Re: vit D

[Guest guest]

That is a lot to take, but your levels have been verified. I find it strange

that a MD would set the toxic level so high. Even when you are prescribed

vit D, the general regimen is to take 50,000 units/day for 2 weeks and then

be rechecked. Most people will be brought up to normal with that dose. I did

that 2 week regimen, but was never rechecked right after. I was checked

about 6 months ago, and was low again (this was about a year after my

initial check that showed I was low and given the Rx vit. D). My PCP said

that I should be able to get into the normal range with a daily dose of

3,000 to 5,000 iu/day. I have been doing this for probably 3-6 months. The

next time I visit my PCP, I will have her recheck to make sure the 5,000/day

has it up to where it should be.

Personally, without knowing ones vit D levels, I would be very hesitant to

take 100,000 iu/day for a week. That is twice the Rx dose. But, that is

just my opinion.

Jenn

>

>

> I need to take 5,000 iu in AM and 5,000 iu in PM od D3 to maintain the

> recommended 50-70 ng/l level. Mine last checked was 53 ng/l. I have been

> doing this for about 3 years now, it must be the gel tabs because your body

> will not digest all of the D3 in tablet or powdered form. Pharmaceutical

> grade is the best. You will not find it at Walmart, Cosco, or your local

> drug store. My doc says you have to take upwards of 200,000 iu per day for a

> long period of time (over 2 weeks) for D3 to become harmful or toxic. The

> general naturalpath rule is 35 iu per body pound per day as a minimum for a

> healthy person to maintain good health. But you need to have a blood test to

> see where you are. I was at 18 ng/l before I started D3 and I got the flu

> every year plus a bad cold about 4-5 times a year usually during the change

> of seasons. I have not had a cold or the flu for past 3 years and I no

> longer believe in the flu vaccination. Lots of references if anyone is

> interested. If I were to prepare for surgery, I would load up about 100,00

> iu per day the week before surgery.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I take 2000 iu a day and my latest blood work shows my Vit D levels are still

below normal. I'm glad to know that a little more might not be detrimental. I

was worried because of it not being one the body flushes out.

Thank you so much for this information, really. I don't often get to really read

the posts here and every time I do, I learn something. I appreciate that a lot.

________________________________

To: tetheredspinalcord

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 12:58:09 AM

Subject: vit D

I need to take 5,000 iu in AM and 5,000 iu in PM od D3 to maintain the

recommended 50-70 ng/l level. Mine last checked was 53 ng/l. I have been doing

this for about 3 years now, it must be the gel tabs because your body will not

digest all of the D3 in tablet or powdered form. Pharmaceutical grade is the

best. You will not find it at Walmart, Cosco, or your local drug store. My doc

says you have to take upwards of 200,000 iu per day for a long period of time

(over 2 weeks) for D3 to become harmful or toxic. The general naturalpath rule

is 35 iu per body pound per day as a minimum for a healthy person to maintain

good health. But you need to have a blood test to see where you are. I was at 18

ng/l before I started D3 and I got the flu every year plus a bad cold about 4-5

times a year usually during the change of seasons. I have not had a cold or the

flu for past 3 years and I no longer believe in the flu vaccination. Lots of

references if anyone is interested. If I were to prepare for surgery, I would

load up about 100,00 iu per day the week before surgery.

--- deeinbc@... wrote:

To: <tetheredspinalcord >

Subject: RE: Post surgery jitters - vit D

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:45:27 -0800

Jenn - yes, you can get too much. From all the research I've done on vit D and

doctors/naturopaths I've talked to, seems you have to take a fair bit of vit D

to get to toxic levels, much more than they used to believe. Ideal dosages do

vary, however -- one person might need just 1,000 iu per day while someone else

5,000 iu per day so if you are taking it on a regular basis it is best to have

your levels monitored -- best tested at the end of the winter when levels are

generally lowest and then again at the end of summer when they are highest. I

personally need 3,000 iu per day during the winter to keep my levels optimal,

have done testing several years in a row to figure out the perfect dosage for

me. At 2,000 iu per day for a month before surgery I do not believe there is

any risk of toxicity.

Dee

> To: tetheredspinalcord

> From: jlbobin@...

