Re: Questions about Valtrex and living in the mountains

June 22, 2011

Wow, what a wonderful trip! Krassi, you must tell me where your family went and

where you stayed during the trip. I am curious to check it out ourselves to see

if we see anything different in our son.

In the mountains, there are usually bountiful life forms, living organisms. I

imagine that the frequencies might be very different than those at home. We,

humans are part of the nature, and should not live isolated from it as the

modern life style has us. What the nature provides might just be the missing

frequencies we need to expose ourself to for a better health. Just thinking out

loud here...

Limin

> Dear group,

> I was wondering if I can get some of your thoughts on two things that I have

been wondering lately:

> 1. As per blood and ART testing my son showed high viral and he was prescribed

Valtrex 250mg/3 times a day (38 pounds body weight) plus Diflucan tiwce daily.

He has been on this dose for already 3 months and I don't see any dramatic

changes yet – my son is still extremely sensory (he wears non-stop socks and

shoes or slippers when inside the house, even when he sleeps and he would throw

huge tantrum if they are missing), still no changes in speech and simply my high

expactations for this anti-viral didn't come true. He is more aware and more

affectionate with us, but I am not sure even if this is from Valtrex or the

other things we are giving him. Our trial period is 6 months, so we have 3 more

months to go, but I wanted to hear if anybody else has had similar experience

and the positives came much after the 3 months?

> 2. My second question is related with our vacation that we had last week and I

still cannot stop thinking about what happened and what action we should take in

the future. We went for 5 days very high on the mountains (close to 7500 feet

elevation) with very fresh and clean air, very clean lake and sand, no wireless

was working, simply isolated from the whole city world that we normally live in.

I was stunned to see that my son's sensory and OCD almost compltely disappered

while there. He was walking bare feet (this hasn't happened for the past 2

years, as I mentioned he is terrified to be without socks and shoes or slippers

on top of the socks) and he was not holding his 5 toys that he holds non-stop in

his hands and about which he is totally obsessed, even when he sleeps. Simply

his autistic/PANDAS symptoms almost complteley disappered, he was happy, playing

in the sand, very excited kid – he looked like the boy he used to be before he

regressed. We haven't changed anything else – he was taking the same

supplements, the same organic low oxalates food, the only change was the

environment as I said. It was such a pleasure watching my son there, I was

hoping the improvements we are seeing in the mountain will hold even when we

come back home. However since we are back all his sensory and OCD are back full

gear. So I cannot stop wondering – we are pooring and spending all this money

and energy in his treatments and many supplements and still not seeing any

dramatic changes. However, simply changing the environment with much cleaner

made the dramatic changes for such a short time.

> What I am missing and how I can make our home here as clean as the home high

in the mountains? Is it even possible?

> Our home doesn't have any wireless either and we have the canopy around my

son's bed against EMR, he has earthing sheets, we have propolis vaporizers

against mold in the rooms, we have water filters and RO for drinking water, what

am I missing?

> Sorry for the long post, I was just wondering if anybody else has noticed

changes when you are in the mountain. May be the answer is the high altitude,

may be simply people living in higher altitudes are healthier and less autistic?

What do you think?

> Thanks,

> Krassi

>

> ------------------------------------

>

June 22, 2011

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Dear group,

I was wondering if I can get some of your thoughts on two things that I have been wondering lately:

1. As per blood and ART testing my son showed high viral and he was prescribed Valtrex 250mg/3 times a day (38 pounds body weight) plus Diflucan tiwce daily. He has been on this dose for already 3 months and I don't see any dramatic changes yet â€“ my son is still extremely sensory (he wears non-stop socks and shoes or slippers when inside the house, even when he sleeps and he would throw huge tantrum if they are missing), still no changes in speech and simply my high expactations for this anti-viral didn't come true. He is more aware and more affectionate with us, but I am not sure even if this is from Valtrex or the other things we are giving him. Our trial period is 6 months, so we have 3 more months to go, but I wanted to hear if anybody else has had similar experience and the positives came much after the 3 months?

2. My second question is related with our vacation that we had last week and I still cannot stop thinking about what happened and what action we should take in the future. We went for 5 days very high on the mountains (close to 7500 feet elevation) with very fresh and clean air, very clean lake and sand, no wireless was working, simply isolated from the whole city world that we normally live in. I was stunned to see that my son's sensory and OCD almost compltely disappered while there. He was walking bare feet (this hasn't happened for the past 2 years, as I mentioned he is terrified to be without socks and shoes or slippers on top of the socks) and he was not holding his 5 toys that he holds non-stop in his hands and about which he is totally obsessed, even when he sleeps. Simply his autistic/PANDAS symptoms almost complteley disappered, he was happy, playing in the sand, very excited kid â€“ he looked like the boy he used to be before he regressed. We

haven't changed anything else â€“ he was taking the same supplements, the same organic low oxalates food, the only change was the environment as I said. It was such a pleasure watching my son there, I was hoping the improvements we are seeing in the mountain will hold even when we come back home. However since we are back all his sensory and OCD are back full gear. So I cannot stop wondering â€“ we are pooring and spending all this money and energy in his treatments and many supplements and still not seeing any dramatic changes. However, simply changing the environment with much cleaner made the dramatic changes for such a short time.

What I am missing and how I can make our home here as clean as the home high in the mountains? Is it even possible?

Our home doesn't have any wireless either and we have the canopy around my son's bed against EMR, he has earthing sheets, we have propolis vaporizers against mold in the rooms, we have water filters and RO for drinking water, what am I missing?

Sorry for the long post, I was just wondering if anybody else has noticed changes when you are in the mountain. May be the answer is the high altitude, may be simply people living in higher altitudes are healthier and less autistic? What do you think?

