > > >our

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking

worse

>

> > > > >than this one. I

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this

is no joke. I

>

> > > > >am happy to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green

Christmas

>

> > > > >tree that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown &

dead by

>

> > > > >now. Upon one

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from

seeing

>

> > > > >this tree she

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to

have it

>

> > > > >perk right

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on

animals

>

> > > > >including

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported

over the

>

> > > > >years, I

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use

the

>

> > > > >product, mainly to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

>

> > > > >lyme/co-infections or

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me

either on

>

> > > > >or off list.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we

have

>

> > > > >used….it is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including

animals &

>

> > > > >plants) w/an

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy

that God

>

> > > > >gave us an

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our

immune systems

>

> > > > >that need to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a

properly working

>

> > > > >immune

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made

assistance. This

>

> > > > >product

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given

immune system

>

> > > > >to fight

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I

spoke

>

> > > > >with a woman

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple

of weeks

>

> > > > >of doing real

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER

could

>

> > > > >figure out what

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal "

they

>

> > > > >figured out that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer

needed! The

>

> > > > >doctor

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on

& now she

>

> > > > >doing very

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch

of stuff

>

> > > > > & find

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time

on this

>

> > > > >product, look

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if

your body no

>

> > > > >longer needs

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested

protocol when

>

> > > > >using it (we

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food

support

>

> > > > >items)…. & as always

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes

as it

>

> > > > >cycles through

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out.

Also,

>

> > > > >when ART testing

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are

on board

>

> > > > >for the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have

piggybacked

>

> > > > >other naturals

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them &

target

>

> > > > >items.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like

to talk to MP

>

> > > > >to review

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his

Zyto…..any other

>

> > > > >docs that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect

them

>

> > > > >w/either the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I

am

>

> > > > >really excited

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

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Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the

company

> > > > >but as a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought

I'd share

> > > > >what we've

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving

the name

> > > > >of the

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the

product (see

> > > > >link @

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

double-blind

> > > > >studies that

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will

be happy

> > > > >to answer

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to

protect the

> > > > >product in this

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has

catapulted us

> > > > >to a new level

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started

looking

> > > > >into it last

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it

helps the

> > > > >bodies immune

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

> > > > >(including those that

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach

themselves

> > > > >to our DNA).

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which enables

our

> > > > >bodies to heal

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate

invaders like

> > > > >parasites &

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also

is used

> > > > >to carry

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

> > > > >difficult areas of

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we

use it

> > > > >together with the

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very

successfully

> > > > >used overseas

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented

international

> > > > >use….all with NO

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is

categorized

> > > > >as a whole

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes.

The small

> > > > >group of our

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far

the ones

> > > > >using it have

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for

either

> > > > >topical or

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including

drinks it

> > > > >right down & do

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am

concerned

> > > > >about it w/

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice

is a

> > > > >good option).

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little

shot type

> > > > >glass w/a small

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow

immediately w/a

> > > > >full glass of

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency

as I want

> > > > >to further

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is

an OB RN

> > > > > & a Pediatric

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to

help

> > > > >increase the

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the

medical

> > > > >arena….the dr. said

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them

carefully because

> > > > >of the high

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to

general info

> > > > >on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are

using IS NOT

> > > > >a rx or

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

> > > > >current

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

> > > > >Lyme….It's history is

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

> > > > >diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my

BioMedical

> > > > >mindset

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists

autoimmune

> > > > >related issues

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all

of our

> > > > >docs including

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from

ALL on how

> > > > >well he is

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

> > > > >docs….last month I

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you

can ask to

> > > > >be ART

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme

savvy

> > > > >moms) met with a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its

founders early

> > > > >in the year &

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( &

families) using

> > > > >it. Reports

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on

a

> > > > >cellular basis with

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people

that have

> > > > >had amazing

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune

issues

> > > > >including a lab

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for

some

> > > > >time. He told me

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then

rerun

> > > > >the labs after

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have

found

> > > > >dramatic

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date

we've

> > > > >been using it 5

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial &

overall body

> > > > >stress is

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is

doing

> > > > >really, really

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially

&

> > > > >educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with

:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the

metals dumping

> > > > >that comes

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

> > > > >BioMedical

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the

side

> > > > >effects of a

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The

first

> > > > >couple of months

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase

in OCD &

> > > > >some extra

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration

we believe

> > > > >to be some

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is

his 1st

> > > > >year in Middle

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3

locker

> > > > >combinations) & only

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school

building with

> > > > >about 800 kids

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

> > > > >understatement…even

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's

also

> > > > >learning

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th

grade

> > > > >math curriculum…

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic

metals

> > > > >movement has come

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming

for us

> > > > >but definitely

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the

continuing detox

> > > > >we ended up

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser

supports

> > > > >which we found

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our

binders

> > > > >(especially

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed

over the

> > > > >kidneys

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our

Alfalfa &

> > > > >add extra

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life

Multi-minerals in

> > > > >addition to

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're

talking

> > > > >cellular support

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April

20, 2011)

> > > > >of a Christmas

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec.