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:39:40 -0500

> Subject: Re: Post surgery jitters

>

> Kellie,

>

> Vitamin D is fat soluble, so it is possible to get too much.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When my levels were low I was given a prescription strength by my

physician. This was taken for 6 weeks and that seemed to correct it to a point

that I can maintain on 1200/day .. randee

In a message dated 3/9/2011 4:50:06 A.M. Central Standard Time,

mzw4@... writes:

I take 2000 iu a day and my latest blood work shows my Vit D levels are

still

below normal. I'm glad to know that a little more might not be

detrimental. I

was worried because of it not being one the body flushes out.

Thank you so much for this information, really. I don't often get to

really read

the posts here and every time I do, I learn something. I appreciate that a

lot.

________________________________

From: Rick R <_rick_lists@..._ (mailto:rick_lists@...) >

To: _tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 12:58:09 AM

Subject: vit D

I need to take 5,000 iu in AM and 5,000 iu in PM od D3 to maintain the

recommended 50-70 ng/l level. Mine last checked was 53 ng/l. I have been

doing

this for about 3 years now, it must be the gel tabs because your body will

not

digest all of the D3 in tablet or powdered form. Pharmaceutical grade is

the

best. You will not find it at Walmart, Cosco, or your local drug store. My

doc

says you have to take upwards of 200,000 iu per day for a long period of

time

(over 2 weeks) for D3 to become harmful or toxic. The general naturalpath

rule

is 35 iu per body pound per day as a minimum for a healthy person to

maintain

good health. But you need to have a blood test to see where you are. I was

at 18

ng/l before I started D3 and I got the flu every year plus a bad cold

about 4-5

times a year usually during the change of seasons. I have not had a cold

or the

flu for past 3 years and I no longer believe in the flu vaccination. Lots

of

references if anyone is interested. If I were to prepare for surgery, I

would

load up about 100,00 iu per day the week before surgery.

--- _deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) wrote:

From: Dee Allaert <_deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) >

To: <_tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord ) >

Subject: RE: Post surgery jitters - vit D

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:45:27 -0800

Jenn - yes, you can get too much. From all the research I've done on vit D

and

doctors/naturopaths I've talked to, seems you have to take a fair bit of

vit D

to get to toxic levels, much more than they used to believe. Ideal dosages

do

vary, however -- one person might need just 1,000 iu per day while someone

else

5,000 iu per day so if you are taking it on a regular basis it is best to

have

your levels monitored -- best tested at the end of the winter when levels

are

generally lowest and then again at the end of summer when they are

highest. I

personally need 3,000 iu per day during the winter to keep my levels

optimal,

have done testing several years in a row to figure out the perfect dosage

for

me. At 2,000 iu per day for a month before surgery I do not believe there

is

any risk of toxicity.

Dee

> To: _tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

> From: _jlbobin@..._ (mailto:jlbobin@...)

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:39:40 -0500

> Subject: Re: Post surgery jitters

>

> Kellie,

>

> Vitamin D is fat soluble, so it is possible to get too much.

>

>

>

>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is why testing is so important -- everyone's needs are different --

due to our individuality. climate, lifestyle. I have to say, I am totally

impressed that your regular physicians in the US are testing people for this. I

feel we are lagging behind in Canada -- it is my naturopath who first tested me

years ago -- my family doctor has never brought this up. My integrative medical

specialist, on the other hand, who is an MD does test for this regularly.

I too have just had one wee cold in 3 to 4 years since taking vit D -- I do take

other nutritional supplements as well. I used to get 2-3 colds a year before

that.

Dee

To: tetheredspinalcord

From: Randeejae@...

Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:18:25 -0500

Subject: Re: vit D

When my levels were low I was given a prescription strength by my

physician. This was taken for 6 weeks and that seemed to correct it to a point

that I can maintain on 1200/day .. randee

In a message dated 3/9/2011 4:50:06 A.M. Central Standard Time,

mzw4@... writes:

I take 2000 iu a day and my latest blood work shows my Vit D levels are

still

below normal. I'm glad to know that a little more might not be

detrimental. I

was worried because of it not being one the body flushes out.

Thank you so much for this information, really. I don't often get to

really read

the posts here and every time I do, I learn something. I appreciate that a

lot.

