Re: Cost-effective way to do this?? Re: Re: Info on the new product we've been using

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My friend, brilliant and very precise, talked with Jim Humble by phone and there was talk of MMS even breaking up heavy metals and eliminating whatever was holding them in. Follow the money, and the wealth is in Big Pharma doing anything they can to stamp out anything else.To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 9:58:57 AMSubject: Re: Cost-effective way to do this?? Re: Re: Info on the new product we've been using

I actually watched that guy in an interview on the bleach stuff the designer....and I have to say he is sketchy and really jumped AROUND the issue instead of addressing it and his chemistry knowledge really lacked....I personally would run from that product after watching the interview

From: fightingtbi

Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:45 PM

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Cost-effective way to do this?? Re: Re: Info on the new product we've been using

(the lurker) here.Well, I only pop in now and again to see what you brilliant moms are up to in your fight against tick borne illnesses. I am mainly involved in another Lyme and rife/group since I use a coil machine. That group has had a lot of talk about MMS lately. BTW: the FDA article posted below is a complete distortion of the truth of MMS. Jim Humble, the man who discovered its healing properties, addressed each lie in this article a while back. MMS does NOT turn into bleach, nor does it mix to even a fraction of the strength the article mentions. The FDA is lying about MMS just as much as it lies about everything else. There agenda is simple: Push Pharma. The worst reaction anyone has had from proper dosing of MMS has been an upset stomach and diarrhea.The moderator of the Lyme/rife group just wrote a wonderful article on MMS. I'll see if he wouldn't mind me posting it.MMS claims to cure just about everything - with the exception of Lyme. Just tells you how nasty this bug is. That being said, many Lymies (myself included) are using MMS along with other methods and are achieving good results. I do not believe it is a stand alone therapy.Best regards to all of you! (Hi Thane, if you're here.)PS: not sure what's wrong with my email. Just responded to this from my email account by hitting 'reply' and it told me to directly to Yahoo.? That's never happened before. It's much easier to follow the threads in my gmail account. hmmm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a > > > > > > > > > > > consumer….> > > > > > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the > > > > > > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @ > > > > > > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies > > > > >that > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer > > > > > > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open group format.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new > > > > >level > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last > > > > > > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA). > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our bodies to heal > > > > > > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry > > > > > > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of > > > > > > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with > > > > >the > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas > > > > > > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole > > > > > > > > > > > food.> > > > > > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.> > > > > > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or > > > > > > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & > > > > >do > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/ > > > > > > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option). > > > > > > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a > > > > >small > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boost the vit C)..> > > > > > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a > > > > >Pediatric > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the > > > > > > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. > > > > >said > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on > > > > >surfactants:> > > > > > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant> > > > > > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: > > > > >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant> > > > > > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or > > > > > > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current > > > > > > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset > > > > > > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I > > > > > > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART > > > > > > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year & > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports > > > > > > > > > > > across the board are good.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis > > > > >with > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab > > > > > > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told > > > > >me > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it > > > > >5 > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is > > > > > > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical > > > > > > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a > > > > > > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some > > > > > > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in > > > > >Middle > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & > > > > >only > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning > > > > > > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math > > > > >curriculum… > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come > > > > > > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but > > > > >definitely > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up > > > > > > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially > > > > > > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys > > > > > > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra > > > > > > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular > > > > >support > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a > > > > >Christmas > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3 > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was > > > > > > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft & > > > > > > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our > > > > > > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. > > > > >I > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to > > > > > > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she > > > > > > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it perk right > > > > > > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including > > > > > > > > > > > dogs & horses.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I > > > > > > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off > > > > >list. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is > > > > > > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an > > > > > > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need > > > > >to > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune > > > > > > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product > > > > > > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight > > > > > > > > > > > it's intended fight.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman > > > > > > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing > > > > >real > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out > > > > >what > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they figured out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor > > > > > > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find > > > > > > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer > > > > >needs > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as > > > > >always > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART > > > > >testing > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the > > > > > > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals > > > > > > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review > > > > > > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that > > > > > > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the > > > > > > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited > > > > > > > > > > > about this product!!!> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > http://immusist.com/index.html> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Rita> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >>