Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 As per Payne surfactants wash the cells. He says it tastes like soap and helps to shift the immune system - Immusist Hey everyone, I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system. Thanks, Mason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Another thing it does is to improve circlulation. I talked to one of the makers of the product today, and he compared it to water running through a pipe. If you add surfactant to the water, you can get more water through. Since the body is mostly water...you get the idea. He also mentioned that it's really good at helping the body get rid of viruses. My son's progress has also really exploded while using Lutimax, the surfactant, and MSM. He seems to need all three. The surfactant probably helps the Lutimax get where it needs to go, and the MSM helps him process the phenols in the Lutimax. Bethany > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system. > > Thanks, > > Mason > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 1. On another yahoo group, they had a thread where they discussed the side-effects of luteoilin, saying that it is a phyto-estrogen and can cause seizures. Some cursory research on the net shows that it does contain phyto-estrogens - can these really cause seizures/ 2. What is a surfactant? Thank you--- Στις ΠαÏ., 10/06/11, ο/η bethany_stringham ÎγÏαψε: Από: bethany_stringham ΘÎμα: Re: Immune BoostersÎ Ïος: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ΗμεÏομηνία: ΠαÏασκευή, 10 ΙοÏνιος 2011, 21:57 Another thing it does is to improve circlulation. I talked to one of the makers of the product today, and he compared it to water running through a pipe. If you add surfactant to the water, you can get more water through. Since the body is mostly water...you get the idea. He also mentioned that it's really good at helping the body get rid of viruses.My son's progress has also really exploded while using Lutimax, the surfactant, and MSM. He seems to need all three. The surfactant probably helps the Lutimax get where it needs to go, and the MSM helps him process the phenols in the Lutimax. Bethany>> > > > > > Hey everyone,> > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system.> > Thanks,> > Mason> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 I have not heard of lutimax causing seizures, but I know some have their children on MSM to help block the Phyto-estrogen. I have observed only good results so far with Luitmax, but everyone is different. A surfantant is a surfantant blend found in the product immunist. Some of the parents are using it, I am thinking about buying it. To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism From: etsadaris@...Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:00:03 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Immune Boosters 1. On another yahoo group, they had a thread where they discussed the side-effects of luteoilin, saying that it is a phyto-estrogen and can cause seizures. Some cursory research on the net shows that it does contain phyto-estrogens - can these really cause seizures/ 2. What is a surfactant? Thank you--- Óôéò Ðáñ., 10/06/11, ï/ç bethany_stringham Ýãñáøå: Áðü: bethany_stringham ÈÝìá: Re: Immune BoostersÐñïò: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Çìåñïìçíßá: ÐáñáóêåõÞ, 10 Éïýíéïò 2011, 21:57 Another thing it does is to improve circlulation. I talked to one of the makers of the product today, and he compared it to water running through a pipe. If you add surfactant to the water, you can get more water through. Since the body is mostly water...you get the idea. He also mentioned that it's really good at helping the body get rid of viruses.My son's progress has also really exploded while using Lutimax, the surfactant, and MSM. He seems to need all three. The surfactant probably helps the Lutimax get where it needs to go, and the MSM helps him process the phenols in the Lutimax. Bethany>> > > > > > Hey everyone,> > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system.> > Thanks,> > Mason> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 What I know is that it has done wonders for my girl, so all I can say is that it's the best thing for her anger. Keep in mind that any product you look up can have a lot of bad things said about it. You would be very surprised at what you can find on things that people take every day. Google " Lutimax seizures forums " to see if any parents reported seizures from it. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mason > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Could someone please explain what a surfectant is and does and why it is important in this battle to be healthy? Thanks so much, in Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mason > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 We saw increased absence seizures with NeuroProtek no gains then tried lutimax, no gains, no seizures > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > > > > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mason > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Chemically speaking, a surfactanct is a substance which basically is different in every combination but can range from fats to ethers and lauryls, depending on the base. A surfactant is basically a soap.... So look at it as something that will slowly "wash" the inner environment, the cells. If you want to learn more about surfactants and its application in medicine, you can read different studies at www.dmso.org. Dmso is a surfactant that has been used for some time in alternative medicine