________________________________

From: Rick R <_rick_lists@..._ (mailto:rick_lists@...) >

To: _tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 12:58:09 AM

Subject: vit D

I need to take 5,000 iu in AM and 5,000 iu in PM od D3 to maintain the

recommended 50-70 ng/l level. Mine last checked was 53 ng/l. I have been

doing

this for about 3 years now, it must be the gel tabs because your body will

not

digest all of the D3 in tablet or powdered form. Pharmaceutical grade is

the

best. You will not find it at Walmart, Cosco, or your local drug store. My

doc

says you have to take upwards of 200,000 iu per day for a long period of

time

(over 2 weeks) for D3 to become harmful or toxic. The general naturalpath

rule

is 35 iu per body pound per day as a minimum for a healthy person to

maintain

good health. But you need to have a blood test to see where you are. I was

at 18

ng/l before I started D3 and I got the flu every year plus a bad cold

about 4-5

times a year usually during the change of seasons. I have not had a cold

or the

flu for past 3 years and I no longer believe in the flu vaccination. Lots

of

references if anyone is interested. If I were to prepare for surgery, I

would

load up about 100,00 iu per day the week before surgery.

--- _deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) wrote:

From: Dee Allaert <_deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) >

To: <_tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord ) >

Subject: RE: Post surgery jitters - vit D

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:45:27 -0800

Jenn - yes, you can get too much. From all the research I've done on vit D

and

doctors/naturopaths I've talked to, seems you have to take a fair bit of

vit D

to get to toxic levels, much more than they used to believe. Ideal dosages

do

vary, however -- one person might need just 1,000 iu per day while someone

else

5,000 iu per day so if you are taking it on a regular basis it is best to

have

your levels monitored -- best tested at the end of the winter when levels

are

generally lowest and then again at the end of summer when they are

highest. I

personally need 3,000 iu per day during the winter to keep my levels

optimal,

have done testing several years in a row to figure out the perfect dosage

for

me. At 2,000 iu per day for a month before surgery I do not believe there

is

any risk of toxicity.

Dee

> To: _tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

> From: _jlbobin@..._ (mailto:jlbobin@...)

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:39:40 -0500

> Subject: Re: Post surgery jitters

>

> Kellie,

>

> Vitamin D is fat soluble, so it is possible to get too much.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dee,

I don't know that PCPs regularly test vit. D in the US. I know in my case,

the reason I was tested was trying to find the cause for my fever, rash and

fatigue. She tested everything. We also found my K+ was low. I have been

taking the max Rx dose for years now and it is still low. Can't seem to

figure out why my vit. levels seem to be so low even with Rx

supplementation. Just another medical mystery we can't seem to find answers

to.

Jenn

>

> Yes, this is why testing is so important -- everyone's needs are different

> -- due to our individuality. climate, lifestyle. I have to say, I am

> totally impressed that your regular physicians in the US are testing people

> for this. I feel we are lagging behind in Canada -- it is my naturopath who

> first tested me years ago -- my family doctor has never brought this up. My

> integrative medical specialist, on the other hand, who is an MD does test

> for this regularly.

>

> I too have just had one wee cold in 3 to 4 years since taking vit D -- I do

> take other nutritional supplements as well. I used to get 2-3 colds a year

> before that.

>

> Dee

>

>

>

>

> To: tetheredspinalcord

> From: Randeejae@...

> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:18:25 -0500

> Subject: Re: vit D

>

>

>

>

>

>

> When my levels were low I was given a prescription strength by my

> physician. This was taken for 6 weeks and that seemed to correct it to a

> point

> that I can maintain on 1200/day .. randee

>

>

> In a message dated 3/9/2011 4:50:06 A.M. Central Standard Time,

> mzw4@... writes:

>

> I take 2000 iu a day and my latest blood work shows my Vit D levels are

> still

> below normal. I'm glad to know that a little more might not be

> detrimental. I

> was worried because of it not being one the body flushes out.

>

> Thank you so much for this information, really. I don't often get to

> really read

> the posts here and every time I do, I learn something. I appreciate that a

> lot.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Rick R <_rick_lists@..._ (mailto:rick_lists@...) >

> To: _tetheredspinalcord _

> (mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

> Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 12:58:09 AM

> Subject: vit D

>

> I need to take 5,000 iu in AM and 5,000 iu in PM od D3 to maintain the

> recommended 50-70 ng/l level. Mine last checked was 53 ng/l. I have been

> doing

> this for about 3 years now, it must be the gel tabs because your body will

> not

> digest all of the D3 in tablet or powdered form. Pharmaceutical grade is

> the

> best. You will not find it at Walmart, Cosco, or your local drug store. My

> doc

> says you have to take upwards of 200,000 iu per day for a long period of

> time

> (over 2 weeks) for D3 to become harmful or toxic. The general naturalpath

> rule

> is 35 iu per body pound per day as a minimum for a healthy person to

> maintain

> good health. But you need to have a blood test to see where you are. I was

> at 18

> ng/l before I started D3 and I got the flu every year plus a bad cold

> about 4-5

> times a year usually during the change of seasons. I have not had a cold

> or the

> flu for past 3 years and I no longer believe in the flu vaccination. Lots

> of

> references if anyone is interested. If I were to prepare for surgery, I

> would

> load up about 100,00 iu per day the week before surgery.