Thanks,

Krassi

June 23, 2011

I have seen several people post the same thing - symptoms leave during

vacation. I wish it was only the clean air, because we could all install

air filters and then our kids would be well. It is actually partly the

cleaner environment, but unfortunately I think it's more likely

pleomorphic pathogens. They often change (hibernate or get weaker) upon

a new environment, but then after a short period of time, symptoms come

back, pointing to them probably regaining their foot-hold. Obsessive

behaviors are often talked about being related to Bartonella, and the

need for pressure (socks) seems to be related to Lyme. At least several

of those with Lyme have talked about it. Weird actually -- don't like

touch, but like pressure.

I will say though, that maybe your house is full of electrosmog,

out-gassing or mold. The A/C in our cars and central air unit in my

house, contain mold, and I have to monthly put vinegar in them as

directed by the A/C maintenance people. Thus, I must say that it could

be the house as well, or even both a cleaner (less mold and electrosmog)

house and environment. Some houses have electrical shorts in the wiring

or even are in a spot where they get extra wireless bombardment. I

bought one of those gauges that detects wireless, and it beeps the

loudest when I point it towards one particular neighbor. His whole

family always acts nervous - females don't leave the house, and he

freaks out if anyone mows an inch into his yard. He even put up lines to

show the boundary. It definitely appears that spirochete bacteria (Lyme,

Bartonella) grow strong in electrosmog environments, and I have seen

some reports by professionals that they feel this is so. Oddly, once I

saw a report of a child who was placed into long-term residential

treatment. They made no changes to his meds, and he recovered. When he

went home, his symptoms returned. He went back to the treatment place,

and recovered again, and stayed recovered for many months (at the time

of the report to the news). So, this tells me that the house was a high

concern or maybe something he ate there. It's so complicated. I guess

you could try visiting other places nearby to see if his symptoms

decrease as well.

My kids always got better during the summer and always get worse at

school. As a matter of fact, you can quadruple their symptoms the second

they walk into a school or other environment with those fluorescent

lights. Not anymore, but this was in the past. So, I think that our kids

are very sensitive to everything when they are ill, because they are

struggling in so many ways. But, I must also add, that when I wear

respirator masks (when I paint) for like several hours that day, I

usually feel great and more energy. This definitely does make me wonder

if the air, itself, is causing a lot of problems. What a toxic world we

live in.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Dear group,

I was wondering if I can get some of your thoughts on two things that I

have been wondering lately:

1. As per blood and ART testing my son showed high viral and he was

prescribed Valtrex 250mg/3 times a day (38 pounds body weight) plus

Diflucan tiwce daily. He has been on this dose for already 3 months and

I don't see any dramatic changes yet – my son is still extremely sensory

(he wears non-stop socks and shoes or slippers when inside the house,

even when he sleeps and he would throw huge tantrum if they are

missing), still no changes in speech and simply my high expactations for

this anti-viral didn't come true. He is more aware and more affectionate

with us, but I am not sure even if this is from Valtrex or the other

things we are giving him. Our trial period is 6 months, so we have 3

more months to go, but I wanted to hear if anybody else has had similar

experience and the positives came much after the 3 months?

2. My second question is related with our vacation that we had last week

and I still cannot stop thinking about what happened and what action we

should take in the future. We went for 5 days very high on the mountains

(close to 7500 feet elevation) with very fresh and clean air, very clean

lake and sand, no wireless was working, simply isolated from the whole

city world that we normally live in. I was stunned to see that my son's

sensory and OCD almost compltely disappered while there. He was walking

bare feet (this hasn't happened for the past 2 years, as I mentioned he

is terrified to be without socks and shoes or slippers on top of the

socks) and he was not holding his 5 toys that he holds non-stop in his

hands and about which he is totally obsessed, even when he sleeps.

Simply his autistic/PANDAS symptoms almost complteley disappered, he was

happy, playing in the sand, very excited kid – he looked like the boy he

used to be before he regressed. We haven't changed anything else – he

was taking the same supplements, the same organic low oxalates food, the

only change was the environment as I said. It was such a pleasure

watching my son there, I was hoping the improvements we are seeing in

the mountain will hold even when we come back home. However since we are

back all his sensory and OCD are back full gear. So I cannot stop

wondering – we are pooring and spending all this money and energy in his

treatments and many supplements and still not seeing any dramatic

changes. However, simply changing the environment with much cleaner made

the dramatic changes for such a short time.

What I am missing and how I can make our home here as clean as the home

high in the mountains? Is it even possible?

Our home doesn't have any wireless either and we have the canopy around

my son's bed against EMR, he has earthing sheets, we have propolis

vaporizers against mold in the rooms, we have water filters and RO for

drinking water, what am I missing?

Sorry for the long post, I was just wondering if anybody else has

noticed changes when you are in the mountain. May be the answer is the

high altitude, may be simply people living in higher altitudes are

healthier and less autistic? What do you think?

Thanks,

Krassi

June 23, 2011

I think its mostly high-altitude, that made the difference. Could you please

tell where exactly you went? I know dr. K couldnt find high enough and clean

enough place anywhere in America, may be he missed something? Russians

experimented with this after Chernobyl and got great results. I heard about

group of terminally ill from radiation people went up the mountains for few

weeks and returned healthy. I think it's called hypoksitherapy...sorry read

about it in russian. I read it has to be at least 2 weeks at altitude above 6

thousand feet to achive long-lasting results. I was only able to find such place

in my country, Kazakhstan, and wanted to take my son there, but it turmed out to

too expensive with air tickets...

Please, share the location!

Dina.