and a few procedures in allopathic medicine. It is an immune assistant Pls share w us if u have further comments, different individuals reading the same text is a proven technique to not oversee any detailsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:32:15 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Immune Boosters Could someone please explain what a surfectant is and does and why it is important in this battle to be healthy?Thanks so much, in Tx> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone,> > > > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Mason> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Isa, is DMSA also a surfectant, something which grabs on to (chelates/breaks up) chemical bonds and allows unhelpful (what if helpful stuff gets washed away with the bad stuff? deficiencies?) stuff to dissolve and be carried away? DMSA, succinic acid derived from 250 mg. DMSA, by Thorne, is one form of oral chelation, used in chelating heavy metals out of the body. Thank you for your helpful and compassionate posts.From: "isaguzmandiaz2@..." To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 4:28:08 PMSubject: Re: Re: Immune Boosters Chemically speaking, a surfactanct is a substance which basically is different in every combination but can range from fats to ethers and lauryls, depending on the base. A surfactant is basically a soap.... So look at it as something that will slowly "wash" the inner environment, the cells. If you want to learn more about surfactants and its application in medicine, you can read different studies at www.dmso.org. Dmso is a surfactant that has been used for some time in alternative medicine and a few procedures in allopathic medicine. It is an immune assistant Pls share w us if u have further comments, different individuals reading the same text is a proven technique to not oversee any detailsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:32:15 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Immune Boosters Could someone please explain what a surfectant is and does and why it is important in this battle to be healthy? Thanks so much, in Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mason > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Hi JeanetteNo, DMSA is not a surfactant, it is certainly as you say, a chelator. Dimecarpto Succinic Acid is used both as a chelator and antioxidant (due to its ability to attract and drag metals within its cage-like structure). When U read the word ACID in the name, it is usually NOT a surfactant but something else, like this case. There are a couple exceptions to this rule but my consulting chemist is falling asleep and can't remember right now (husby). Metals, minerals and metalloids are attracted to chelating agents, the action is not selective, that's why you have to give a child who is undergoing chelation, the supplements suggested (l like Andy Cutler's info) to avoid deficiencies. I find chelate mate from New Beginnings to be an easy option to increase mineral intake while on chelation. It has several of the basics, it is liquid, clear, no taste, no yukies and u will only have to add those who are not present in the formula. U can mix this w water or some juice. If using DMSA to chelate a child, remember to split those 250 mg in correct doses (depending on how much he weights) .... If u start w 250 mg at once, the child can get very ill. BlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:04:51 -0700 (PDT)To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Immune Boosters Isa, is DMSA also a surfectant, something which grabs on to (chelates/breaks up) chemical bonds and allows unhelpful (what if helpful stuff gets washed away with the bad stuff? deficiencies?) stuff to dissolve and be carried away? DMSA, succinic acid derived from 250 mg. DMSA, by Thorne, is one form of oral chelation, used in chelating heavy metals out of the body. Thank you for your helpful and compassionate posts.To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 4:28:08 PMSubject: Re: Re: Immune Boosters Chemically speaking, a surfactanct is a substance which basically is different in every combination but can range from fats to ethers and lauryls, depending on the base. A surfactant is basically a soap.... So look at it as something that will slowly "wash" the inner environment, the cells. If you want to learn more about surfactants and its application in medicine, you can read different studies at www.dmso.org. Dmso is a surfactant that has been used for some time in alternative medicine and a few procedures in allopathic medicine. It is an immune assistant Pls share w us if u have further comments, different individuals reading the same text is a proven technique to not oversee any detailsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:32:15 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Immune Boosters Could someone please explain what a surfectant is and does and why it is important in this battle to be healthy?Thanks so much, in Tx> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone,> > > > I recently started my son on Lutimax and have observed AMAZING results. He started giving his brother kisses the day after we started it and he has been writing short words like Cat and Bat since we started. > > > > I am curious about Immunist, what do the surfactant blends do? I can't find any information about how surfantant blends help your immune system.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Mason> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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