Re: school case manager needs diagnosis from doc for services in kinder

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Where I live, revealing the diagnosis is best because the teachers here

are so very strict that it's very difficult for me to not home-school.

They will let kids cry tears before allowing them to go to the bathroom

and then still not, and accuse kids of lying when they say they don't

understand their work, etc. When kids are labeled special needs, they

are then much more likely to be allowed to go to the bathroom as needed,

and the teachers are much more likely to talk to them about their

schoolwork when they ask questions. So, for my kids, it's

advantageous. Since my kids are basically recovered with just

break-through symptoms here and there, I don't have to use the special

needs card unless they have a " heartless " teacher, which happens from

time to time. Not to talk bad about teachers, some are extremely

caring. It's just that those who are not, don't seem to be reprimanded

where I live, and allowed to continue with their " anti-kid " behaviors.

I think it's best for kids to be categorized as special needs. There

are situations where parents have complained that teachers don't help

their kids learn because they feel the kids are not capable of learning

as well as others, but I still recommend categorizing as special needs,

at least where I live.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

My case manager wants the diagnosis from doc for services in kindergarden.

Is this normal. My son just turned 4.

May I know the pros and cons of revealing the diagnosis?

4 yrs old ASD ...

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For us, the neurologist (that I disliked the most but he only cost a co-pay) give an autism dx to get services/placement and include rx for therapies...ie: kid needs ABA program with extensive speech therapry,3 to 5x/wk and OT 3 to 4x/wk.

This was key in getting speech and OT as our case manager was a jerk and said "related services" were not part of the " ABA model" when we came out of an early intervention program that was entirely PT, OT, DI and speech (when available). Meanwhile, 95% of the kids received those services at school and it was a stupid fight, but the letter from the neurologist secured the services easily.

A nitwit in-network will provide this as they don't have time/interest to evaluate the causes or biomedical interventions that will help heal our kids. It's good to have in your back pocket especially if you have a hostile school district that does not want to provide adequate services or is unequipped to do so. You might also want to ask the doc to list any schools/therapy centers (for OT/speech) that might be appropriate if your child needs a private placement as many school districts are strapped for cash and will try to keep kids in district even when they cannot meet their needs.

HTH,

lisa

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My understanding is that a child can go without a diagnosis until the age of 6, when they have to have a specific label. Usually they just get services under the Developmental Delay label. The school needs to do a full evaluation ( you can request this) and then those assessments decide what interventions and accommodations the child receives in school. You do not, at this time, have to have an outside diagnosis unless you want to or unless you disagree with their recommendations. At that point you can request on outside evaluation which the school must pay for.I think there can be negatives to using a label, depending on your child and his/her needs. We used developmental delay until age 6 and then we did not pursue a label for my son because i felt it would be more limiting than helpful. We did get recommendations for school accommodations from his OT, and explained that he had sensory issues and visual processing ones, as well. These are things the school systems typically do not handle well, anyway, so that was the approach we took. The school was happy to accommodate based on the OT's recommendations and this has worked well for us. At age four, I don't see any benefit for using a label other than developmental delay, because the assessment drives services. So, I could be wrong, or it could differ from state to state, but that is my understanding.RuthWhere I live, revealing the diagnosis is best because the teachers here are so very strict that it's very difficult for me to not home-school. They will let kids cry tears before allowing them to go to the bathroom and then still not, and accuse kids of lying when they say they don't understand their work, etc. When kids are labeled special needs, they are then much more likely to be allowed to go to the bathroom as needed, and the teachers are much more likely to talk to them about their schoolwork when they ask questions. So, for my kids, it's advantageous. Since my kids are basically recovered with just break-through symptoms here and there, I don't have to use the special needs card unless they have a "heartless" teacher, which happens from time to time. Not to talk bad about teachers, some are extremely caring. It's just that those who are not, don't seem to be reprimanded where I live, and allowed to continue with their "anti-kid" behaviors. I think it's best for kids to be categorized as special needs. There are situations where parents have complained that teachers don't help their kids learn because they feel the kids are not capable of learning as well as others, but I still recommend categorizing as special needs, at least where I live.Love and prayers,Heidi NMy case manager wants the diagnosis from doc for services in kindergarden.Is this normal. My son just turned 4.May I know the pros and cons of revealing the diagnosis?4 yrs old ASD ...