It was

> > > > >watered with 3

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1

month that

> > > > >it was

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped

out & it

> > > > >was put on his

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles

are soft &

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the

neighborhood with

> > > > >our

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking

worse

> > > > >than this one. I

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is

no joke. I

> > > > >am happy to

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green

Christmas

> > > > >tree that

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown &

dead by

> > > > >now. Upon one

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from

seeing

> > > > >this tree she

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant to

have it

> > > > >perk right

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on

animals

> > > > >including

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported

over the

> > > > >years, I

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use

the

> > > > >product, mainly to

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

> > > > >lyme/co-infections or

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me

either on

> > > > >or off list.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we

have

> > > > >used….it is

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including

animals &

> > > > >plants) w/an

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy

that God

> > > > >gave us an

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our

immune systems

> > > > >that need to

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a

properly working

> > > > >immune

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made

assistance. This

> > > > >product

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given

immune system

> > > > >to fight

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I

spoke

> > > > >with a woman

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple

of weeks

> > > > >of doing real

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER

could

> > > > >figure out what

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal "

they

> > > > >figured out that

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer

needed! The

> > > > >doctor

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on

& now she

> > > > >doing very

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch

of stuff

> > > > > & find

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time

on this

> > > > >product, look

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if

your body no

> > > > >longer needs

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested

protocol when

> > > > >using it (we

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food

support

> > > > >items)…. & as always

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes

as it

> > > > >cycles through

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out.

Also,

> > > > >when ART testing

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are

on board

> > > > >for the

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have

piggybacked

> > > > >other naturals

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them &

target

> > > > >items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to

talk to MP

> > > > >to review

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his

Zyto…..any other

> > > > >docs that

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect

them

> > > > >w/either the

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I

am

> > > > >really excited

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Thank you very much Rita Subject: Re: Info on the new product we've been usingTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wednesday, 20 July, 2011, 7:27

Ralitsa,

I tried to attach this post to some of the prior thread so people could just scroll down to read some of the prior posts on it...hope this helped some. I've only posted info on this to 2 boards....it's on this group starting w/message #25729 & MB12Valtrex starting w/message #106474(per my post log). With me being as busy as I am right now I've not had time to check every post...but I have periodically been advance searching "surfactants" since I've not been using it's name to help me find anything that may have been missed....advance searching this may help you also...

Here's the link to the surfactant product we have been using (I'm not using the name of the product so it's harder to websearch this product on purpose):

http://immusist.com/index.html

Rita

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company

>

> > > > >but as a

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share

>

> > > > >what we've

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name

>

> > > > >of the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see

>

> > > > >link @

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind

>

> > > > >studies that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy

>

> > > > >to answer

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the

>

> > > > >product in this

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us

>

> > > > >to a new level

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking

>

> > > > >into it last

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the

>

> > > > >bodies immune

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites

>

> > > > >(including those that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves

>

> > > > >to our DNA).

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our

>

> > > > >bodies to heal

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like

>

> > > > >parasites &

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used

>

> > > > >to carry

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into

>

> > > > >difficult areas of

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it

>

> > > > >together with the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully

>

> > > > >used overseas

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international

>

> > > > >use….all with NO

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized

>

> > > > >as a whole

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small

>

> > > > >group of our

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones

>

> > > > >using it have

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either

>

> > > > >topical or

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it

>

> > > > >right down & do

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned

>

> > > > >about it w/

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a

>

> > > > >good option).

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type

>

> > > > >glass w/a small

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a

>

> > > > >full glass of

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want

>

> > > > >to further

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN

>

> > > > > & a Pediatric

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help

>

> > > > >increase the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical

>

> > > > >arena….the dr. said

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because

>

> > > > >of the high

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info

>

> > > > >on surfactants:

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

>

> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

>

> > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT

>

> > > > >a rx or

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some

>

> > > > >current

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or

>

> > > > >Lyme….It's history is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

>

> > > > >diseases….didn't stop me!

