Re: Lyme Symptoms

[Guest guest]

For me, when I started my journey to recover my children, and myself,

for I was disabling ill as well, I sought out those who had regained

their health and recovered their children, and the number one thing that

stood out was treating for Lyme. Parents would post, " I started

treating my children for Lyme and their autism symptoms started going

away. " And since I had symptoms similar to MS, I was on some MS

forums. I would keep seeing posts like this, " Good-bye folks, turns out

that all these years that I thought I had MS, I have Lyme instead, so

leaving to go to the Lyme forums instead. " These posts were the most

common in relation to reducing autism symptoms and reducing symptoms

seen as MS. So, it finally occurred to me that tickborne infections

were my family's problem. That was years ago.

Anyhow, since then, from my learning, I think that alot of the stimming

we see in autism could really be Bartonella. Bartonella is very easy to

get, and I think that since those with autism have suppressed immune

systems, that the Bartonella lives in them, causing OCD behaviors and

really, stimming, is so close to OCD, since it involves the need to

repeat a behavior over and over, I am not sure they don't have the same

cause. So, yes, Bartonella gets my vote at this time for being one of

the main causes of symptoms in autism. Not saying it's the cause, just

saying it causes a lot of the symptoms seen. I seen a report that the

first person with autism, is actually still alive, and had joint pain as

a child, for which he received treatment for. When he received that

treatment for arthritis (which is often caused by Lyme), many of his

autism symptoms left. As a matter of fact, some call him recovered

because he travels the world, golfing, talks well, etc. In the book,

The Age of Autism, Mercury, Medicine and a Man-made Epidemic, the first

people with autism were tracked down. What came out was that Syphilis

only wreaks havoc upon also toxic exposure, such as mercury. So,

anyhow, since syphilis (considered very similar to Lyme), Lyme,

Bartonella and I believe mycoplasmas are all pleomorphic, and they like

to live in vectors, and infections like Lyme have been deemed to be

associated with heavy metals, we need to realize that such types of

infections can cause the stock-piling of toxins, and immune suppression

and capillary swelling. Toxins, immune suppression, and capillary and

vein swelling (especially through the neck) is being found in autism and

MS. So, what we have here, is not only an alarming increase in autism,

but also other neuro-immune disorders or auto-immune disorders or

neuro-immune-endocrine disorders or just plain chronic conditions with

no widely-accepted " cause nor cure. " Many different docs and scientists

have their input, with different angles or pieces on how the situation

has evolved. It is also thought that these types of pathogens become

more virulent around electrosmog, so the continuing increase of wireless

gadgetry and electrosmog in general, is thought to be a contributing

factor to how and why these pathogens are taking out some, but not all

at this point. But, what I am finding is that Lyme disease is not

easily treated amongst those with immune suppression, and that many on

the Lyme forums are spending years to regain " most of their health, "

some even dying eventually. In the autism community, I am not seeing

reports of children dying except from related issues, like wandering or

epilepsy. Some children with autism, are recovering enough to do

regular school on tickborne infections alone, but many are not. They

also seem to need to rid toxins, and treatments to rebalance their

immune system. I see lots of relapse reports on the forums for autism

and for Lyme, but only if they get another vaccine or go off of all

treatments and eat like others (gluten, MSG, GMO, etc.). Those that

stay on supplements and avoid immune stressors, seem to not relapse.

There is a video I saw on this Internet of " normal girl " who as a young

adult got Lyme. She became so ill, that she stopped talking and pretty

much just made odd noises and rolled around on the floor. After Lyme

treatments, she became normal again. Just saying that it's often

mentioned that Lyme effects speech and concentration, which is what is

seen in autism. But, developing children get more of the developmental

and psych symptoms. Just like getting worms to an adult is usually

considered a nuisance, but worms in a developing child can cause

severely low IQ, amongst other developmental symptoms. So, not sure of

all the pieces, but what I do know is that the autism recovery docs

focus on getting oxygen flow and nutrients to the brain and boosting the

immune system and ridding toxins. They do this by treating for

inflammation, correcting digestion, and various efforts of killing

pathogens, and treating toxins.

Googling key words together, " lyme autism " " lyme MS " " Lyme speech " and

also searching such key words on the YouTube website will overwhelm you

with all the information. Listening to the people describe their

symptoms, findings, recoveries, etc. will likely give you a good

education on what's really going on. You can also Google " naturopath

Lyme " to find some top names. Many love to teach others and give

lectures at Conferences. Feel free to ask more questions.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

I am interested in learning about the autism symptoms associated with

Lyme disease.

Sonya Doherty, ND

Burlington, ON