Guest guest Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Hi Fransel,Lysine and Olive Leaf Extract are known to fight herpes virus. You may start to see die off right away and they need to be taken for at least 3 months. When I was in my teens I had cold sores on my lips that would come and go for about 3 years. It would start as a small itch and pain after being in the sun all day. I would use a lip balm with sun screen and it would help keep them from forming. Before I realized this would help my lips ballooned into a mass of blisters, swelling to three times their normal size. Then the blisters would pop and bleed and the pain was excruciating. They just stopped coming back when I was around 30 years old. I realize now that the cold sores were caused by the herpes virus.I have had a rash on my hand for many years, which first appeared after I was rear ended in my car when I was 32. From the accident I suffered a lot of soft tissue damage, which resulted in pain and inflammation throughout my entire body. Shortly thereafter I developed a rash on my left hand, which has been there ever since except for while I was pregnant. It disappeared while I was pregnant and came back after my son was born. It first appeared on my left palm and fingers and then it also appeared on my right palm. The doctor has guessed that it is psoriasis and I have used all sorts of creams prescribed by the doctor and it goes away while I use the creams and then comes back. Recently I came across some pictures of herpes virus rash on a hand and it closely matches the blisters and red dry skin that forms on my hand. It seems the Herpes virus stopped manifesting sores and blisters on my lips and moved to the palm and fingers of my hands instead.When I started taking OLE and Cat's Claw I noticed that the rash went away on my right hand, but persisted on my left hand. In addition to the OLE and Cat's Claw I recently started taking Super Lysine Plus by Quantum Health. Each tablet contains L-lysine 500mg, Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 33mg, Garlic (odorless) 65mg, Echinacea Extract (4:l PE) 33mg, Propolis 15mg, Licorice Extract (4:1 PE) 5mg, Goldenseal Root http://www.quantumhealth.com/productgroups/coldsore.html They also have drops, but I don't like the ingredients they use in the drops. The rash on both hands is almost completely gone. I am waiting for the die off to subside before I increase the amounts I am taking.Although I haven't had viral titers taken for Stan, it is logical to conclude that he was exposed to the virus in utero and also explains some of the results from blood tests he had when he was born and also tests he has had since that time.For Stan I am now also using Cat's Claw from St. Francis. 6 drops in a glass of water first thing in the morning. I'll be ramping it up to 4 drops 3x a day over the next couple of months. Cat's claw is a great anti-inflammatory, helps with yeast, and does many wonderful things. Info can be found at http://www.stfrancisherbfarm.com/product.aspx?ID=83After the glass of water with 6 drops cat's claw first thing in the morning we useAntivirals, anti-inflammatory, antioxidants500mg of Olive Leaf Extract (Natural Factors)500 mg Bromelain (Natural Factors) (anti-inflammatory, helps food digest, and breaks down the fibrin in biofilm)1 tablet super lysine+1/4 tsp turmeric (organic, non irradiated - bought in bulk from Health Food Store)500 mg Resveratrol (by Enzymatica)Methylation and vitamin supplementation1mg MTHF (Folic acid by Thorne)100 mg B61 spray of B12 nasal spray250mg Vitamin C (calcium citrate by Natural Factors)1/2 teaspoon calcium/magnesium1 tsp cod liver oil D (Nordic Naturals)10 drops of vegetable drops (for iodine made by Naka)For mood and anxiety support100mg Griffonia (5 HTP by Thorne)250 mg Tyrosine (New Roots)I try to use caplets which I can open and add to juice. I don't have a tablet crusher, so I put any tablets in a plastic baggie and use my meat pounder to crush the tablet then add all supplements to a 60/40 carrot/apple juice bend. My son is 47 pounds, so if you want to use any of the supplements you may want to work up to a max dosage as listed on the bottle of each supplement based on your son's weight. The dosage on bottles usually refers to a 150 pound person.I think I may have given you this information before, but I'm prettty sure it was before we added the Lysine and Cat's Claw into the mix. I am not a doctor, but in my opinion the Herpes is a huge issue causing inflammation and pain. After experiencing the intense burning pain in my lips and more recently in my hands I realize first hand the need to address the virus with a well rounded set of supplements. I am also taking cod liver oil and many of the other supplements I have in Stan's list of antioxidants, anti-inflammatories, and antivirals. The die off was tough at first, but I feel so much better now and I know Stan feels better too.Some great info about Olive Leaf Extract http://www.herbwisdom.com/herb-olive-leaf.htmlSome really interesting information about the simultaneous presence of retroviruses and herpes viruses can be found here http://www.vaccinetruth.org/herpes_viruses.htmHope you find the above information useful.Hello AnneMy son’s blood test shows herpes virus. How do we know if it is in the brain? He is much calmer today after we did acupuncture and laser sauna. From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of Anne MearsSent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:48 AMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: RE: L Arginine and Rage L – Arginine can stimulate Herpes virus, causing symptoms. If he has herpes virus in the brain, that could be a problem. I can’t supplement with it at all, even with heavy anti-virals on board. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of Fransel WyrzykowskiSent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:21 AMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ; Trying_Low_Oxalates Subject: L Arginine and Rage I started L Arginine at 250mg at dinner. All was fine. Second day I gave same dose or maybe 300 mg this time (I open up a capsule of 750 and divide in 1/3 at dinner again. Then he went for his daily Epsom salt bath. After 30min in bath he started throwing shampoo and other things. When I asked what was wrong he said, " sad". He then got up to throw more things and kick me out of his way. It continued to the living room breaking more stuff, kicking, biting, crying. Three of us held him down for 45 min until he calmed down. Gave him motrin and doubled melatonin dose to 5 mg slow release. Is this from L Arginine? Oxalate dumping? PKU? PANDAS though doc always rules it out including acupuncture VOL testing. Or Lyme? Bacteria?Only thing new is increasing zinc from 80 to 100mg, increased Biotin to 24 mg, stopped calcium citrate, stopped extra Vit C, lowered Vit D3 from 10000 to 5000. If we start antibiotics now it will be hell. I don't know how else to proceed. We are getting acupuncture for detox this morning. Monday we see his Lyme doctor. Maybe ABX with meds? Maybe even a group home until he is more stable? Very painful. I welcome all comments pls. Thank you to all. I know so many of you have been very helpful to me. 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