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical

>

> > > > >mindset

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune

>

> > > > >related issues

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our

>

> > > > >docs including

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how

>

> > > > >well he is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our

>

> > > > >docs….last month I

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to

>

> > > > >be ART

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy

>

> > > > >moms) met with a

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early

>

> > > > >in the year &

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using

>

> > > > >it. Reports

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a

>

> > > > >cellular basis with

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have

>

> > > > >had amazing

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues

>

> > > > >including a lab

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some

>

> > > > >time. He told me

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun

>

> > > > >the labs after

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found

>

> > > > >dramatic

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've

>

> > > > >been using it 5

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body

>

> > > > >stress is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing

>

> > > > >really, really

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially &

>

> > > > >educationally.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping

>

> > > > >that comes

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of

>

> > > > >BioMedical

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side

>

> > > > >effects of a

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first

>

> > > > >couple of months

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD &

>

> > > > >some extra

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe

>

> > > > >to be some

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st

>

> > > > >year in Middle

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker

>

> > > > >combinations) & only

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with

>

> > > > >about 800 kids

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an

>

> > > > >understatement…even

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also

>

> > > > >learning

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade

>

> > > > >math curriculum…

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals

>

> > > > >movement has come

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us

>

> > > > >but definitely

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox

>

> > > > >we ended up

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports

>

> > > > >which we found

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders

>

> > > > >(especially

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the

>

> > > > >kidneys

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa &

>

> > > > >add extra

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in

>

> > > > >addition to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking

>

> > > > >cellular support

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011)

>

> > > > >of a Christmas

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was

>

> > > > >watered with 3

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that

>

> > > > >it was

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it

>

> > > > >was put on his

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with

>

> > > > >our

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse

>

> > > > >than this one. I

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I

>

> > > > >am happy to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas

>

> > > > >tree that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by

>

> > > > >now. Upon one

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing

>

> > > > >this tree she

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it

>

> > > > >perk right

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully on animals

>

> > > > >including

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the

>

> > > > >years, I

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the

>

> > > > >product, mainly to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD,

>

> > > > >lyme/co-infections or

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on

>

> > > > >or off list.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have

>

> > > > >used….it is

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals &

>

> > > > >plants) w/an

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God

>

> > > > >gave us an

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems

>

> > > > >that need to

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working

>

> > > > >immune

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This

>

> > > > >product

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system

>

> > > > >to fight

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke

>

> > > > >with a woman

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks

>

> > > > >of doing real

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could

>

> > > > >figure out what

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they

>

> > > > >figured out that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The

>

> > > > >doctor

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she

>

> > > > >doing very

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff

>

> > > > > & find

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this

>

> > > > >product, look

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no

>

> > > > >longer needs

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when

>

> > > > >using it (we

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support

>

> > > > >items)…. & as always

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it

>

> > > > >cycles through

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also,

>

> > > > >when ART testing

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board

>

> > > > >for the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked

>

> > > > >other naturals

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target

>

> > > > >items.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP

>

> > > > >to review

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other

>

> > > > >docs that

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them

>

> > > > >w/either the

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am

>

> > > > >really excited

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

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I'll confirm w/her in a few days I'll be talking w/her again...if I remember

correctly she went from 3 drops 2x day to 5 drops 2xday & I believe she's been

holding there...

RitaG

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of

the company

> > > > > >but as a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I

thought I'd share

> > > > > >what we've

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am

leaving the name

> > > > > >of the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the

product (see

> > > > > >link @

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of

double-blind

> > > > > >studies that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will

be happy

> > > > > >to answer

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to

protect the

> > > > > >product in this

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has

catapulted us

> > > > > >to a new level

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started

looking

> > > > > >into it last

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it

helps the

> > > > > >bodies immune

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria &

parasites

> > > > > >(including those that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach

themselves

> > > > > >to our DNA).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It " turns on " the immune system which

enables our

> > > > > >bodies to heal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate

invaders like

> > > > > >parasites &

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It

also is used

> > > > > >to carry

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements)

into

> > > > > >difficult areas of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example,

we use it

> > > > > >together with the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very

successfully

> > > > > >used overseas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented

international

> > > > > >use….all with NO

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is

categorized

> > > > > >as a whole

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes.