>

> --- _deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) wrote:

>

> From: Dee Allaert <_deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) >

> To: <_tetheredspinalcord _

> (mailto:tetheredspinalcord ) >

> Subject: RE: Post surgery jitters - vit D

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:45:27 -0800

>

> Jenn - yes, you can get too much. From all the research I've done on vit D

> and

> doctors/naturopaths I've talked to, seems you have to take a fair bit of

> vit D

> to get to toxic levels, much more than they used to believe. Ideal dosages

> do

> vary, however -- one person might need just 1,000 iu per day while someone

> else

> 5,000 iu per day so if you are taking it on a regular basis it is best to

> have

> your levels monitored -- best tested at the end of the winter when levels

> are

> generally lowest and then again at the end of summer when they are

> highest. I

> personally need 3,000 iu per day during the winter to keep my levels

> optimal,

> have done testing several years in a row to figure out the perfect dosage

> for

> me. At 2,000 iu per day for a month before surgery I do not believe there

> is

> any risk of toxicity.

>

> Dee

>

> > To: _tetheredspinalcord _

> (mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

> > From: _jlbobin@..._ (mailto:jlbobin@...)

> > Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:39:40 -0500

> > Subject: Re: Post surgery jitters

> >

> > Kellie,

> >

> > Vitamin D is fat soluble, so it is possible to get too much.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

On the vit. D subject - I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that my blood test

showed I was very low and was placed on prescription, once weekly dosage (gel

caps). I had surgery last week on my left foot ... tendon transfer on big toe,

release on small toe and pins in four toes.

He tried to place a screw in my big toe to fuse, but my bone was too soft

(assuming from lack of Vit D because I've always had great bone integrity). I

won't have my other foot done until a bone scan shows that bones have gotten

stronger. Poor surgeon tried twice to get a screw to stay and my bones were

just too soft - bones looked great on x-ray, but I know a bone scan will show

more than an x-ray.

My reg. doctor did a blood test because I've been exhausted and fortunately, she

didn't just rack it up to the meds I take or pain. However, from what I've

read, pain can cause a low vit D level - not sure why/how - but there are many

illnesses that will cause low Vit. D levels and a need for a supplement.

Just a reminder as others have been saying that we need to be mindful that not

all symptoms are directly related to pain/meds.

Kathy

Re: Post surgery jitters

> >

> > Kellie,

> >

> > Vitamin D is fat soluble, so it is possible to get too much.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting! I have never had my D tested but my K runs low too. Wonder if its

something in the neural tube defect or in how it affects our kidneys or

something? 

>

> From: Dee Allaert <_deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) >

> To: <_tetheredspinalcord _

> (mailto:tetheredspinalcord ) >

> Subject: RE: Post surgery jitters - vit D

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:45:27 -0800

>

> Jenn - yes, you can get too much. From all the research I've done on vit D

> and

> doctors/naturopaths I've talked to, seems you have to take a fair bit of

> vit D

> to get to toxic levels, much more than they used to believe. Ideal dosages

> do

> vary, however -- one person might need just 1,000 iu per day while someone

> else

> 5,000 iu per day so if you are taking it on a regular basis it is best to

> have

> your levels monitored -- best tested at the end of the winter when levels

> are

> generally lowest and then again at the end of summer when they are

> highest. I

> personally need 3,000 iu per day during the winter to keep my levels

> optimal,

> have done testing several years in a row to figure out the perfect dosage

> for

> me. At 2,000 iu per day for a month before surgery I do not believe there

> is

> any risk of toxicity.

>

> Dee

>

> > To: _tetheredspinalcord _

> (mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

> > From: _jlbobin@..._ (mailto:jlbobin@...)

> > Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:39:40 -0500

> > Subject: Re: Post surgery jitters

> >

> > Kellie,

> >

> > Vitamin D is fat soluble, so it is possible to get too much.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I don't know. I've always wondered if perhaps there was something wrong

that I was either not absorbing or utilizing my vitamins and minerals

correctly, but not tied to NTD.