The small

> > > > > >group of our

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far

the ones

> > > > > >using it have

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved

for either

> > > > > >topical or

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including

drinks it

> > > > > >right down & do

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am

concerned

> > > > > >about it w/

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with

juice is a

> > > > > >good option).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little

shot type

> > > > > >glass w/a small

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow

immediately w/a

> > > > > >full glass of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of

Emergency as I want

> > > > > >to further

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there

is an OB RN

> > > > > > & a Pediatric

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to

help

> > > > > >increase the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the

medical

> > > > > >arena….the dr. said

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them

carefully because

> > > > > >of the high

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to

general info

> > > > > >on surfactants:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants:

> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants:

> > > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are

using IS NOT

> > > > > >a rx or

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you

some

> > > > > >current

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD

or

> > > > > >Lyme….It's history is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related

> > > > > >diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with

my BioMedical

> > > > > >mindset

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists

autoimmune

> > > > > >related issues

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen

all of our

> > > > > >docs including

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from

ALL on how

> > > > > >well he is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see

our

> > > > > >docs….last month I

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you

can ask to

> > > > > >be ART

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme

savvy

> > > > > >moms) met with a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its

founders early

> > > > > >in the year &

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( &

families) using

> > > > > >it. Reports

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing

on a

> > > > > >cellular basis with

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to

people that have

> > > > > >had amazing

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune

issues

> > > > > >including a lab

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it

for some

> > > > > >time. He told me

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run,

then rerun

> > > > > >the labs after

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have

found

> > > > > >dramatic

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To

date we've

> > > > > >been using it 5

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial &

overall body

> > > > > >stress is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He

is doing

> > > > > >really, really

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically,

socially &

> > > > > >educationally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with

:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the

metals dumping

> > > > > >that comes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years

of

> > > > > >BioMedical

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with

the side

> > > > > >effects of a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different.

The first

> > > > > >couple of months

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some

increase in OCD &

> > > > > >some extra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra

frustration we believe

> > > > > >to be some

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this

is his 1st

> > > > > >year in Middle

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3

locker

> > > > > >combinations) & only

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school

building with

> > > > > >about 800 kids

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is

an

> > > > > >understatement…even

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's

also

> > > > > >learning

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in

6th grade

> > > > > >math curriculum…

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic

metals

> > > > > >movement has come

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not

overwhelming for us

> > > > > >but definitely

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the

continuing detox

> > > > > >we ended up

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser

supports

> > > > > >which we found

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our

binders

> > > > > >(especially

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed

over the

> > > > > >kidneys

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our

Alfalfa &

> > > > > >add extra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life

Multi-minerals in

> > > > > >addition to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is

amazing….we're talking

> > > > > >cellular support

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April

20, 2011)

> > > > > >of a Christmas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of

Dec. It was

> > > > > >watered with 3

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1

month that

> > > > > >it was

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped

out & it

> > > > > >was put on his

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles

are soft &

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the

neighborhood with

> > > > > >our

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year

looking worse

> > > > > >than this one. I

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is

no joke. I

> > > > > >am happy to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green

Christmas

> > > > > >tree that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown

& dead by

> > > > > >now. Upon one

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from

seeing

> > > > > >this tree she

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watered her " not-doing-so-well " basil plant

to have it

> > > > > >perk right

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up :o) This is also being used successfully

on animals

> > > > > >including

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have

supported over the

> > > > > >years, I

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use

the

> > > > > >product, mainly to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the

ASD,

> > > > > >lyme/co-infections or

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact

me either on

> > > > > >or off list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product

we have

> > > > > >used….it is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including

animals &

> > > > > >plants) w/an

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy

that God

> > > > > >gave us an

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our

immune systems

> > > > > >that need to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a

properly working

> > > > > >immune

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made

assistance. This

> > > > > >product

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given

immune system

> > > > > >to fight

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this

I spoke

> > > > > >with a woman

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a

couple of weeks

> > > > > >of doing real

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the

ER could

> > > > > >figure out what

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were " normal "

they

> > > > > >figured out that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer

needed! The

> > > > > >doctor

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was

on & now she

> > > > > >doing very

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a

bunch of stuff

> > > > > > & find

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time

on this

> > > > > >product, look

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if

your body no

> > > > > >longer needs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested

protocol when

> > > > > >using it (we

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food

support

> > > > > >items)…. & as always

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related

changes as it

> > > > > >cycles through

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning

out. Also,

> > > > > >when ART testing

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders

are on board

> > > > > >for the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have

piggybacked

> > > > > >other naturals

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them

& target

> > > > > >items.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like

to talk to MP

> > > > > >to review

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his

Zyto…..any other

> > > > > >docs that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally

connect them

> > > > > >w/either the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them.

I am

> > > > > >really excited

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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