One explanation that researchers are looking into heavily with regard to the

cause of NTDs is the existence of a defect that interferes with the woman's

ability to use/absorb folic acid. Flooding the woman's system with folic

acid is somehow able to overcome a threshold and helps prevent NTDs.

Perhaps this defect is the or part of the genetic component of NTDs.

Although it has not yet been proven, if we assume that this is true, perhaps

this defect that prevents women from absorbing/using folic acid properly, it

may also interfere with the absorption/use of other vitamins. That would

tie it to NTDs. Would be interesting to see if low vitamin/mineral levels

were common among people with NTDs. Sounds like a great research study to

me!

Jenn

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:22 PM, wrote:

>

>

> Interesting! I have never had my D tested but my K runs low too. Wonder if

> its something in the neural tube defect or in how it affects our kidneys or

> something?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dee Allaert said the following on 3/9/2011 9:47 AM:

> Yes, this is why testing is so important -- everyone's needs are different --

due to our individuality. climate, lifestyle. I have to say, I am totally

impressed that your regular physicians in the US are testing people for this. I

feel we are lagging behind in Canada -- it is my naturopath who first tested me

years ago -- my family doctor has never brought this up. My integrative medical

specialist, on the other hand, who is an MD does test for this regularly.

>

Hi Dee,

I do not think most regular physicians in US are interested in Vit D or

any supplements. So far I can only get a blood test through my primary

care physician, MD. I had to ask, then I had to explain, then I had to

beg. Then I got them!. He admitted he was 'not up to date' on that

stuff but was not really negative about it. I now have a new " Internal "

MD, what ever they are. He is very " up to date " and approves what I am

doing with supplements., even suggested I up my CO Q10 to 300 mg/day. I

think it will be up to the patient (us) to press the issue to our

doctors. And try to find a certified naturopath.

Rick

[Guest guest]

Dee,

 

I bought Calcium with D which says it has 400 IU. I also take a multi vitamin

that has 400 IU.

From: Dee Allaert <_deeinbc@..._ (mailto:deeinbc@...) >

To: <_tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord ) >

Subject: RE: Post surgery jitters - vit D

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:45:27 -0800

Jenn - yes, you can get too much. From all the research I've done on vit D

and

doctors/naturopaths I've talked to, seems you have to take a fair bit of

vit D

to get to toxic levels, much more than they used to believe. Ideal dosages

do

vary, however -- one person might need just 1,000 iu per day while someone

else

5,000 iu per day so if you are taking it on a regular basis it is best to

have

your levels monitored -- best tested at the end of the winter when levels

are

generally lowest and then again at the end of summer when they are

highest. I

personally need 3,000 iu per day during the winter to keep my levels

optimal,

have done testing several years in a row to figure out the perfect dosage

for

me. At 2,000 iu per day for a month before surgery I do not believe there

is

any risk of toxicity.

Dee

> To: _tetheredspinalcord _

(mailto:tetheredspinalcord )

> From: _jlbobin@..._ (mailto:jlbobin@...)

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:39:40 -0500

> Subject: Re: Post surgery jitters

>

> Kellie,

>

> Vitamin D is fat soluble, so it is possible to get too much.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Before spending any cash on a 'naturopath' you might want to check out this

evidence-based website: http://www.naturowatch.org/

You can then decide whether it has an evidence base that justifies basing

decisions about your health on.

>

>

> Dee Allaert said the following on 3/9/2011 9:47 AM:

>

> > Yes, this is why testing is so important -- everyone's needs are

> different -- due to our individuality. climate, lifestyle. I have to say, I

> am totally impressed that your regular physicians in the US are testing

> people for this. I feel we are lagging behind in Canada -- it is my

> naturopath who first tested me years ago -- my family doctor has never

> brought this up. My integrative medical specialist, on the other hand, who

> is an MD does test for this regularly.

> >

> Hi Dee,

>

> I do not think most regular physicians in US are interested in Vit D or

> any supplements. So far I can only get a blood test through my primary

> care physician, MD. I had to ask, then I had to explain, then I had to

> beg. Then I got them!. He admitted he was 'not up to date' on that

> stuff but was not really negative about it. I now have a new " Internal "

> MD, what ever they are. He is very " up to date " and approves what I am

> doing with supplements., even suggested I up my CO Q10 to 300 mg/day. I

> think it will be up to the patient (us) to press the issue to our

> doctors. And try to find a certified naturopath.

>

> Rick

>

>

>

--